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[wannawin]

my opinion is this looks like a mess.
Steve Hourmouzis is cleared despite looking to defraud honest people simply by saying openly that his intention is to defraud selling systems .

I thought Stef was honest and high quality staff until I saw the methods which is capable of using . I do not want to deal with the kind of person that justifies it so I retreat.

But I do not approve of things there were on the messages. At other times if we had heard that you are unemployed, and that your wife and son are in a delicate situation , I ensure we would have extended help immediately.

please be sure I hate the fact that you have been stripped of your family's privacy in violation by Stef . Stef was a hero to some people hailed for having stripped your personal situation in public (I do not want to deal with such people either ) .

now we have on one hand a confessed swindler forum (Steve ) . A forum full of people capable of anything ( Stef ) and you.

what can we expect from you ?? You will stop offering the sections? clearly others have made a decision, but others like me do not have yet made it. We can always do more and more new forums but it is not the solution , we can guess you realized now for what happened with Stef, A Known Devil is better.

all the forum staff can respond to closed threads . please leave it closed to avoid a flea market bickering . I want answers that will help me determine if I am still here .

[VLS]

please be sure I hate the fact that you have been stripped of your family's privacy in violation by Stef

Hey! Thanks to you and all the other fellow members who have showed their support by PM/email. The “wait and see” mode is completely understandable and I bear no resent for not going open with it. I won't retaliate. I'm sure this is nothing but another “bump” down the road.

You will stop offering the sections?

I still subscribe to the sponsorship model. A $10/mo subscription on top of the free forum and free materials is what we are adopting.

what can we expect from you ??

(Answering here as “you, the person”)

To do my best, I see this time as a wonderful opportunity to realize my on-line potential. A well-oiled work flow where I'm having a predictable income for my family's benefit and tranquility while allowing me full creative freedom is an awesome goal plus on the side of course give my code in the open so others can learn, fork it and ultimately to benefit all.

As a forum, well; members who find our forum's rules “limiting to their expressions” can expect the very same moderation.

...Whoever finds it fine to work within our forum's standards and rules, is welcome. Our doors remain open.