Quote from: Xander on May 25, 2018, 01:55:42 AM
Ten reds in a row is meaningless.  It's no more relevant than a bear pattern in the clouds.  I don't know why you're enamored with it.

Money! I want free money. I want money that comes from my acquired skill where there are people like yourself that say it is impossible, like without an edge. Money earned in this way is far better than being paid as some functionary. And it's bragging money too. It can be earned in 5 minutes or more likely under 2 hours. It's not a comp gathering game either.


I'm so fascinated by the world you see around you. You have an edge. You claim that there can't be any kind of edge in guessing. You won't even acknowledge that there is such a thing as a streak of reds. That it's some kind of meaningless cloud formation that needs to be ignored. How can you be an expert at using it if you can't see an edge in it?


Try this logic. I proposed it at least a decade ago to the mathBoyz: If you see a meaningless pattern occurring, can you use it as if it means something, even though we all know that it is meaningless? Can anyone pretend that it has a beginning, a middle, and an ending? If it has no meaning, can it be used to give you a meaningless temporary edge?


Now, I'm still waiting for the mathBoyz to respond. They all chickened out. Perhaps you will not. I know what to do with 22 black numbers in a row. You apparently don't. We all know that the color of a slot on a Roulette wheel is symbolic only. We also know that the table layout is not a real representation of locations on the wheel. But the only thing that matters is that the casino will not just take money laid on the table. They will also give money even if you have a meaningless experience. I like that too. You have raised my conscientiousness a degree. It makes making money off a casino even more rewarding that it is meaningless and without an edge. Yep, I really like that.

Mike: "Are you betting a roughly equal mix of banker/player?"  I don't keep track of that but my guess is yes.

Quote from: Jimske on May 25, 2018, 12:11:18 PM
Of course.  I always expect to return to the law of large numbers.

What is it that you expect the law of large numbers to do for you?

Quote from: Xander on May 25, 2018, 02:27:07 PM
What is it that you expect the law of large numbers to do for you?

Expecting the effect of "law of large numbers" is just an expectation, if it wasn't then variance wouldn't be unpredictable.
If we really knew that as a fact and not as an expectation then we could create a long term money management which would generate profit as the results will get closer to the mean expectation.
So by using more results rather than a few would we guaranteed that the results would always conform to the theoretical mean?!
What forces and obligates variance to act so?! NOTHING!

Quote from: Blue_Angel on May 25, 2018, 05:21:29 PM

Expecting the effect of "law of large numbers" is just an expectation, if it wasn't then variance wouldn't be unpredictable.
If we really knew that as a fact and not as an expectation then we could create a long term money management which would generate profit as the results will get closer to the mean expectation.
So by using more results rather than a few would we guaranteed that the results would always conform to the theoretical mean?!
What forces and obligates variance to act so?! NOTHING!

LOL.  Thanks.  Now I don't have to bother with this question.

A shrewd old cat told me that the only pure mechanical style that would win well and regular over the long run is the anti-streaks style. I tested his style bucking up against 1175 live baccarats shoe on the party poker live casino and managed to capture just over two units per shoe profits so maybe he is right, hey hey.

The math doesn't lie, but gambler's sometimes do. 

Quote from: Xander on May 26, 2018, 10:31:47 PM
The math doesn't lie, but gambler's sometimes do. 

So, yer sayin that 1175 shoe constitutes the "long run", hey hey?

Quote from: soxfan on May 26, 2018, 10:19:50 PM
A shrewd old cat told me that the only pure mechanical style that would win well and regular over the long run is the anti-streaks style. I tested his style bucking up against 1175 live baccarats shoe on the party poker live casino and managed to capture just over two units per shoe profits so maybe he is right, hey hey.

He is absolutely right thanks to long term baccarat findings:

1- differently to roulette outcomes, itlr baccarat results will produce a far less amount of long streaks than singles or doubles or triples.

2- it's a proven fact that any bac hand will feature a slight propensity to get the opposite hand just occurred (M. Shackleford and some others)

Now, only a fool would think that applying this strategy every shoe will provide profitable situations no matter what.

S.hit happens rarely or in clusters.

as.



   

Quote from: soxfan on May 26, 2018, 10:37:56 PM
So, yer sayin that 1175 shoe constitutes the "long run", hey hey?

No that's not the long run, but it's more statistically relevant than just a hundred!

Quote from: Xander on May 27, 2018, 12:18:11 AM
No that's not the long run, but it's more statistically relevant than just a hundred!

Well, 1100 shoe is equal to about a year worth of fulltime play for me so I would say that is fairly significant. And, while testing this style on two occasion I got clipped for drawdown of around 530 unit so ya gotta have the balls and bankroll to see it through. That's why most cats lose cuz they lacking either of those attribute, hey hey.

Quote from: soxfan on May 26, 2018, 10:19:50 PM
A shrewd old cat told me that the only pure mechanical style that would win well and regular over the long run is the anti-streaks style. I tested his style bucking up against 1175 live baccarats shoe on the party poker live casino and managed to capture just over two units per shoe profits so maybe he is right, hey hey.

By anti-streak you mean that you begin by betting opposite of the last, if it loses you stop and wait for another 2 streak to bet against going to 3 in a row, if you lose you stop and wait for another 3 streak to bet against going to 4 in a row, if you lose you stop and wait for another 4 streak to bet against going to 5 in a row, if you lose you stop and wait for another 5 streak to bet against going to 6 in a row, if you lose you stop and wait for another 6 streak to bet against going to 7 in a row, if you lose you stop and wait for another 7 streak to bet against going to 8 in a row, if you lose you stop and wait for another 8 streak to bet against going to 9 in a row, if you lose you stop and wait for another 9 streak to bet against going to 10 in a row, if you lose your bankroll is being busted effectively!
If you don't Martingale then you could stay to the level of streak which you won last time till you get ahead (new BR high).


Is this what you call anti-streak??

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on May 26, 2018, 11:34:41 PM
He is absolutely right thanks to long term baccarat findings:

1- differently to roulette outcomes, itlr baccarat results will produce a far less amount of long streaks than singles or doubles or triples.

2- it's a proven fact that any bac hand will feature a slight propensity to get the opposite hand just occurred (M. Shackleford and some others)

Now, only a fool would think that applying this strategy every shoe will provide profitable situations no matter what.

S.hit happens rarely or in clusters.

as.

ASYM,  strong or weak, Streakinv or Antistreak, whatever you want to call it, either way is a strategy either way is playing to match what the presentments are, it doesn't matter it just depends on your vision, frame of mind,  that's what I've been trying to express in my numerous detailed threads. Some people call it streaks and some people call it anti streaks, it's a description but either way is very viable and either way is very winnable as well it's very losable.

But do one thing all the time and nothing is more guaranteed to lose than just that.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on May 27, 2018, 07:23:00 PM

By anti-streak you mean that you begin by betting opposite of the last, if it loses you stop and wait for another 2 streak to bet against going to 3 in a row, if you lose you stop and wait for another 3 streak to bet against going to 4 in a row, if you lose you stop and wait for another 4 streak to bet against going to 5 in a row, if you lose you stop and wait for another 5 streak to bet against going to 6 in a row, if you lose you stop and wait for another 6 streak to bet against going to 7 in a row, if you lose you stop and wait for another 7 streak to bet against going to 8 in a row, if you lose you stop and wait for another 8 streak to bet against going to 9 in a row, if you lose you stop and wait for another 9 streak to bet against going to 10 in a row, if you lose your bankroll is being busted effectively!
If you don't Martingale then you could stay to the level of streak which you won last time till you get ahead (new BR high).


Is this what you call anti-streak??

The oldtimer asked me not to reveal his style specific sufficient to sat hey makes cake on 1s 2s 3s 4s streak and gets clipped on streak of 5+. He also has a way to "qualify" a shoe by identifying a certain "event" in first half of shoe and if it pops then he comes over the top betting large units in second half of the shoe, hey hey.

Quote from: soxfan on May 28, 2018, 12:50:21 AM
The oldtimer asked me not to reveal his style specific sufficient to sat hey makes cake on 1s 2s 3s 4s streak and gets clipped on streak of 5+. He also has a way to "qualify" a shoe by identifying a certain "event" in first half of shoe and if it pops then he comes over the top betting large units in second half of the shoe, hey hey.

"For a certain event..."
For example first 30 or so hands had a 5+ streak so he doesn't bet the anti-streak but instead let it ride for 5 times in a row in the 2nd half.
If 5 streak didn't occur during first half then goes for the  anti-streak beats.


Right?