The truth is that the idea of ​​paying for system tester programs is not very attractive. There are simply too many systems. I wonder what free system testers are already out there on the internet.

Has anyone collected those links? Then maybe they can be posted here in this thread?

Thank you.

Please only add trust-able programs.

When I look for free roulette programs online many want money or are a scam like this: logiciel-roulette.net/free-roulette-beater-software-1/

QuoteStep 1: Register to an online Casino

Register in the following Casino: Duel 5 casino
We've chosen this casino because its farely recent and the algorithm used for gaming is not as advanced as in other bigger online Casinos.

Step 2: Open the Roulette on Demo Mode

Go to Table Games then select the Roulette
Then, you will have the choose between « Table 1 », « Table 2 » and « DEMO ». You may choose the mode DEMO waiting to master the software to see its effectiveness.

Step 3: Use the free roulette software

Unfortunately I am not able to find not many resources and programs of quality for roulette at no cost.

It would be good to find those that can be used with confidence.

QuoteUnfortunately I am not able to find not many resources and programs of quality for roulette at no cost

RX is going to be the cheapest way for YOU to do all your own testing, I can't see anyone (coder/programer) outhere spending many months developing something and offering it totally free, I wouldn't, especially if it is able to be programmed to do anything you want it to.

QuoteThe truth is that the idea of ​​paying for system tester programs is not very attractive

Agreed but there are guys like me that offer tester bots at very reasonable prices, you should remember 2 things, 1) it gives you a full clear idea if the system is going to work which will save you money testing it for real 2) it saves you the time of hand testing and/or learning to code yourself.

What exactly would you want/expect for a "system tester" as you call it

The Staking Machine is specifically for sports betting, but it incorporates a lot of staking plans and so could be used together with the built in RNG to test some MM strategies. It's not free, but the trial version lets you use the RNG to generate up to 4000 bets at a time:

QuoteNote: The trial version is restricted to using a maximum of 10 bets at any one time. To put more than 10 bets into the software at any one time please purchase the software. However please note that you can use the random data generator to load up to 4000 bets. This will allow you to see first hand how powerful this software is.

Obviously, no good for testing bet selections, but it might be fun to play around with the various staking plans.

Quote from: Superman on November 22, 2012, 09:04:21 AM
RX is going to be the cheapest way for YOU to do all your own testing, I can't see anyone (coder/programer) outhere spending many months developing something and offering it totally free, I wouldn't, especially if it is able to be programmed to do anything you want it to.

Right. It's just that in other areas of life there are people who give away their work. Why not casino gambling?
 

Quote from: Superman on November 22, 2012, 09:04:21 AM2) it saves you the time of hand testing and/or learning to code yourself.

I would like to learn to program. Hail to the people who do it because I find it especially difficult to do anything more than a silly program text.

Basically I'm a fool or, or programming languages ​​are not designed for people like me. I have no intentions of making a career in computer science, so learning a complex language is beyond my intentions.

I have not found one for me yet. The closest has been Basic256 www.basic256.org and it is not particularly able to do a normal program for windows.

Quote from: Superman on November 22, 2012, 09:04:21 AMWhat exactly would you want/expect for a "system tester" as you call it

A system tester must have the functionality to take a directory with numbers and try them one by one. Or a large file with more than 1,000,000 sets.

You must have a balance chart. You should be able to save this data easily.

A systems tester should assist the player to determine the feasibility of establishing a betting system to become eligible for real money bets.

Many thanks.

Quote from: Bayes on November 23, 2012, 09:43:49 AM
The Staking Machine is specifically for sports betting, but it incorporates a lot of staking plans and so could be used together with the built in RNG to test some MM strategies. It's not free, but the trial version lets you use the RNG to generate up to 4000 bets at a time:
Obviously, no good for testing bet selections, but it might be fun to play around with the various staking plans.

Maybe something can be derived from extrapolating sports betting systems to casino games.

I know there are people who extrapolates stock market skills to them.

Thank you.

QuoteA systems tester should assist the player to determine the feasibility of establishing a betting system to become eligible for real money bets.

As I thought BUT how do you expect to put the system in it? you could easily have a couple of straight forward systems pre programmed but think for yourself, there's some failry complex methods on these boards they would need coding into the software for the user to use, I probably have well over 1000 different methods on my pc which I have coded over the years, I have often looked at "trying" to combine the different functions, many of which can and do get reused but having a point and click type setup is a lot of work, trying to cover every eventuallity for tracking in itself is a mamoth task, imagine the first few questions the software must ask you.

track what? ec, dozens, columns, splits, quads, streets, lines, numbers

very complicated mate

A programming language is the most flexible tool, but for the non-programmer something analogous to this online software for finding winning horse-racing systems.

So you could have a database of spins and a lot of check boxes which would let you select the type of bet (EC, dozens, streets etc) then more boxes to select the type of system together with the associated logic. e.g. : bet after X spins which included/didn't include pattern Y, bet for Z spins until condition C occurred/didn't occur, bet after a certain Standard deviation, boxes for progressions  etc etc.

Then the program would run through the database using all the triggers/MM you selected. If the results were positive you could then use another spin file to check that the results were still positive.

It would take a lot of coding though.

Quote from: wannawin on November 23, 2012, 11:57:03 AM
I have not found one for me yet. The closest has been Basic256 www.basic256.org and it is not particularly able to do a normal program for windows.

This is actually quite a nifty little version of BASIC. Databases, networking, graphics, it's all there. I wouldn't worry about creating fancy GUI programs, you don't need that for testing systems.

I agree that programming can be a steep learning curve for the newbie. What is it you find most difficult? The problem is that most beginners want to run before they can walk, if you play around with simple programs at first it should get easier after a while.

The programming language is often not hard to learn. The way to tanslate anything  into the code is the harder part, any can do that, can fast use any programming language.  Put everthing apart in smaller steps is the way to start, then put it all together.
Start with so simple thing which sounds very easy, like very simple additions, count the letters in a word, give value to a variable.
The reason I chose javascript to my bot, is it can be coded in many ways and levels, from "spagetti" code to pure OOP. For a program to test roulette it does not matter if the code is elegant, the main  thing it is works and gives right output.


A language with a larger  class lib is also a good choise, as the "ready made" is well tested, and we do not need to invent the wheel once again.

Thanks for your valuable advice.

You'll find this helpful.

A lot of test modules here -- and it's FREE:  http://www.loothog.com/ 

Quote from: esoito on November 25, 2012, 04:08:52 AM
You'll find this helpful.

A lot of test modules here -- and it's FREE:  http://www.loothog.com/ 

Thank you. It really surprised me there are so few sites to realize that good casino gambling testers attract many people who can be exposed to advertising to generate revenue.

Quote from: wannawin on November 23, 2012, 12:01:47 PM
Maybe something can be derived from extrapolating sports betting systems to casino games.

I know there are people who extrapolates stock market skills to them.

With that in mind, there's some free software here which is designed to build and test Forex systems.

The data files are text files in this format.

Now since the program doesn't know or care what the data actually is in the files (as long as the format is correct), I could write a program which will convert any spin file to a roulette bet. That way, all the indicators and logic rules in the software could be used to test not forex systems, but roulette systems!

Here's an example of some data in the correct format which could be generated from a spin file (final column) in R/B (any other bet could be used).

The "open", "high", "low" and "close" prices would all be replaced by a number which indicates a R or B. The code is that each R increases the "price" by 1 and each B decreases the "price" by 1. Note that the values in each row are the same because the concept of "open", "high" etc don't apply to roulette, but the program will just plot the data anyway, so a rise in "price" corresponds to Red and a decline in "price" corresponds to a Black (and the same scheme could be used for any other bet on the table).

Now the problem is that to actually play any system which uses the indicators, you would need a separate program which gives you them in real time. But it might be fun to play around with this. I haven't actually tried it yet, but if anyone's interested I'll write a program to generate the data files.

2008-05-19   19:00   0.0001   0.0001   0.0001   0.0001   43  R
2008-05-19   19:15   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000   43    B
2008-05-19   19:30   0.0001   0.0001   0.0001   0.0001   47  R
2008-05-19   19:45   0.0002   0.0002   0.0002   0.0002   56  R
2008-05-19   20:00   0.0003   0.0003   0.0003   0.0003   39  R
2008-05-19   20:15   0.0002   0.0002   0.0002   0.0002   39    B

It looks pretty interesting!

I hope you get to something good.

Greetings.