Dear Forum,

Straight to the point:

Find something that is certain and not random in roulette.

Random = not in control

If I can find certainty, I can control and manage the risk.

I don't have a system nor a bet.

I am amazed when I heard of the pigeonhole theory.

A repeat will 100% happen (certainty) in x spin (certainty)

But I have yet to find a way to utilize this certainty to my advantage. 

Hope this can spark something.

If not, we leave it as another not working idea.


Regards,

NoBody ^.^

NoBody ^.^

My opinion:  Nothing is certain.  We are like a ship and the numbers coming are the wind.   When we go with the wind, we win.  The trick is to determine which way the wind is blowing and go with it.

Simple to say; beastly difficult to do!

Sam

Roulette is a game of randomness, chaos or uncertainty. Theoretically, there is no certainty. Any number or set of numbers may appear or not appear for any stretch of time. In a real casino, I have personally experienced a number did not appear in 600+ spins.
  There are a few things which are practically certain, in long run:
1. Law of third
2. All numbers come near their break even point
3. Flat bet loses (mainly due to house edge)
4. Those who wants to use any negative progression clearly go beyond table limit
       and many more things are practically certain.
The real issue is to utilize them for your gain.

@ Nobody,
your post reminded of something from years ago... But I have since forgotten what "X" was equal to....


It went something like 1 of the most recent 6 spins were going to repeat if they had not in "X" number of spins.


Perhaps it was 20 or 21 ?


Regards,
Arick

QuoteIt went something like 1 of the most recent 6 spins were going to repeat if they had not in "X" number of spins.Perhaps it was 20 or 21 ?

                There is nothing like that. Any set may turn sleeper for any stretch of time. Nothing is ever due to happen. Come out of this ancient "gamblers' fallacy". It has no room in mature world. If numbers of last 6 spins have to appear after 20 or 21 spins, one will wait for 15 misses and start applying martingale on all numbers and win for sure in the first hit. I have trackers and bots which can analyse any data for such variances and i have seen as long as 40-50 spins passing without any number hitting from past 6 spins.


                   I wonder as to how in today's world people are still believing that there is a limit of variance and that can be utilized.
I can clearly pronounce that: there is no absolute limit of variance in any betselection, that can be utilized to earn even one unit by risking even thousands of units.

Dear all,

It is defintely not smart to predict when a particular number will hit.

But I am saying the certainty of a repeat.

In 4 spin, there will be at least one colour which repeated twice (either red, black or green)

In 5 spin, there will be at least one dozen which will repeat twice (either dozen 1, dozen 2, dozen 3 or zero)

In 38 spin, there will be at least one number which will hit twice or more (100%)

But which colour? which dozen? which number? when?

If it only repeat on the last spin, can we still profit?

It fascinates me, but annoys me because I am nowhere near a bet/system yet.

Regards,

NoBody ^.^

Quote from: NoBody on November 03, 2012, 04:35:10 PM


It fascinates me, but annoys me because I am nowhere near a bet/system yet.

Regards,

NoBody ^.^

A Suggestion: 

Take a look at the GUT thread.

But before you watch the video(s) dip into the GUT Resources sticky to gain an overall understanding. (Otherwise you won't understand the videos)

Then watch the video(s)

Maybe there's something there for you...maybe not.  Your decision, of course!

QuoteBut I am saying the certainty of a repeat.In 4 spin, there will be at least one colour which repeated twice (either red, black or green)In 5 spin, there will be at least one dozen which will repeat twice (either dozen 1, dozen 2, dozen 3 or zero)In 38 spin, there will be at least one number which will hit twice or more (100%)

          What are you saying buddy? when there are only two choices, then one has to come at least twice in three decision. It is like saying that in three flips of a coin, wither "Head" or "Tail" will appear at least twice. This in not a certainty of repeat but rather two independent choices in every flip.


                         G. U. T. may look great to some of the members here but as any other systems, it fails to produce anything in long run.
G. U. T. is not an answer to the randomness of roulette, though it is a way to try your luck.
                           Yesterday, I was chatting with my buddy "Ophis" who is a a nice programmer, as to why he never considered putting G.U.T into his Multi System Tracker.
         Here is my chat with him:

Quote[size=78%][11/4/2012 7:56:15 PM] sumiteshwar: tell me one thing[/size]
[11/4/2012 7:56:27 PM] sumiteshwar: u r pretty experienced with softwares
[11/4/2012 7:58:02 PM] sumiteshwar: Have you ever tried G.U.T. of winkel?
[11/4/2012 7:58:21 PM] sumiteshwar: in  your MST or anywhere seperately?
[11/4/2012 8:18:43 PM | Edited 8:19:05 PM] ohsteos: in theory its great... in practice... too many numbers to bet... not clear explanations when what to bet.... could never reproduce results
[11/4/2012 8:19:01 PM] sumiteshwar: yeah
[11/4/2012 8:19:10 PM] sumiteshwar: It never impressed me
[11/4/2012 8:26:31 PM] sumiteshwar: but it was too much hyped on all roulette forums
[11/4/2012 8:28:38 PM] ohsteos: because its complicated...
[size=78%][11/4/2012 8:28:50 PM] ohsteos: ppl didint understand so there was lots of discusion[/size]

"  G. U. T. may look great to some of the members here but as any other systems, it fails to produce anything in long run."

Maybe...maybe not.

But 2CS  seems to be doing very nicely in the short term.

Perhaps that's the way to use this sort of system?