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Why is said hit and run is not to be able to be programmed?

Started by wannawin, December 20, 2012, 08:46:45 PM

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wannawin

Why do many people say the hit and run technique can not be programmed? In the casino you have a hit and walk out the door. When on your computer you have a hit for you to make a pause.

The program can make pauses to miss any number of sets without playing. It simulates not being present in the casino as the game continues. If it is a bot it can surely be made to stop for a few hours betting dummy bets. If it is a test with a file using past numbers then the entire file is to be discarded when you hit to pass to the next file as if it is the next day in the casino again.

If is not too much to ask you can tell me your opinion. I just think it should not be hard to make a program to pause without betting. This simulates the run.

If you tell me there is a difference between leaving the casino through the door as opposed to pause the computer then I have no case.

Thank you.
say things directly to show respect for other people's time. Walter.

Gizmotron

I've programmed the hit and run already. It is in my simulation of pattern breaker. And yes, It selects random points to return to a simulated open table. Now if you need to get specific, it can include that on Tuesday grandma lets me out of he basement to drop me off at the casino around 2:00pm and the bus takes me home, grandma's basement, at 6:30pm that same day. You can even make the casino shut down the casino at 3:00am and reopen the table at about 10:30am. The trick appears that in order to win at this you must know the magical secret. That might be difficult because the whimsical thing appears to be a moving target that always favors the blessed few.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

JohnLegend

Quote from: wannawin on December 20, 2012, 08:46:45 PM
Why do many people say the hit and run technique can not be programmed? In the casino you have a hit and walk out the door. When on your computer you have a hit for you to make a pause.

The program can make pauses to miss any number of sets without playing. It simulates not being present in the casino as the game continues. If it is a bot it can surely be made to stop for a few hours betting dummy bets. If it is a test with a file using past numbers then the entire file is to be discarded when you hit to pass to the next file as if it is the next day in the casino again.

If is not too much to ask you can tell me your opinion. I just think it should not be hard to make a program to pause without betting. This simulates the run.

If you tell me there is a difference between leaving the casino through the door as opposed to pause the computer then I have no case.

Thank you.
Its about breaking a cycle. Can any method with a progression survive a million spin test? Everyone just said no. Can a method played H.A.R with a progression survive the equivalent broken into shorter frames.

YES. Why is it different to play H.A.R on a computer or 5 different live tables. Think about that. Then think some more.




AMK

JL,


A longtime ago a friend tested PB continually over 100K spins, no zero.




TOTAL GAMES PLAYED    1781


TOTAL GAMES WON        1530


TOTAL GAMES LOST          212 ........  in 6000 games you had 531 losses


DOUBLE LOSSES                36 .........  in 6000 games you had 7 double losses



BALANCE                           negative



Your current 6000 game stats clearly show that your live HAR playing style is significantly different from continually computer testing.




RESULTS UPDATE FOR *PATTERN BREAKER* FOR 07/11/2012

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 6,000

TOTAL GAMES WON 5,469

TOTAL GAMES LOST 531

STRIKERATE APPROX 10/1

BALANCE 5,640 POINTS PLUS

DOUBLE LOSSES 7

TREBLE LOSSES **ZERO**

Gizmotron

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 20, 2012, 09:15:07 PM
Why is it different to play H.A.R on a computer or 5 different live tables. Think about that. Then think some more.

I had no idea you were a funny man. When the heck will this year of promise be over?
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

Dino246

JL,H+R should in theory work the same Online same as live......yet.

Where do you NOW play....is it at Paddy's with a Live Dealer.

Can YOU swear It's 10000000% Kosher.

TwoCatSam

WW

In my opinion, there is no difference and any bot maker could program HAR into the software. 

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.   ...Will Rogers

JohnLegend

Quote from: dino246 on December 20, 2012, 10:17:24 PM
JL,H+R should in theory work the same Online same as live......yet.

Where do you NOW play....is it at Paddy's with a Live Dealer.

Can YOU swear It's 10000000% Kosher.
I can't speak for all online live casinis Dino. But I believe PADDYPOWER to be very fair. My results there are no different to any B&M casino. Just faster.

Bayes

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 20, 2012, 09:15:07 PM
YES. Why is it different to play H.A.R on a computer or 5 different live tables. Think about that. Then think some more.

John, you tell me. Really, I'd love to know. ???

Superman

@ wannawin, the problem is, my version of hit n run may be different than Bayes version of programmed hit n run, different variables/measurments/time scales.

The only version we know (or are told) that works is JLs' version, a few have tried to do the same manually but failed.

QuoteWhen on your computer you have a hit for you to make a pause

QuoteThe program can make pauses to miss any number of sets without playing. It simulates not being present in the casino as the game continues. If it is a bot it can surely be made to stop for a few hours betting dummy bets

The bold words are grey words as they have no values assigned to them, do you see my/our point that its difficult to program, it can be done you are right but the time scales will not match JLs' style
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

wannawin

What I wanted to know is if there is a difference between leaving the casino and do it on the computer as a pause. Thank you very much to all for your input.

About the question. How is the live person to replicate the periods to one hundred percent? Once traffic was bad on the way to the casino and was late for his game. The other day the wife sent him on an errand and arrived late. Another time he left early preventing traffic but he was hitchhiked by a friend in a Ferrari through a shortcut. He arrived early this time.

One can say that the periods of run are not static. This is the point of entering random times to try to avoid the inevitable.

If it works or not is in the arena. I suppose it is up to each punter to answer sincerely to himself.

Greetings and many thanks.
say things directly to show respect for other people's time. Walter.