Gizmo, how about setting up a separate web site or blog for all this? it would be nice to have it all in one place and you could put the URL in your signature. You could give examples, upload your tracking software etc. As it is, all your posts are scattered in different sections and forums and not that easy to find. Just a suggestion.

Good idea. I'll second that.

I've previously got a bit lost trying to locate all those random bits'n'pieces.

You could look at Weebly as a possible free host.

Quote from: Bayes on March 30, 2013, 08:33:29 AM
Gizmo, how about setting up a separate web site or blog for all this? it would be nice to have it all in one place and you could put the URL in your signature. You could give examples, upload your tracking software etc. As it is, all your posts are scattered in different sections and forums and not that easy to find. Just a suggestion.

First off, the suggestion is flattering. I have it here for one very good reason. It's in the hands of those that want it the most. It's in the hands of those that reject it. No one will be able to say sure, he kept to himself before he wrecked it. You do realize that the full release of a working application, coupled with a very simple to understand explanation will have the potential for a wide spread result. I have a good use for that result.

And there's also an extra benefit. There's poor Spike. He's like the court clown at the gathering of the mathboyz. That will be the moment when these forums take on a whole new perspective. Imagine having documented coverage of the flat earthers during the realm of Columbus. Only now we have it all in their own words. And we have the resident bone head for amusement sake. It's all good.

Moderator's comment:   The poster has been sanctioned for posting an inflammatory and insulting comment that clearly violates the forum rules.

It's time the two of them stopped behaving like a couple of fractious children and showed adult maturity.

Either will automatically mute themselves if there is any more of this unseemly behaviour in future .

Quote from: Bayes on March 30, 2013, 08:33:29 AM
Gizmo, how about setting up a separate web site or blog for all this?

Good idea. I would love to see all this stuff
he constantly alludes to as 'being here', all
the stuff he claims is the Grail, and which
and which I can't find, I'd like to see him gather it
all in one thread so he can just refer to that
thread from now on.

Spike, perhaps someone will feel sorry for you and assemble something. Victor has his own method that is very good too. There are others here that have versions of randomness and guessing too.  I had no trouble finding their contributions. I really don't see the difficulties. I'm sorry Spike, I'm very busy working on something more important.

Quote from: Gizmotron on March 31, 2013, 01:11:58 AM
Spike, perhaps someone will feel sorry for you and assemble something.

Yes, something would be better than nothing,
which is all I can find now. With every post, I'm
directed to look at another post, which directs
me to another thread, which directs me back here.
I'm starting to think its all a wild baloney chase..

Quote from: spike on March 31, 2013, 02:42:06 AM
Yes, something would be better than nothing,
which is all I can find now.

That certainly explains how you can criticise my contribution to understanding randomness. Your opinions are groundless, based on impressions that you want to be correct. As if wishful thinking were your argument. You have no basis in fact. You clearly demonstrate an unscientific approach to your efforts in these forums. Any might guess that jealousy were your primary motivation. But that's just an educated guess. I'll be done with my proof of concept algorithm within two months. Perhaps you should use your own capacity to research my writings at this forum. It would be very interesting watching you explain to everyone how an example of working proof can't work, even though it clearly does in demonstration.

By request I've been asked to bury the hatchet. I've actually considered that.

I've set out to accomplish the impossible. So I'll  do it. 

I leave to do a difficult task. But I give you this Spike:

Pink Floyd Lost For Words

You must wait for it.

"By request I've been asked to bury the hatchet."

Good man. 

Blessed is the peacemaker.

I wonder if I get this black box validator working, I wonder if I should first sell it to rich people. I figured out a way to give it away as a trial period. Steve says he makes $300,000 per year off his sales. It's obvious that there are people that could afford to validate this in a real world testing type of a situation. That would eventually lead to rumors of its effectiveness. That would cause a big enough buzz as to cause a great deal of attention. That would lead to a proper demonstration to occur. Then a release of the open source version would be taken serious.

Any ideas or comments regarding this are welcome.

Quote from: Gizmotron on April 05, 2013, 01:35:10 PM
Any ideas or comments regarding this are welcome.

My comment is: if you have a clear intention of making it public from the beginning, you can release it open-source from day 1. Even from the building stages.

If you want people to use it, but don't want to disclose the "how to's" you can always make a web application, host it in a secure server and let willing people connect.


If there's money to be made, it's almost certain someone "out there" will show interest

The main idea with it is to teach and validate concept. So I'm designing it to produce telemetry for each characteristic of randomness. In other words it outputs what I think when analyzing each spin. That way I won't have to teach by writing books. The software does that for you. I would like to be compensated for the four to six months of work that is going into development of this product. That's what it is you know. It will teach far better and easier than any book and teaching school. Other people will become experts. It is they that can teach those that struggle with it. I might sell it at a reasonable price, as a software product. What about that? Once I reach a set earnings goal I can let it go as open source. How much is six months of development time worth?

Quote from: Gizmotron on April 05, 2013, 03:30:14 PM
How much is six months of development time worth?

It varies by country and what the programmer agrees to. Over here it is usually a "per project" fee. In other countries it is measured in $/hours.

You should check the status yourself by asking an IT professional from your locality.

Will you public a holy grail?

No.

But i would assist someone to go in the right direction.

Regards
Max

Quote from: Max on April 05, 2013, 04:56:16 PM
Will you public a holy grail?

No.

But i would assist someone to go in the right direction.

Regards
Max

Max, I already did. It's published here, like chips in chocolate chipped cookies. The only thing not published is a spin by spin explanation and working results. I really did expect people here to do the work. Human nature deserves a lesson. Max, the answer is YES.  When you get the message you will scratch your head. You will ask, why tell the true holy grail publicly?