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Started by wannawin, March 27, 2013, 04:19:04 PM

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Razor

Gizmotron can you please guide me to which topic/posts to look in order to read all your info about your HG?
Thank you.
Peaceful warrior

RouletteKEY

I did about 5 minutes of looking on this...Gizmo is this the basis (I know or presume the basis would actually be in the interpretation of what is tracked and what you do with that interpretation) of what everybody is looking for? If they search this----Tracking Software for Practice Real Play

Like I said I only looked for about 5 minutes because people keep asking.  Looking at the tracker format it wasn't my cup of tea because I am just stuck in my ways of betting just a couple inside numbers and I'm usually looking at repeaters of one form or another or repeating wheel sectors so all the outside tracking wasn't huge to me...although I realize the outside tracking does correlate to those pesky inside numbers (something about old dogs probably applies here).  If I'm way off track that's okay too...at least it can narrow things down for everybody a little more as to what you're not referring to then.

Gizmotron

Yes, that tracking software is essential. You can fill out charts by hand if you can't run this software. I have an example further down in  that thread. There is another thread here where I published the list of characteristics that I look for while looking at these type of charts. Do a search for "list" & gizmotron.  That might bring it up.

It did :
http://betselection.cc/meta-selection/the-simple-explanation-attacking-trends/msg2678/#msg2678 

"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

Gizmotron

I've had a request to write this in another scripting language. I've got enough to do writing it in xTalk. Here is the secret to programming it. Have the algorithm perform each observation of a characteristic at a time. Have it send back a percentage of effectiveness from the recent history of spins. Do this for all the characteristics, including the possibility of a working global effect occurring for each characteristic. Make the software think like you think when identifying characteristics and patterns. Take all that data and have the software select the best trend to bet on. Have the software evaluate the session difficulty. Have the software constantly search for elegant patterns.

To write this software you must already know how to do everything. It makes no sense in tutoring others at this point. The software, when completed, will be the perfect tutor. It will kick out perfect telemetry for every characteristic, for every spin entered.

I know there are those that want this to operate as a bot. It won't need to be a bot. You can run it on a second screen while you are logged into an online session.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

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Razor

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Trebor


Gizmotron,

I've spent quite some time practicing with the tracker using all the information you've given on various threads.

Although I sometimes manage to get on some good trends I'm a long way off being good enough, it's a lot harder than it looks.

A lot is down to never being sure when a trend is strong enough.  By the time I'm sure it's stopped.

Would you say you're so well versed in this technique that it's almost intuitive?  Is that how good I have to become?


I can imagine that your new software might really help speed up the learning process.


Trebor

Razor

I am always trying to have an open mind but this "follow the trend" approach seems to me like anything else.
Because follow the trend or go against the trend has the same rate.
And even if we are mixing these events we can still lose because randomness has no flow.
What I say is that there is no better selection whatever we chose because the pockets of the wheel are still there and nothing is blocking the unbet pockets to hit.

That s my opinion that is comming from pure logic...

I respect Gizmos theory and I hope he really wins with it but I don t think it s any better than anything else.

Ofcource I hope I am wrong for the sake of all the members in here
Peaceful warrior

TwoCatSam

Razor

I pretty much agree with you, but trends and waves do occur.  Whether or not they can be ridden to $$$$ is another story.

Sam


If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.   ...Will Rogers

Razor

Yes sure Sam.
But trends are just the tracks that randomness leaves behind.It should leave something behind as preveous results...either we call them trends or random results its the same thing.
Trying to ride them seems useless because NEW tracks will be added soon and they are UNPREDICTABLE.
They aren t human tracks they are the tracks of a random ball spining in a wheel with always 37 pockets of freedom...they have no root,no destination as human tracks.

But I am waiting the tool of Mr Gizmo with great interest.
Peaceful warrior

Bayes

Quote from: Trebor on April 06, 2013, 11:06:37 AM
A lot is down to never being sure when a trend is strong enough.  By the time I'm sure it's stopped.

I think what gizmo does is try to anticipate a trend (try to catch it early on) and not wait until it's firmly established before riding along with it. As you say, the problem with trying to exploit trends is that they can turn in the blink of an eye. Anyway, I'm looking forward to giving gizmo's software a trial when it's done.

Gizmotron

Razor -" ... like anything else."

That's exactly correct. Following trends is no better than anything else. But it's not a mindless set of rules, like a progression is. What it is, and why I like it, it's a great method to detect winning streaks and losing streaks. It gives you a "WHY" it's working. When you are searching for cause and effect, even if it is not real, like seeing formations in clouds, trends are just a method to apply a mapping of the recent effectiveness. The sole purpose of which is to move into win streaks while avoiding being killed by the losing streaks. You can use anything to give meaning to the why. I have found that using a ( why it's working ) method makes seeing the global effects, the elegant patterns, the win streaks easier to keep track of. Every session is different. You must learn to treat every session differently. Keep your eyes on the big things that always tend to be similar. The biggest thing is the win streaks. They come and go differently every session. The why they come and go is different every time too. I have a well developed agility. My intuition is to adapt to the current conditions.  To do that I must see them. That's why I must have a useful method of mapping the conditions. Following trends is just a tool that leads to a stretch of positive results that are easier to exploit.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

Gizmotron

I thought I would show a little progress so far. This telemetry will be changed to logical phrases that are good for seeing process. I still have to add recognition for patterns, global effect, and session effectiveness.

holdYesListSingle && holdThisBet && zapDis
Level 2 doz3, col2,  col2, 2

<<<< -- Winner! -- >>>>
-----------------------
Your running total is now at 20

Place a bet of 10 on Column 2

holdYesListSingle && holdThisBet && zapDis
Level 2 doz3, col2,  col2, 2

<<<< -- Winner! -- >>>>
-----------------------
Your running total is now at 40

Place a bet of 10 on Column 2

false1, false2, false3 -- holdDozDoz3sp
true1, false2, false3 -- holdDozCol3sp
false1, false2, false3 -- holdDozDoz7sp
false1, false2, false3 -- holdDozCol7sp
3213112111321 -- dozList
3113211123222 -- colList
even, high, doz2, col3,  -- holdMaybeListSingle
col1,  -- holdMaybeListSleep
doz3, col2,  -- holdYesListSingle
-- holdYesListSleep
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES."