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esoito

My internet cat dropped this on my doorstep the other day.

I present it to you without comment, except to note two things:

1  Testing was done on an American wheel

2  Some minor editing to help the flow, but the method is untouched. 


The title of the original -- a bold statement if ever there was one -- screams for the contents to be looked at closely.

So over to you.

Critique the content. Take it apart. Post your comments, tweaks, tests, appraisals.

Your comments can help the less experienced to view these sorts of claims from a more objective standpoint. Perhaps.

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World's Best And Safest Roulette System


Profit averages $60 per hour using $1 chips. Losing sessions are very rare -- about two per thousand spins.

Don't risk more than $100 on any spin.  Total bankroll is $185.

Two basic bets are made on every spin: Low (1-18) and the 3rd Dozen (25-36)


Bet One - One to Eighteen
The 1 - 18 bet on the outside of the roulette table covers the numbers 1 to 18.
This bet pays even money, meaning that a $1 bet pays $1 if any of the numbers 1 to 18 come up on the next spin.

Bet Two - Third Dozen
The 3rd Dozen or 3rd 12 bet on the outside of the roulette table covers the numbers 25 to 36.
This bet pays two to one, meaning that a $1 bet pays $2 if any of the numbers 25 to 36 come up on the next spin.

Placing the Two Bets Together
You can cover 30 numbers on the roulette layout by placing two bets on every spin: 1-18 and the 3rd Dozen.


Only 7 numbers  (8 on American wheels) can make you lose:  0,19,20,21,22,23 and 24.

You must place the two bets in the proper amount of 3 chips on 1-18 and 2 chips on the 3rd Dozen.

Why?

* If 1 to 18 comes up, you win 3 chips on 1-18 and lose 2 chips on 25 to 36, for a profit of 1 chip.

* If 25 to 36 comes up, you win 4 chips on that bet and lose 3 chips on 1-18 for a profit of 1 chip.


Losing Frequencies
How many times in a row can the two bets lose?

The two bets together don't lose very often and not too many times in a row.

That's because on every spin you have 30 chances of winning versus only 8 chances of losing.

The odds of winning are tremendously in your favour.

After thousands of test spins using recorded casino spins, the most times in a row the two bets lost were four times.

In an average 1000 (live) spins, there should be:

       
  • 210 single losses
  •   40 two-in-a-row losses
  •    9 three-in-a-row losses
  •    2 four-in-a-row losses
  •    0 five-in-a-row or more losses

These numbers are based on mathematical probability. During testing, the numbers varied from each group of 1000 spins, but not by much.

We have never seen a five-in-a-row loss in our testing. This doesn't mean five in a row or more are not possible. Anything is possible, but the odds against seeing five in a row losses or more are astronomical!

On average, you can expect a two-in-a-row or more loss once every 40 spins.

With such a low "losses in a row" rate, you can formulate simple progressions to take advantage of these great odds.

Winning Progressions
If any one of the 7 or 8 losing numbers come up, 0,19,20,21,22,23 or 24, you lose both bets for a total loss of 5 chips.

If you bet 5 chips on every spin, you will lose money in the long run. However, if you increase your two bets after a loss, you will win more money in the long term than you lose in the short term.

Our "basic bet" is 3/2 (3 chips on 1-18 and 2 chips on the 3rd Dozen).

Continue to bet 3/2 until you have a loss  -- when 0,19,20,21,22,23 or 24 comes up.

One Loss
After your first losing bet increase your bet to 9/6.
If that bet wins, your next bet is also 9/6.
If that bet wins, you have made a 1 chip profit.
You only need to win the next two spins in a row to show a profit.

Example
The first spin is 21. You lose 5 chips.
Your next bet is 9 chips on 1-18 and 6 chips on the 3rd Dozen.
The next spin is 4. You win 9 chips on 1-18 and lose 6 chips on the 3rd Dozen for a profit of 3 chips. When you subtract the 5 chips you lost on the first spin, you're still down 2 chips.
Your next bet is again 9 and 6 chips. 
The next spin is 7. You're profit for this spin is again 3 chips. Add that to your minus 2 chips and you're ahead 1 chip.
You now go back to your basic bet of 3/2 chips.

Two Losses in a Row
Our "basic bet" is 3/2 (3 chips on 1-18 and 2 chips on the 3rd Dozen).
After first losing bet your next bet is 9/6.
If that bet loses, your next bet is 33/22.
If that bet wins, your next bet is also 33/22.
If that bet wins, you have made a 1 chip profit.
Your next bet is again 3/2

Three Losses in a Row
Our "basic bet" is 3/2 (3 chips on 1-18 and 2 chips on the 3rd Dozen).
After first losing bet your next bet is 9/6.
If that bet loses, your next bet is 33/22.
If that bet loses, your next bet is 74/36.
If that bet wins, your next bet is also 74/36.
If that bet wins, your next bet is also 74/36.
Your next bet is again 3/2.If either of the last two bets lose, take the $185 loss and play again later.

Converting Four-in-a-row Losses to Winners
This strategy eliminates most four-in-a-row losses.
Anytime one of the eight losing number shows up, switch to the opposite two bets for the next bet:
On the next bet after a loss, place 9 chips on 19-36 and 6 chips on the 1st Dozen.
Then, switch back to your normal bets.

Example
Consider this sequence of spins:
19
21
19
23
19
21 (betting on 19-36 and the 1st Dozen turns this into a win!)
19 (switching back to 1-18/3rd Dozen turns this into one loss)
23 (betting on 19-36 and the 1st Dozen turns this into a win!)


Profit Expectation
In an average 1000 spins you should win $630. ($1000 minus 2 losses of $185 each).

As stated earlier, you should only experience 2 four-in-a-row losses per thousand spins.

The above progression is the one we use when we play this system.

You can experiment with your own progressions if you'd like.

Albalaha

This system has been sold with dozens of names. It is only as good or bad as playing anything else. A bad sequence will make losses irrecoverable.
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Sputnik

 
I have seen a very long and aggressive progression using this method.
Don't remember how many step it covers.

I will search and see if i find the topic ...

Cheers

Sputnik

 
Here is the RX code ...
    system "World's Best and Safest Roulette system Ver 2"
{
*************************************
*         System by Zac2170         *
*         on the VIP Lounge         *
*************************************
         Rx-ed by Sp1N-D1zZy
-------------------------------------
           00-c0mpatible
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Bet on Low and 3rd Dozen simultaneously with the following progression:

3/2, 9/6, 33/22, 74/36, 240/160, 600/400

On a loss, move up one in progression AND switch betting layout to
opposite of current layout. (If Low and 3rd Dozen, change to High and 1st Dozen.)

On a win, switch layouts back to original. If at 3/2, start again from scratch.
If at 9/6, wait for 2 wins in a row before starting again from scratch.
If at 33/22, again wait for 2 wins in a row before starting from scratch.
If at 74/36, wait for 3 wins in a row before starting from scratch.
If at 240/160, wait for 3 wins in a row before starting from scratch.
If at 600/400, wait for 3 wins in a row before starting from scratch.
-------------------------------------
}
method "main"
begin
while starting new session
    begin
    call "Init"
    end
if net > 0
    begin
    copy list [low] record"Even"layout
    copy list [3rd dozen] record"Dozen"layout
    if record"Even"data index = 2 or record"Even"data index = 3
        begin
        add 1 record"Loss Progression"data
        if record"Loss Progression"data = 2
            begin
            put 0 record"Loss Progression"data
            put 1 record"Even"data index
            put 1 record"Dozen"data index
            end
        end
    if record"Even"data index = 4 or record"Even"data index = 5
    or record"Even"data index = 6
        begin
        add 1 record"Loss Progression"data
        if record"Loss Progression"data = 3
            begin
            put 0 record"Loss Progression"data
            put 1 record"Even"data index
            put 1 record"Dozen"data index
            end
        end
    end
if net < 0
    begin
    put 0 record"Loss Progression"data
    add 1 record"Even"data index
    add 1 record"Dozen"data index
    call "Switch Layouts"
    if record"Even"data index > record"Even"data count
        begin
        put 1 record"Even"data index
        put 1 record"Dozen"data index
        copy list [low] record"Even"layout
        copy list [3rd dozen] record"Dozen"layout
        end
    end
call "Place Bets"
end

method "Place Bets"
begin
put 100% record"Even"data record"Even"layout
put 100% record"Dozen"data record"Dozen"layout
end

method "Switch Layouts"
begin
if list [low] pattern match record"Even"layout
    begin
    copy list [high] record"Even"layout
    copy list [1st Dozen] record"Dozen"layout
    end
    else
    begin
    copy list [low] record"Even"layout
    copy list [3rd dozen] record"Dozen"layout
    end
end

method "Init"
begin
copy list [low] record"Even"layout
copy list [3rd dozen] record"Dozen"layout
group
    begin
    display "World's Best and Safest Roulette System"
    display "------------------------------------------------------------------------------"
    input dropdown "Progression
    1:=4 Step
    2:=5 Step
    3:=6 Step" record"Progression Step"data
    end
if record"Progression Step"data = 1
    begin
    set list [3,9,33,74] record"Even"data
    set list [2,6,22,36] record"Dozen"data
    put 1 record"Even"data index
    put 1 record"Dozen"data index
    end
if record"Progression Step"data = 2
    begin
    set list [3,9,33,74,240] record"Even"data
    set list [2,6,22,36,160] record"Dozen"data
    put 1 record"Even"data index
    put 1 record"Dozen"data index
    end
if record"Progression Step"data = 3
    begin
    set list [3,9,33,74,240,600] record"Even"data
    set list [2,6,22,36,160,400] record"Dozen"data
    put 1 record"Even"data index
    put 1 record"Dozen"data index
    end
end

esoito

@Albalaha
Yes, it's always a good idea to look at the bottom line/worst case outlay first.

So many inexperienced players don't think to do this as part of risk assessment.

@Sputnik
A great contribution.  :thumbsup:   It makes it easy for those with RX to try it out.

klw

This system could have more merit if you switch the base bets around so that your liability is the current sleeping line. Of course the skill is in determining which line you think will currently sleep long enough to make a profit.


Cheers.

esoito

RW's very relevant observation above is  a good point at which to drop the Vallasio system into the mix.

And that's one that I use. (My copy is watermarked with Do Not Copy -- so I won't.)

It's a rather neat flat betting approach to the same method of using just the Low and third dozen (or High and first dozen, of course).

Sadly, a bloke  could die of old age waiting for Vallasio's recommended betting triggers to cut in. So as a personal variation I wrote a program to assess trends as my betting triggers instead.

Outlays are comfortable. Returns are pretty consistent -- so far!

And I religiously stick to 5 units profit or 3 consecutive wins (whichever comes first) as the point at which to stop.

BEAT-THE-WHEEL

This system is good only for the bet selection as it produce near equilibrium after a long FLAT-bet!
The million dollar grail lies in the PROGRESSION.
Any bet selection that produce nearly equal profit loss, after..., say 100 spins, is always a good bet selection, and throw in a godly PROGRESSION,  and it will be a constant winner!!!

esoito

Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on July 17, 2014, 02:57:23 AM
This system is good only for the bet selection as it produce near equilibrium after a long FLAT-bet!
The million dollar grail lies in the PROGRESSION.
Any bet selection that produce nearly equal profit loss, after..., say 100 spins, is always a good bet selection, and throw in a godly PROGRESSION,  and it will be a constant winner!!!

Good points, BTW.

I can only repeat my own preference: "And I religiously stick to 5 units profit or 3 consecutive wins (whichever comes first) as the point at which to stop."

Using my software's modified version of the Vallasio System my flat-betting target is usually achieved well within 15-20 spins the most -- usually within 10 spins.

I simply have no inclination to spend any longer than that watching a little white ball. 

Mathemagician

In the book The Winning Rules , 1905 this is known as the Ex-Croupiers system (p123).  It's also in my ebook 'Online Roulette The Winning Rules' It's about the only system in it which uses progressive staking. I do play it occasionally but it must be on a no zero or a French Table where half of even money stakes are returned on a zero,

It is in my program Roulette Key Gold (System X) and it is automatically suggested after several of the non winning numbers come up in succession.
However, it is dangerous and I only ever play it for a handful of spins.

I have a short video of it online at a European Table at

http://roulettekeygold.com/videos/ExCroupierSystem/index.html






esoito

"However, it is dangerous and I only ever play it for a handful of spins."

Exactly so.

In fact, I'm now so conservative with it I stop on 1 unit profit, and then move on to another strategy altogether. (More details in the thread Here Is A Grail:  http://betselection.cc/general-discussion/here-is-a-grail/  )


Mathemagician


I agree it pays to vary strategies and be satisified with small targets.


I sometimes switch to 'The Beginners System' (VII in the Winning Rules and RKG).
1 unit on red, 1 on odd, 1 on the First Dozen


It can reach the target very quickly but it can go on and on.
In the example  below its only a few spins, but even after 30+ it frequently  breaks even
However, unlike the ex-croupiers you don't need to increase stakes.




[size=78%]See http://roulettekeygold.com/videos/Safe/safe.html[/size]




Mike

Sorry, but I don't see how stopping after 1 unit profit in any way reduces the risk of a loss. It would only be so if you had solid grounds for making an individual bet in the first place, or you could predict the future. This is the hit and run fallacy rearing its ugly head again.

From the proposition "if you make many bets, you will lose", people seem to be inferring: "therefore, if you don't make many bets, you won't lose". But this latter proposition does not follow. The only conclusion you can validly draw from the first is  "if you haven't lost, you haven't made many bets".

The apparent advantage is an illusion. You are consoled because if you only make 7 bets per week, it will probably take longer to lose than if you made 7 per day. The end result is the same, but in the first case it will take longer to get there.

Sputnik


I just test one selection for fun.
Wait until line 3 or 4 fall into sleep.

Today random org file ...

5
2
6
1
4
5 W
2 W
1 W
1 W
6 W
6 W
6 W
1 W
6 W
5 W
2 W
6 W
4 W
5 W
6 W
3 L

- -

2
1
5
3
6
5 W
6 W
1 W
6 W
3 W
1 W
3 W
6 W
4 L

- -

6
2
4
1
5
6 W
1 W
3 L

- -

6
5
3
5
3
5
5
3
1
3
3
2
4 L

- -

2
1
5
2
6
4
2 W
4 W
2 W
1 W
5 W
2 W
4 W
3 L

- -

1
6
5
5
5
3
2
1 W
5 W
5 W
6 W
5 W
2 W
1 W
2 W
1 W
6 W
6 W
4 L

- -

2
3
1
1
6
3
6
1
5
5 W
3 W
5 W
3 W
6 W
6 W
6 W
1 W
1 W
1 W
1 W
2 W
1 W
1 W
6 W
1 W
2 W
5 W
4 L

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Albalaha

What kind of bet is this showing so many wins and almost negligible losses?
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