Coincidence

Gizmotron · June 19, 2018, 01:08:47 PM

Quote from: Mike on June 19, 2018, 08:06:36 AM
... math by itself only gives you answers relative to your assumptions. If you haven't looked at the process which generates the data then no amount of manipulation of the data will tell you about causes and effects, ie, reality. Most systems on gambling forums only look at the data generated from the games, they don't look at the underlying process which generated it; that's the mistake.

Coincidence. I wonder how a person would go about accessing the equivocation of coincidences that occur from time to time. I have listened to Mike. He communicates very well. He is basically saying that you can't know when a streak will occur or when it will end. And also how long it will last. You can't know that in advance. I agree. You can't know that in advance. Mike is suggesting that absent that knowledge you don't have an edge. Is there math to support that theory?

If you get 20 red numbers in a row on a Roulette wheel is it possible to win just one single bet from that streak? If that is possible then is it possible to win two bets from that streak? Is there math to support the idea that during a streak, in other words a streak that has not yet displayed its ending, is there math to predict what the next spin will do? I'm not taking about the odds for one spin either. Is there math that predicts what will happen in a coincidence? It would need to predict what is going to happen. Does math predict the future? Does math give you that edge?

Gizmotron · June 20, 2018, 12:53:53 PM

Clustering illusion or bag of gold.

You can play to gather enough flakes of gold to make the effort worth your time. And, you can keep an eye out for 2 ounce nuggets to show up in your sluice box. If you play to find the big winner, the bag of gold, you must know how to go about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clustering_illusion

QuoteThe clustering illusion is the tendency to erroneously consider the inevitable "streaks" or "clusters" arising in small samples from random distributions to be non-random. The illusion is caused by a human tendency to under predict the amount of variability likely to appear in a small sample of random or semi-random data.

You won't find "bags of Gold" for playing Roulette at any wiki.

1.) You must know how to detect a bag of gold.
2.) You must know how to grab a bag of gold.

If you don't know items 1 & 2 then you can't objectively dismiss the possibility that these are in fact skills that can be learned. I mean how would you know? People like to dismiss learning situations because that can't conceive of how a person would go about doing something. So it's a nonstarter right out of the gate. It is my opinion that most people want a provable edge that gives them a set of rules in order to treat Roulette like an ATM machine. I mean the desire to pick up a bag of gold is there. They just don't want to do the work to get to finding it and actually picking it up.

Rather than find that bag of gold they want to know in advance when a coincidence will happen. They want Arithmetic to solve the problem and to give them the answer. If it won't do that then they are justified to dismiss the whole idea. So that is what we see and get from people that actually want to be respected. They then use excuses like seeing things thru rose colored glasses. They tell people things that are the definition of the clustering illusion. They think they are being smart.

So someone comes along and tries to show them nuggets in the sluice box and bags of gold just sitting on the ground. Now for the past 12 years this method of communication has produced a null result. We have had the Meme & Gif monster, who has been on patrol for decades, who has just been muted, yippy, and we have the mathBoyz that have done their best to demand proof of prediction of the future. That's been a monument to the "Straw man" effigy for the past decade too.

So here is another example:

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| X | X | X | X | X | | -- 1
| X | X | X | X | X | | -- 28
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| X | X | X | X | | | -- 16
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I wonder if you can find the nuggets?

alrelax · June 20, 2018, 01:17:52 PM

Yes sir, spot on.

When it's there it's there and like I have shown in pictures and tried to explain, I profited extremely well and when I control my buy ins and my risk capital and when I replace losses right away, it works! Take out the wins and exclude those from your current or future play, large profits are possible.

Coincidence

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