Just a quick note.

Thanks Gizmotron for what you intend to do.

I shall be reading with great interest and am confident you will succeed in communicating that which is worthwhile. Remember of course that it is worthwhile communicating with those ( few) 'who have eyes to see, or ears to hear' - ie, an attitude ( a manner of thinking + feeling ) of being 'open' and 'responsive' to  ideas that challenge the currently accepted norms. Others may be dismissive or closed to change but stop/ go is the manner of human progress , ie closed/ open as polarities of our miracle of consciousness.

The occasional nihilist remarks from Mike are amusing and of course when taken to the boundaries of mainstream experience are absurd. Ask him also to address some questions to Thomas. The Magician, although you may find Thomas is smart enough to not get drawn in to such time consuming matters. From what he has made public already there is no need to explain further but instead admire.

Mike acts as if there are no professional players in roulette, or successful long term winners, perhaps in any casino game.  Outside of his sphere of comfortable rationalisation astonishing progress has been made in much more accessible research into roulette. What had been thought impossible is becoming more possible, but that is not my story to tell.  I am sure the next 5 years will see remarkable revelations. So good hunting to Gizmo and his followers.

Quote from: XXVV on August 08, 2016, 01:34:34 AM

The occasional nihilist remarks from Mike are amusing and of course when taken to the boundaries of mainstream experience are absurd. Ask him also to address some questions to Thomas. The Magician, although you may find Thomas is smart enough to not get drawn in to such time consuming matters. From what he has made public already there is no need to explain further but instead admire.

Checkmate.

Is Thomas the Magician?

I never expected a war of beliefs to break out. I keep a huge secret about randomness and tell it openly and it's not even seen as a solution to the quest of the Holy Grail. This is funny. The only way most people here can see is by following a Pied Piper for A Rat People. The only way they will know anything is when it is far too late. If I want to drop the bomb I need to write the app after all.

Are there no people that can see the global effect in the chart above?


This is it folks, no fees to be taught. I will disclose everything here, once for all. People go Cuckoo For Cocoa Puffs for the latest mindless system yet finding out what really works leaves them in a state of limbo. Funny how human nature works isn't it?

Gizmo, you posted after I turn off laptop in the evening and, in Europe, we are just waking up!

In your 3rd dozen I only see that chops are becoming rare?!

Few questions more, if that is all right:
If that are dozens, how come there 4 of them?
What are the numbers on the right.

Sorry if it is all known stuff, but for me it first time....

Thanks

@ XXVV,

QuoteThe occasional nihilist remarks from Mike are amusing and of course when taken to the boundaries of mainstream experience are absurd.

Your use of the word "nihilistic" is on the one hand entirely inappropriate here given that it means:

Quotenihilistic
   adjective
   rejecting all religious and moral principles in the belief that life is meaningless.

I'm not suggesting that life is meaningless, only that bet selections in the game of roulette are. On the other hand, it's strangely appropriate in the sense that belief in bet selection is indeed a religion for adherents because they can't or won't understand or accept the self-evident truth that spins are independent, and the implications of that fact. Believers in bet selections won't accept evidence contrary to their beliefs, just as millions of people believe that the earth is only 6000 years old, contrary to the overwhelming evidence that it isn't. The belief comes not from any evidence or lack of it, but just from their desire to believe.

QuoteAsk him also to address some questions to Thomas. The Magician, although you may find Thomas is smart enough to not get drawn in to such time consuming matters. From what he has made public already there is no need to explain further but instead admire.

Ah yes, the "magician". It's a source of continual amazement to me that all someone has to do on a forum to elevate his status to that of a guru is merely make assertions, and perhaps post some unverified stats. It helps if the idea is novel and draws concepts from some esoteric scientific discipline to give it an appearance of science (more Physics envy). The superficiality is breathtaking. Such is the case with Winkel, Kimo Li and others. It's a triumph of style over substance. All you have to do to become a true believer (and admirer of these gurus) is abandon your critical faculties.

QuoteMike acts as if there are no professional players in roulette, or successful long term winners, perhaps in any casino game.

No. You're attacking a straw man. There are indeed professional roulette players, but they target the gaming device, not the game. The games are designed to be profitable for the casino, not the player (with a couple of notable exceptions). Any "professional" player of the GAME won't be professional for long. Looking for chinks in the armour  of the GAME is a highway to nowhere, that's why casinos make every effort to ensure that the gaming device generates spins which are as random as possible.   

QuoteOutside of his sphere of comfortable rationalisation astonishing progress has been made in much more accessible research into roulette.

Oh really? And where can we read about this astonishing progress? On roulette forums? Please post some links to scientific papers or serious academic studies which reveal the extent of this "astonishing progress".

From100,

It's not already known stuff unless anyone has figured it out from my posts of the past decade.

Rather than interesting observations, yes there is a trend where singles are absent any big deal streaks. What's really huge is the fact that when it changes sleeping in one part of the set it sleeps for a good stretch in another part right after it. It's a perfect example of the global effect. You could destroy a casino with this trend if you had the bankroll.

Quote from: Mike on August 08, 2016, 07:15:55 AM
I'm not suggesting that life is meaningless, only that bet selections in the game of roulette are.

These bet selections must be especially meaningless when they appear to produce the three possible states of effectiveness. And if you are too afraid to look I will make it easy for you. Any bet selection, no matter how derived at, must produce a form of the three states. And that my dear boy is meaning.

Does it mean that the same structure appears regularly?

Quote from: Gizmotron on August 08, 2016, 07:39:07 AM
Any bet selection, no matter how derived at, must produce a form of the three states. And that my dear boy is meaning.

Yes there is meaning in the sense that one of the states must manifest at different times for any given bet selection (although your "states" are to some extent artificial and arbitrary). However, bet selections are meaningless in that they entirely fail in their intended aim, which is to (a) produce more wins than are dictated by expectation (call this the "strong" form) or (b) reduce variance (call this the "weak" form).

Of course you disagree, but let's see...

Quote from: from100 on August 08, 2016, 07:40:51 AM
Does it mean that the same structure appears regularly?

A structure like that appears at least once a day or two in every active casino in the world. The global effect has many types. I guess I had better go into what the global effect looks like in its many forms.  It does it for sleepers, for patterns, for singles, and for the effectiveness trend. What it is in its basic form is that it's a trend of a specific characteristic of randomness. In a way it's a "tell" like a very bad poker face. Randomness goes into sequences of repetition that flows like a current in a stream or river. You easily accept that a perfect sequence happening, that kills the most unlikely combination of events that it would take to kill a progression, occurs often enough to prove that the house advantage always prevails. This same randomness produces perfect sequences that appear to act as a tell.

"If you don't know who the patsy is, you are the patsy."

I think that I understand the meaning of your chart now - it is one 180 spins session of following dozens as they come!
Maybe few more words about what is the meaning of few separate parts (were there zeroes?) and numbers?

Thanks

Quote from: Mike on August 08, 2016, 07:50:42 AM
Yes there is meaning in the sense that one of the states must manifest at different times for any given bet selection (although your "states" are to some extent artificial and arbitrary). However, bet selections are meaningless in that they entirely fail in their intended aim, which is to (a) produce more wins than are dictated by expectation (call this the "strong" form) or (b) reduce variance (call this the "weak" form).

Of course you disagree, but let's see...

I guess you like being wrong. These observations are "artificial and arbitrary," and that is true. Because all spins results are independent, these forms of identification are all imaginative forms of structure. There is no cause for them to take the semblance of form. I could care less if they can't predict the future or that they exist because of meaningless observation. The point is that they exist, if only in my imagination. The point is, they are exploitable. That's the part that troubles you. You think that I can't take advantage of perfect sequences. The real issue here for you is, do perfect sequences exist? I say they do. I know this because I search for them. What's funny to me is you search for them too. You know that perfect sequences kill progressions no matter how elaborate they are constructed. So you accept a perfect sequence if it defeats a progression but you fail to accept a perfect sequence if it comes in the form of a perfect repeating trend. Put that in your math pipe and smoke it.

Quote from: from100 on August 08, 2016, 08:26:58 AM
I think that I understand the meaning of your chart now - it is one 180 spins session of following dozens as they come!
Maybe few more words about what is the meaning of few separate parts (were there zeroes?) and numbers?

Thanks

That chart has the ten possible "Finale" results included at the end of each line. This chart was based on the double zero American wheels. Two of my sets are based on pet sets of dozens based on positions in the wheel, like Kimo Li style only my own configurations. I'm showing the chart so that you can learn to see the trends the way that I see them. If you chart your own sets of spins you can learn to see all kinds of trends. If you want to beat the casino all you have to do is find a trend that continues and milk it for all that it is worth.

Are X's written in Matrix way, or in columns?