marks deal with a board member or was it a con??

[alrelax]

So tell everyone about the deal and promises you made the board member about the money mark.

[alrelax]

Come on mark I think the emails and info are exciting!!!!  Lol

[greenguy]

If I was Mark I would not bother answering this buffoon.

And for those who are interested in the truth, it's actually alrelax who is the piece of sh*t, not me. 

Green guy is biggest piece of shi* on this board plain and simple like I said we used to have about three or four of them at all they did was terrorized the board and Victor put a stop to it but the one is back and he needs to be moderated and full-time moderate it like it used to be is a real degenerate and I never say that about anybody but this is hundred percent fact and all he wants to do is be a piece of shi*. show me the contribution and show me the interesting posts that he wrote either technical or entertaining doesn't matter. In my book and I hardly ever say this he is a nasty terrible person thank you bye. actually no class none the same kind of person exactly when there's a 15 run Banker or player he'll come running over to the table and throw $10 at $20 yelling for it to cut while the whole table is nearing table Max and winning.say what you want to say your piece of shi* and that I swear to God.

>>> what a d*ck head, hahaha!

[alrelax]

he's the boards researcher with all his clinical brain related gambling decision-making research along with the roulette and he ripped off a board member for a good-sized money and it was a con I have to debate who to divulge the emails to and all the information his credibility is zero yeah he chastises and you Millie hates me most of the time actual postings sure I had some humorous and some comical things but I've deleted them last night I took out over 300 post and threads until Victor stop me.so make up your mind who you want to speak to and who you want to believe on the board as far as green guy goes he's simply an instigator like sticking his two cents into this one

[greenguy]

...as far as green guy goes he's simply an instigator like sticking his two cents into this one

I'll stick my honey bee in your wife's pollen flower if you're not careful. 

[Gizmotron]

Come on mark I think the emails and info are exciting!!!!  Lol

So you have the emails and the PM's?


So what. Go ahead and publish them. I could care less if I'm forever seen as hypocritical. I will have made the randomness characteristics known to everyone, given them names where names where missing, and backed up my life and decisions in the face of everyone that has seen me post on these forums.


You see buddy boy. I have the original discussions with the person you say was ripped off by me, and from the very start of any contact. It has already been proven that you will change what is written in a message. So if you do publish private emails and/or PM's, and you change a single letter or word, you will be the one with the sullied reputation.


Let's get one thing straight BOZO! I'm out in front of you and have always been out in front of you. I disclosed that I had focus issues for the past three years. I did this without your prompting for the past two months. It was so bad that I almost always lost every time I went into a casino. It does not prove that reading randomness does not work. The person I was working with started the process with dealing with issues I was having by opening a dialog here in PM's. I can't confirm anything but he was focused on it because we both have similar techniques and he had found some really good advice on the internet regarding self control issues. That led to him giving me money to move forward with. Not my usual 200 to 500 units but more than 2,000 units. I blew that money because of the self control issues. It didn't matter if more money was used to overcome down trends. I was going to lose it.


There is only one circumstance that I'm not proud of. I took the Turbo Effect concept a few months ago, wrote what I thought was an incredible computer simulation, and mentioned it to this mystery person. I even posted that I had broken roulette wide open on the forums. Until you have been a computer programmer you could not know how a mistake like this could occur. I put a computation, a single line of code, in the wrong place that dealt with the changes to a variable, but did it after the fact. The software still executed, it just did it with a false assumption. But I put it on the line anyway. I took the 1,500 units to the casino and got wiped out in three sessions. It was maddening. It should have worked. But it didn't.


When I told him what had happened he decided that I had intentionally ripped him off. This was the person that had helped me and all I had ended up doing was failing so badly that his conclusion was the only reasonable conclusion. He is the only person in my entire life that gave me money to gamble with.


The bottom line is that I did find the problem. I had decided to quit a month ago. I was never going to get ahead of my self control issues, even though I could win consistently in practice. But I openly published all this here in this forum.


I even went to the casino to see if I actually did fix the focus issues. I did. I'm going back to start my professional gambling period or end it. I've been beating this dead horse for three years.


I really believe that I have it now. Want to give me some more money? I found the problem. I went to the casino to find out. I have it now. I proved it to myself. I could use a grub stake. It will be harder on my own. If I do get things going I will gladly pay back the 1500 units. You figure out the way. I don't want this to end on dishonesty.


Alrelax has things he will have to live with for the rest of his life. Nothing can be done to help that man. At least that is what qualified experts have to say.  I can fix this between us though Mystery Man. And I want to thank you for putting me years ahead of where I would have been had you not involved yourself in my life. I needed to have those losses in order to find the problem. That last one was in pursuing an off topic method and doing it very badly. I was absolutely sure that I had the holy grail in a brainless, rule based method. Your experience is that I ripped you off. I just hope that it does not end like this.


I guess Alrelax has actually been a help. He has forced me to openly discuss my transgression. I'll have to find a way to resolve the issue.


Thanks Alrelax


I won't be giving gambling advice. If I can't win every time I walk into a casino to play, then I have no advice for others. When I practice my method, I win every time I play. This is not a condition of where I wrote bad code. I have published my playing method and practice results online. In other words, everything is there if anyone wants to make use of it or perfect it. I'm not selling anything and the school is closed to any new students. I wish that someone had given me this method instead of me having to save money and lose it in order to perfect it. It's been an interesting and exhilarating past 25 years.

[alrelax]

You know something Mark, I have not lied or mislead people on this board!!!!  At least outside of the humorous and comical, no matter how unintelligent, retarded or off-color those threads were---which i have started to delete last night until Vic put a darn halt to it!!  People, IMO--have confused some of the off-color/comical threads I tried to mostly bring out points and get interest going.  But that probably backfired too???

I go to numerous training seminars for my professional work world (Hazardous Materials Response) and some of the best seminars and courses is where the instructors or people in the audience bring out comical, off-color, off-the-wall agenda.  Seriously 100%!  But this board it appears those were held against me.  I was under the impression this board was like a newspaper (Vic--using this analogy because of your long Emails last night), if you don't want to read the sports, the household sections--trash them (SKIP THEM)!  Read the national and local news and the classified and the entertainment section, that is what I do.

As far as the editing and deletions of people's posts, those are not necessarily done by myself and they are done for the good of the board, appearance and keeping peace.  Right or wrong, things get moderated by various concerns, case closed on that one.

I did respect you for quite some time, it is just the other 3 or 4 people that have been permanently moderated and one appears to have had his moderated status lifted--that choose to humiliated, chastised, degrade and accuse the poster of a non-truth when they know absolutely nothing about the poster, have never et him or spent time with him and are not privy to the absolute facts.  Take for instance the score cards,  I put it on my 4 year old life and my parents that they were actual cards from live played games.  The problem is, many have little to no experience.  Personally i have seen nearly everything in baccarat and there will always be a bit of 'new' with results, stats, patterns, trends, wagering and production of winning and losing hands n a shoe.  Damn--just the other night, and i did not post the card I kept for the simple reason--i would be accused it was fake or altered.  Dealers dealing full time 5 and 6 days a week for 10 plus years and floor manager with 25 years experience on the floor did never see a shoe that happened the other night.  There was 20 ties, first 3 hands 3 ties back to back.  Then 7 players, then 2 more repeating ties.  Around hand 30 there was 8 banker run with 9 ties within that run!  Four of the ties were natural 8's.  There was 3 back to back Fortune 7's with 2 additional Fortune 7's late in the shoe and a Fortune 7 on the very last 77th, hand!  There was other things in that shoe as well.  But i never saw anything like it, add up another one to the experience book. 

But, I am tired of being accused and demeaned because of jealously--the need to start drama--false accusations--and a host of other things to fit a handful of people's agendas.  I have put in some hard work and time in this board.  I feel I got the extreme raw end of Stephen Tabone's appearance here and IMO and strictly IMO--his outline and depth and experience with the game leaves me not willing to spend $20 or $30 on the book---i rather buy my kids a bag of gummy bears and sweet tarts. 

When you have played this game a while you will have witnessed shoes that have chop-chopped the whole entire shoe all 80 hands plus some ties, you will have witnessed shoes that had an entire hoe of doubles, you will have seen a shoe or two that never produced one tie--not one.  You will have seen shoes with 17 to 20 ties, you will witness shoes with every hand cutting after a natural or every hand sticking after those naturals.  You will have witnessed shes with 1's and 3's for half the shoe, etc.  The list goes on and one and on.  Point being--systems and set protocol scheduled agendas.  They cannot and will not consistently prevail, they cannot.  If you win a few shoes you will lose and equal amount or greater.  That is not the say to prevail at this game.  But don't get me wrong and turn around what I said.  As, those systems will prevail 'sometimes'.  And that is the quagmire as to how systems can sell themselves, they sell themselves to players weak sides and unknown and inexperience.  What it takes to win at baccarat is not a system, it is money management, progressions, side wagers with parlays from win money, and attacking the shoe from all sides, not one side-one way.  The shoe will do everything with no conscious or thought or protocol for exclusivity of a set schedule.  Then, someone comes on here or elsewhere and preachers with distinct 'commercial and economic motivation' as to how some per-conceived set method can allow anyone to prevail for the long run.  The latest one has some disclosures that are generally not seen with other authors and that is the thing with the 75%/25% ratios and as well--the 'stop when you lose double your goal and make it up later'.  In reality that is no darn different than winning, putting some away, try more and then leave or, I lost and i will come back again to get whole.  What is the system?  Okay, other things. 

As far as you being out in front of me?  Whatever, seriously dude.  You have no clue about my life a my winnings or losing in baccarat.   I don't believe I voiced a definitive statement about you?  I might not agree with certain technical data or protocols, etc., but have i said and quantified anything about you?  Also slick the way you attempted to set the precedence about the emails with what I labeled a con-job or bad borrowed gambling funds, etc.  I never did really want to publish them and the 'other board member' pleaded with me this morning not to publish them.  But I clearly made my point, I feel.  Have i done stuff in my past, life and gambling I am not proud of and regret and would not repeat, SURE!  Have you, I only assume so.  But i have really tried to publish on this board the real and actual experiences i have had gambling with baccarat.  Most of the time, i get my butt kicked.  I can't defend something that is actual and real, it is what it is.  I won close to $30k on a shoe last week and my close buddy won almost $40k on that shoe.  I post a picture of the actual scoreboard with the pit manger standing behind me making sure i cropped the picture right to the edges of the score board.  Guess that is fake too???  That is what is so wrong on this board. 

And since you bring it up, personal wise and you have brought in my personal life and how you have definitively made the medical and clinical evaluations of me being disturbed, mental and other related things.  I work virtually 11 hours a day 5 days a week and half a day Saturday, I also do night calls in an emergency depending on the situation/job.  I support my family and i am very proud of my three kids that i have posted their pictures within my Blog.  I have also created events and worked desperately hard over the years to provide children with basic school supplies and hygiene products in school back packs for the extremely poor and underprivileged.  In fact, another broad member has helped me and I will publish his name here as I did in another thread, his name is LungYeh, if you don't know whom that is.  The person the Stephen Tabone had blasted for merely stating something simple and non threatening to him in his Blog.  That is another example of what is so wrong with this board.  Here you have a gentlemen that came on the board to promote his biased and unproven system and I get him to support the board and then he takes offense to members.  Does any of those things make me a better person than you, I don't know and doesn't really matter, but the things published by some people here about myself is so far from the real truth and accuracy, is it pitiful.  And, the silliest part is the people publishing it are not next to me and do not have the slightest idea what they are talking about.  But they publish those things with vengeance and malicious actions, point black   Oh lord, I used to own a restaurant or two in New York City.  You know what, every customer was correct no matter what.  A customer, a patron, a person in the restaurant no matter if spending money or not--was always right. No need to spar and argue or chastise or humiliate a customer or any person on the premise.  It is just plain wrong. That is IMO. 

Other message boards I am part of in technical and other avenues, people have a habit of skipping posts/threads and members they do not agree with.  It is common place.  But not here all of a sudden. 

Last night I deleted bout 300 of my posts and many threads.  I lost interest in the board and losing interest quickly as the days go on.  I don't feel any good here and that has nothing to do with being in the limelight as you so accuse me of in your other thread about Stephen Tabone.  I don't care anything about his book or his attempt to capitalize on it.  I wanted a neutral position and it didn't turn out that way. I told Victor last night I want to delete the majority of my posts and threads and be done with this board.  I meant it and although i had a slight change of heart this morning,  I cannot see continuing to pour information that is chastised, made fun of, accused as being false, fake and fraudulent, etc.  Seriously, my feelings.  I spend time on this board when i can because I rather be on it than watching news, you tube or a TV show that is not interesting.  I type super fast so a long article to many is a few minuets o myself to post.  There was even one time when certain people wanted to know how i can spend time on the board and type such lengthy articles, etc.  Se--that is what I mean.  If you are not interested in something, enjoy it, need it, learn from it---why even bother with it--you are actually just degrading yourself and wasting you own time to red my threads/articles and posts. 
 
Then there is GreenGuy that returned from permanently moderated status because Vic felt sorry for him.  He actually post horrible and derogatory remarks about my wife on this board and Vic or anyone else won't raise an eyebrow.  For example,"I'll stick my honey bee in your wife's pollen flower if you're not careful".  Sorry, there is no need for those things, it demeans the board and makes it a non-friendly place for all.  But I guess that is their humor and their way to satisfy themselves with attacking me for some reason.  The only reason I called him a piece of sh*t was in my opinion he is for what he has clearly down on this board.  I don't know anything about his personal or gambling life, don't want to and I don't believe i commented on those.  He is seemingly upset with me and he has degraded, humiliated and chastised me in numerous ways, there is no reason for it, none whatsoever.  And all he does is make this board a bit worse to be on and represent.  But he continually follows me on the board, comments on my threads and attempts to belittle me the best he can with his street lingo, street thug-ness and all without just cause or reason.  And they are not complaints they are clear violations of Victor's Rule #4, i believe it is.   

So what I see Victor endorsing is commercial ventures for sponsorship now.  Actually nothing wrong with that.  The majority of those sponsoring this board are reserved to their space, posting what those vendors/sponsors are selling and trying to make a profit off of and that is it.  However, with Stephen Tabone, he is engaging with personality into the board and as well, being an outlet that is used by various members to spar with myself and others.  I don't believe that should be done.  But, it is what it is.  If Victor wants a board with all commercial salesmen and vendors, he will get it I am sure.  I thought there was some kind of untouched community here without influence from the commercial sales world, but that is no longer the case.  It is just sad when those people with their biased and alternative motives cannot stay within their own realm, that is all.  They actual do represent two separate and distinct things.  Their product and their thoughts which can only be governed by the sale of their product. 

Giz, as far as you getting wiped out, I have taking large amounts of money to Vegas, Atlantic City, South Florida, Southern California and Connecticut to some of the largest casinos in the country.  I have won hundreds of thousands and I have lost straight without ever getting up and over my buy-ins.  That is gambling.  But, i don't believe and i am fairly certain i have NEVER blamed anyone on this board for my gambling losses when they occur or anything else, I seriously don't think so.  If I did, I did it in pun and humorous analogy.  Some of the things you say are quite personal, unfounded and untrue.  I don't know what else to say.  I tired to explain it to you.  I am tired of this board for lots of hose reasons I cited, not for lack of interest in gaming, baccarat,, people or events I face day-to-day.  It is just that i valued this board and most f the people and a handful of members nearly ruined it---that is 100% from my heart.  Thanks, Glen/Alrelax.

[Gizmotron]

You know something Mark, I have not lied or mislead people on this board!!!!  At least outside of the humorous and comical, no matter how unintelligent, retarded or off-color those threads were---which i have started to delete last night until Vic put a darn halt to it!!  People, IMO--have confused some of the off-color/comical threads I tried to mostly bring out points and get interest going.  But that probably backfired too???

I go to numerous training seminars for my professional work world (Hazardous Materials Response) and some of the best seminars and courses is where the instructors or people in the audience bring out comical, off-color, off-the-wall agenda.  Seriously 100%!  But this board it appears those were held against me.  I was under the impression this board was like a newspaper (Vic--using this analogy because of your long Emails last night), if you don't want to read the sports, the household sections--trash them (SKIP THEM)!  Read the national and local news and the classified and the entertainment section, that is what I do.

As far as the editing and deletions of people's posts, those are not necessarily done by myself and they are done for the good of the board, appearance and keeping peace.  Right or wrong, things get moderated by various concerns, case closed on that one.

I did respect you for quite some time, it is just the other 3 or 4 people that have been permanently moderated and one appears to have had his moderated status lifted--that choose to humiliated, chastised, degrade and accuse the poster of a non-truth when they know absolutely nothing about the poster, have never et him or spent time with him and are not privy to the absolute facts.  Take for instance the score cards,  I put it on my 4 year old life and my parents that they were actual cards from live played games.  The problem is, many have little to no experience.  Personally i have seen nearly everything in baccarat and there will always be a bit of 'new' with results, stats, patterns, trends, wagering and production of winning and losing hands n a shoe.  Damn--just the other night, and i did not post the card I kept for the simple reason--i would be accused it was fake or altered.  Dealers dealing full time 5 and 6 days a week for 10 plus years and floor manager with 25 years experience on the floor did never see a shoe that happened the other night.  There was 20 ties, first 3 hands 3 ties back to back.  Then 7 players, then 2 more repeating ties.  Around hand 30 there was 8 banker run with 9 ties within that run!  Four of the ties were natural 8's.  There was 3 back to back Fortune 7's with 2 additional Fortune 7's late in the shoe and a Fortune 7 on the very last 77th, hand!  There was other things in that shoe as well.  But i never saw anything like it, add up another one to the experience book. 



(NOT FINISHED YET--CHECK BACK PLEASE)

[Gizmotron]

I can't believe I've been sucked in by all this. The primary dysfunction of the Narcissist is to cause and thrive on conflict.


This all started in the past few days because of my private emails being handed to this malignant abuser. I'm still shocked how easily he became a global moderator around here. That was like feeding the pigeons to the cat.


This guy loves conflict. He lives for it. It's the real reason he is here.


My advice to any of you is not to be sucked into his game.


Ref: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/communication-success/201501/how-spot-and-stop-narcissists

3.  Don't Try to Change Them

Some people try to change chronic narcissists through time-consuming dialogue about their behavior. Such attempts are admirable, but often end in frustration and disappointment. With some deeply pathological narcissists, your efforts at arguing or conflict resolution actually feed their vanity, for you're giving them the attention and power they otherwise wouldn't possess. For certain socially deficient narcissists, in the absence positive feedback, provoking negative feedback becomes a wretched alternative, for any attention is better than no attention at all. To them, it's better to be disliked (which holds power and makes them feel superior) than to be a nobody.
Reasons for pathological narcissism are complex and deep-seated. A narcissist changes only when he or she matures and becomes more self-aware (often through difficult life lessons). It's not your job to change the person. The best way to deal with a narcissist is to set healthy boundaries, and take back the rein of your own life.

Ref: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/tech-support/201601/4-behaviors-unmask-narcissists

What I didn't understand at the time and do now is that the narcissist shows his true colors in conflict. That point is brought out with clarity by two new books on the subject, Re-thinking Narcissism by Dr. Craig Malkin and The Narcissist You Know by Dr. Joseph Burgo (both are also bloggers on this site), and borne out by my own personal experience. Both of these authors take the position that the narcissist is, in fact, emotionally wounded. The behaviors he or she evinces are efforts to disguise or assuage the pain of that wounded self.


It's in conflict—when even the healthiest among us becomes defensive and self-protective—that the narcissist reveals him or herself in fullness. They fully expose their lack of empathy—the cornerstone of the narcissist—because when the narcissist feels threatened, winning or succeeding to protect him or herself is all that matters, not consequences. A narcissist's focus and determination to win at any cost underscore the shallow nature of their emotional connections—to you and to all others.

So he has my personal information. He's already used Joe's Ice-cream stands as veiled attempts to show that he knew my addresses. He's a dangerous human being. I wonder if he has my SS # and my banking information. Homeland Security might want to inspect his other internet activities. I'm looking into this. I can't be the first person that he has managed to manipulate on the internet.

[Gizmotron]

Greenguy, I had to not approve your comment.


I might hate Narcissists and Co-Dependents but I admire Alrelax's tenacity as a Baccarat player. He is in fact a very talented player. You'll just have to take me as I am. I was raised by a massive Co-Dependent personality. I know this stuff inside and out. Co-Dependency causes millions of people to excel at things.

[alrelax]

I still love you mark!

As far as homeland security and such. Doesn't one have to hack and use the persons info in criminal ways?? I don't hack and I never did.  I have no idea what you are accusing me. It's all good I didn't go into your credit or bank. No idea how and I am not a hacker or fraud embezzler or anything of the likes of that is what you are implying,  have the FBI contact me.  No problems. I still love you!!!  Because we stopped at joes donuts and got some blueberry almond joy donuts a block from the ups maildrop I committed crimes??? Lol.

What about the baccarat players blowing the snot from their noses on the casino floor.  What is that  to you, releasing toxic waste in public?  Should I call the FBI homeland security the EPA and NASA on them???

[alrelax]

Mark,

Seriously.  I did read that article and to tell you the truth---what is your complaint?  Here let me give you and outline and some answers to help you, after all--who is more qualified then myself!!!! 

You have the right to be treated with respect.  (I always treat you with respect.  Also, I love  you!  I do admire you, just i don't like the clinical side of your research and the Chimp stuff into gambling.  But, I seriously don't have a problem with you.) 

You have the right to express your feelings, opinions and wants. (Absolutely you do--so do I.  But on a board such as this in the public forum or in our Blogs, you can skip mine--seriously and that is the other avenue some of our disagreements come from.  I know 100% in my mind what i want-how to gamble and what direction i should go in.  I DID NOT say or promise those were correct to ultimatum, i just said i know what to do.  I don't take advise from other and then blame them---as so many do, or---I don't criticize others for what they post unless it is sheer spam and garbage or a 100% conceived bet placement scheduled wagering system that IMO and my thoughts is the wrong way to approach baccarat, maybe other games, not baccarat. But I have that right to feel the way I do, the same as those people have the right to feel the way they do.)

You have the right to set your own priorities. (Absolutely, i never told you how to live or where to eat blueberry almond joy donuts, did I?)

You have the right to say "no" without feeling guilty. (Absolutely you do, I am not always correct, most of the time maybe--not always.  The same as you Mark.)

You have the right to get what you pay for.  (You do, and so do others no matter what the business deal is.  Also, if someone publishes a book and they invest money in what the author says, there should be some type of responsibility and repercussions, and that is where the book reviews come from, there is a reason behind almost everything in the business world.)

You have the right to have opinions different than others.  (We all do, I never said you did not.  But respect that and honor and cherish and value mine with all you energy and motivation, that is all I ask!!!!!)

You have the right to take care of and protect yourself from being threatened physically, mentally or emotionally. ( I never threatened you, I said what you did is not right in my book with the other on the board here, but we are going to bury that soon--right Mark??  You are far too smart to mess with Mentally or Emotionally--so we will leave those for those PHD Doctor of Creative Whatever in some foreign far-a-way land Long live the Queen of England!!!.)

You have the right to create your own happy and healthy life. (Mark, nothing more I want honestly, than you to strike it rich in a casino and we hang together and eat those delicious blueberry almond joy donuts topped with scoops of coffee and banana ice cream.  Coffee for me cause i love coffee and banana ice cream for you cause you have those intimate feeling thing for chimps and monkeys!!!)

So, have a great day and one more thing, chill out!