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Gizmotron

Quote from: Mike on June 13, 2018, 11:07:56 AM
But since the forum has a new owner, perhaps a review of the rules regarding advertising and/or selling might be in order? There are several members doing this, including Gizmotron who is now looking for more students. I quote : "PM me if you want private tutoring." -- Gizmotron. (https://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/for-those-who-think-house-edge-or-negative-expectation-is-the-sole-culprit/msg63571/#msg63571)


You are right that I should not solicit for new students. Minor problem though. It's people that know I closed the last school more than 6 months ago. They are contacting me to start another group. That might just be one person at a time or it might be a small group. But what is really happening is mostly your doing. It is because of you that I figured out that the math boys need to prove that the Global Effect does not exist and that it is clearly not an advantage in your view. The mathBoyz need to come up with the math that supports their opinions. Meanwhile, I'm going to dedicate this new group to excelling in the full awareness of the Global Effect. Any students will get the basics that give them a real chance to win first. Then a never before focus on just how the Global Effect acts, how often it occurs, and most of all how to exploit it to the fullest will be discussed and shown until each student is a living contradiction of your math claims. You guys take up the challenge or somebody else will. I'm coming for the mathBoyz. That includes you Mike.


There might become a new section here at this forum. That is clearly up to those who run it. The world is full of on-line tutors. Why not a real gambling method that takes real hard work in order to succeed. I'm teaching a skill. And guess what? I'm getting good at it. My software is designed to teach a person to see randomness opportunities. People have already shown that it is not some confusing snake oil. Randomness sometimes produces sequences that are just too good to be true. Why people don't seize these moments is mostly your fault. You are like the lemming whisperer. You are selling your opinions also. I charge a small amount just to get the truly interested and to make it private. You sell it because you actually believe yourself.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

Mike

Quote from: Gizmotron on June 13, 2018, 01:54:48 PM

You are right that I should not solicit for new students. Minor problem though. It's people that know I closed the last school more than 6 months ago. They are contacting me to start another group. That might just be one person at a time or it might be a small group. But what is really happening is mostly your doing. It is because of you that I figured out that the math boys need to prove that the Global Effect does not exist and that it is clearly not an advantage in your view. The mathBoyz need to come up with the math that supports their opinions.

Gizmo,

Us mathboyz keep delivering the math but you guys keep sending it back.  :bored:

So it's MY fault you're soliciting for students? LOL. Well I'm flattered that apparently my posts are so influential.  :-*

The "global effect" and other trends can only be seen once they've already happened, and unfortunately predicting the past doesn't put food on the table.

Gizmotron

Quote from: Mike on June 13, 2018, 03:15:25 PM
Gizmo,

Us mathboyz keep delivering the math but you guys keep sending it back.  :bored:

So it's MY fault you're soliciting for students? LOL. Well I'm flattered that apparently my posts are so influential.  :-*

The "global effect" and other trends can only be seen once they've already happened, and unfortunately predicting the past doesn't put food on the table.


Please give the math for the global effect. I'm waiting for that?


I thought you would like that. Well it's actually 12 years of "past spins can't predict the future."


"The "global effect" and other trends can only be seen once they've already happened," -- That's a nice slogan, phrase, antidote, axiom, etc...


To bad it is not true though. A sequence that lasts from 30 to 120 spins has a middle. To know this is true you must actually see the middle of one. You have seen one haven't you? Did you ever notice it in the middle of it occurring? You should look for it. It will boggle the mind for you to see it and then tell yourself it's not really there. I'm waiting for that equivocation. Why? Because I tend to see at least one good one every week.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

esoito

@ Gimotron

PLEASE offer Mike a free seat in your proposed tuition group.    ( Mike, PLEASE accept it if he does, and work through the whole course.)

Mike might even finally acknowledge the validity of your Global Effect. 

And then the rest of us can all heave a sigh of relief as peace finally breaks out.  ;)



Gizmotron

Quote from: esoito on June 13, 2018, 11:44:29 PM
@ Gimotron

PLEASE offer Mike a free seat in your proposed tuition group.    ( Mike, PLEASE accept it if he does, and work through the whole course.)

Mike might even finally acknowledge the validity of your Global Effect. 

And then the rest of us can all heave a sigh of relief as peace finally breaks out.  ;)


You are absolutely right. It's time to drop everything here. You have your peace of mind. Good luck.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

Mike

Quote from: esoito on June 13, 2018, 11:44:29 PM
PLEASE offer Mike a free seat in your proposed tuition group.    ( Mike, PLEASE accept it if he does, and work through the whole course.)

I think that was a "no" from Gizmo.  ;D

I would have done his course and given the methods a fair trial, using standard statistical tests. But what I would NEVER do is pay a penny for any such information.  Everything anyone needs to know is freely available in online stats courses, or just buy a good textbook. That will put you streets ahead of all the system players on forums, who are clueless and amateurish with regard to statistics and probability. If you like playing systems just create your own. If you want ideas then there are plenty of free systems on the forums; again, no need to buy anything.

Gizmotron

Quote from: Mike on June 15, 2018, 07:12:27 AM
I would have done his course and given the methods a fair trial, using standard statistical tests. But what I would NEVER do is pay a penny for any such information.  Everything anyone needs to know is freely available in online stats courses, or just buy a good textbook. That will put you streets ahead of all the system players on forums, who are clueless and amateurish with regard to statistics and probability. If you like playing systems just create your own. If you want ideas then there are plenty of free systems on the forums; again, no need to buy anything.


I wonder what sock puppet you really are here. But that does not matter. You can take my class. It's right here in front of you and it's been right here in front of you for years. All that is needed to know about the global effect is already published here for free. So you have no excuse. If you are smart enough to do the stats on this then you are smart enough to read what has always been right in front of you. Now run away and hide behind your lame pejoratives and catchy phrases like "fallacy." If you could have done it, as you just claimed, you would have done it.


This website has too many fake aliases running around pretending to be real people and making up useless conversations. A useless PM to me started the idea of starting classes again. Is life that boring that somebody needs to set traps? I'm done here. This place will likely fail. Better find a new forum where "fallacy" is the favorite troll word of the truly bored. It started out altruistic and is ending just like all the past failed gambling forums have ended. What's the stats on that Mike?
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

alrelax

Known members versus unknown members things are taking into a Different Light.

As far as selling something, a known member that's a real person, that has history here if that's what he does for a living or a legitimate sideline and he is known and has as a decent reputation along with that of his product, without giving an endorsement on behalf of the board, that's one story.  To me that's acceptable no matter who the member is.

Now if it's a person that signs on with no history or a few posts and all of a sudden he's selling some type of product or service and he never introduced himself and I don't know who he is and no references, entirely different picture and that is what's clearly not allowed.

And don't bring it where it's selective but it's an overall picture as to if it's a reputable member or an unknown member that's a possible scam. And again my board does not endorse any commercial product. And if I do endorse something, it means that I personally checked it out and I believe in it and I've done more research rather than just making sure the person is a reputable person and those are going to be few and far in-between, meaning the endorsements of commercial products or services on this board.

Thank you that should answer your question or concern.
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alrelax

Oh and by the way read rule number 6 it specifically says, without the express permission of the moderators or the administration of this board. And Mark has my permission.
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Played well over 36,951 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
Administrator & Forum Board Owner  of  BetSelection.cc
EMAIL: Betselectionboard@Gmail.Com

Gizmotron

It's good to know people are reading to the bottom line:

Cool. And since this thread is split out in happyville I will run the first legal ad for my tutoring business.

I really think that a small handful of posters here could tutor students and do a fantastic job. They have all addressed and discussed the need to overcome bad decision making due to human nature issues like greed and all its attachments.

It's not just a winning tactic and a better bet selection method. It's an entire skill and craft.

I have that skill and craft all figured out and organized as a simple teachable subject. I have software that takes you through to the level of success.



Online tutors get from $10 to $75 per hour. My instruction is a full course including a graduation requirement.

I'm actually going to teach individual students how to win and to prove it too. At the end they will need to go into a casino several times and execute the plan. If they do that they will prove to themselves that is works.

It will take at least 2 months at from 1 to 2 hours per day of my time, not including any student's homework study.

This time the students will be taken all the way. They will be winners with trade secrets of professional gambling.

It's going to cost too. At $25 per hour we are talking over $3,000. And I require the student to have a $5,000 playing bankroll that will be cut into 5 parts for sessions. That's $1000 per session of their own money for their own play. They will return from the casinos and send me pictures of their playing charts. We will both know what really happened.

I reserve the right to raise the hourly rate to $100 per hour on new students if I get busy with this thing. I realize that the total cost is less than the cost of a single bet for many gamblers. I just want to see what a small tutoring business can produce. This time I want proof. I want to see each student prove that they were really taught. Each student will have a plan.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

Gizmotron

Mike said something about his world of assumptions and how he knows what I would have said. So I tortured his claim and removed it. Thanks for the heads up Mike.
"...IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW OF AVERAGES." 

Gizmotron


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If you want to be a professional gambler you should read this full article.
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  • Persistence
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  • Being comfortable with adversity
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alrelax

You know, on a side-ways affiliated note to education/training/workshops.  I have a wall full of certificates, completion awards and also certificates of achievement, all related to mostly paid courses of one type or another.  Benefiting off of any or all of them would solely depend on one's ability to use--translate--pick & choose--find areas of concern and interest to your needs, etc., then expanding your knoweldge with what was taught/instructed/brought to light, etc. 

If you cannot do something along those lines, you can sit in any university and stay there for 4 or 8 years, learn and become 'book-smart' and get a degree and yet--some high school kids might be able to our perform and out think you every day of the week in a certain profession.  Maybe those high school ks will not know advance trigonometry or calculus or some history of a great 1600's world leader or other university level items, but that does not preclude those high school kids from actually knowing more and performing better than the 4 or 8 year university graduate that sat there and learned, but failed to apply and use the bulk of what was taught to actually bridge the gap between 'schooling/education' and real-world application and interfacing with profession/career, etc. 

Same with gaming/gambling/casinos/seminars/training.  What Mark has to offer might open a path, that would allow someone to actually discover something he was unable to even recognize actually exists or is needed to formulate something that might very well help him be profitable or more profitable.  Mark might not teach in verbatim, 'how to win'--he might just be able to offer some smart player that is searching for ways to explore the roads, where the roads are, what are the roads, etc., to be profitable or more profitable?  Maybe, huh?

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THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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Gizmotron

Actually Glen I will teach them to win. I don't mean win sometimes as some kind of gimmick. I mean win to the point of becoming a professional gambler. I will make students get the experience needed to be successful. I will teach them to read randomness, to see opportunities, to exploit the global effect, and to swing trade like a day trader in the stock market. I can do all this because you don't need a mathematical edge to beat a negative expectation game. Students will learn how to redefine the long run. Actions will speak louder than words. And it's to my advantage that most people believe that you can't win. Over the past month we all know that the casinos make 5 to 10 times as much more than the house advantage off of gamblers. It's in their tax returns. 4% to 5% would not keep the lights on and pay for the extravagance and all the overhead. All you have to do is look at the yearly earnings reports for publicly traded casinos. The myth of the house edge is nothing but a con job supported by math geeks trying to focus only on a bet selection's chances. There is nothing out there in the world about monster trends, that while occurring, tend to demolish the odds. Yet these things in the stock market are a dream come true.


Not only is all this possible. It's teachable too. It's time to market to the day trader / swing trader crowd. Only 20 people have my AI software. Nobody has my Even Chance software.
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