Quote from: Gizmotron on November 30, 2015, 08:00:59 PM



.....x....xxxx.xxx...xx..
xx.x..xxxx....x...xxx....
..x.x..................xx

Jim what Giz is saying is that he tracks the dozens horizontally and that this chart above reads like this for the dozens

2232312222111121112221122

Quote from: greenguy on December 02, 2015, 03:53:32 AM
It's all Greek to me.

If it was Greek to you, then you would be complaining that stealing other people's money isn't enough to meet your needs, that your elected government has failed you.

Are you specially impaired? A dot means it didn't hit in that dozen of the set. An X means that it did hit in that dozen of the set. This is an example of a set: 1-12, 13-24, and 25-36. A spin can only fall in one dozen of any set at a time. This process of charting is known in the gambling world, on discussion forums, as communication. This chart is an attempt to communicate an idea to its readers. You do understand that this is a chart of 100 spins don't you? Perhaps you are viewing these charts on a very small screen and the line returns are messing the charts up? They look great on my laptop.

Quote from: Big EZ on December 02, 2015, 06:28:55 PM
Jim what Giz is saying is that he tracks the dozens horizontally and that this chart above reads like this for the dozens

2232312222111121112221122

Yes, I try to use any kind of chart that reveals a pattern or dominance through visual dexterity. You can see a pattern or a dominance without having to reason it out. Even this is better than as one single un-pronounceable word:
22 3 2 3 1 2222 1111 2 111 222 11 22

  That does help!  These methods are easy if you know them.  Try to explain them . . .  another story.  I've written two "manuals" for Baccarat play.  Granted, one was a bit complicated and took me 20 pages to explain it along with visuals.  The other was easier but still took a little doing before it could be understood by the uninitiated.

Quote from: Jimske on December 02, 2015, 07:10:50 PM
That does help!  These methods are easy if you know them.  Try to explain them . . .  another story.  I've written two "manuals" for Baccarat play.  Granted, one was a bit complicated and took me 20 pages to explain it along with visuals.  The other was easier but still took a little doing before it could be understood by the uninitiated.

OK, let me try to explain a kind of parlaying type of an option. Let's just say that you are hunting for a sleeping dozen streak. Let's see how hard it is to explain a concept.

Say you go for the second sleeper in a row in a set of dozens, example 1-12. Let's say that that dozen slept once. So you bet enough on the other two dozens on the next spin that a win will allow you to bet 2 units on each dozen the next time for free. So I bet 4 & 4 on dozens 13-24 and 25-36. It wins. The sleeper holds up. 1-12 did not hit. Now you can try for a seven step parlay. 2-2, 3-3, 4-4, 6-6, 9-9, 13-13, and 20-20. These seven steps are at no risk. You have taken 8 units and converted the win into 4 units, at no risk for later bets, in just one spin. All you need is 7 more sleepers or singles in a row. That's no risk to make 60 units.  Eventually you are going to hit seven in a row. It happens all the time.

Now let's see if that is understandable. Others can explain it all in other terms perhaps, just to see.

example ?

Quote from: ice789 on December 03, 2015, 06:46:17 AM
example ?

That's one vote for not seeing it by written description, in other words, without an example, perhaps.

How about you or someone else creating an example from the description.

Giz...

As far as your example it is very clear. Please don't let the topic die 


3 bet for d3 to sleep 8 times
1  W 4-4
1  W 2-2
2  W 3-3
1  W 4-4
2  W 6-6
2  W 9-9
2  W 13-13
2  W 20-20


My questions...

You say it happens all the time. How often in 100/200/300 spins does a dozen sleep for 8 times in a row?

If my math is correct does this mean there are 1,251,677,700 different 12 number combinations that can be made from 36 numbers?  How many combinations have you created to play in a casino environment, if you don't mind sharing

Quote from: Big EZ on December 03, 2015, 05:59:15 PM
You say it happens all the time. How often in 100/200/300 spins does a dozen sleep for 8 times in a row?

If my math is correct does this mean there are 1,251,677,700 different 12 number combinations that can be made from 36 numbers?  How many combinations have you created to play in a casino environment, if you don't mind sharing

As far as the example of the 100 spin chart there are at least 10 locations from the 4 sets of three dozen possibilities from above that have 9 sleepers in a row or more. I track 12 different dozens, six are table layout bets and six are from two memorized sets and placed as inside layout bets. To be clear, a set is 36 unique numbers to bet from at a time.

Gizmo,

Using just the posted snapshot of your chart, how many times does a dozen sleep for the required 8 spins?

I can see only 1. 

Quote from: greenguy on December 03, 2015, 08:04:51 PM
Gizmo,

Using just the posted snapshot of your chart, how many times does a dozen sleep for the required 8 spins?

I can see only 1.

If you guys can't track dozens and columns and see sleepers in those spins then I feel sorry for you.

Quote from: Gizmotron on December 01, 2015, 09:16:49 PM
The trick to taking advantage of these few opportunities is in positioning yourself first by not getting way behind in the session before reaching these opportunities in the first place. I know how to stay at even real easy. That skill must be learned first. 50/50 bets are great for this purpose. Attacking a sleeping dozen that sleeps from 15 to 30 spins in a row is easier still.

I hope you like these simple aspects of the game even more.

I like this statment very much.

Cheers

Hey Greenguy. What's red and sits in the corner?

Answer ( a baby chewing on razor blades, )

Hey Greenguy. What's green and sits in the corner?

Answer ( same baby a week later, )

Quote from: Gizmotron on December 04, 2015, 07:17:38 PM
Hey Greenguy. What's red and sits in the corner?

Answer ( a baby chewing on razor blades, )

Hey Greenguy. What's green and sits in the corner?

Answer ( same baby a week later, )

Yeah, well all I can say is that's very poor parenting.. lol

could there be a way of differentially betting all 3 dozens  or 2 dozens to find the one winner that sleeps 7 times