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[Bally6354]

This is a very interesting thread regarding Ladbrokes and Bet365 trying to discourage the arbers. It is proving profitable to follow.

http://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29510953/365-and-laddies-stoop-to-new-caped-crusader-low?pg=1

[esoito]

Thanks for that.


As an aside -- Ladbrokes...not happy with them!

I've just been emailed that they are closing all Australian accounts next month as they will no longer operate in Australia!

No reason given. Just a bald statement.

I'm left wondering why and who'll be next...

[VLS]

In an ideal world every country would have a state-run casino with the infrastructure to offer online betting to their citizens.

If they are scared of offshore internet casinos, then the answer is "Embrace and Extend".

A state-run wagering house offers both the state their so-much-sought-after gambling-related income (not only taxes) as well as convenience to the punters.

Of course, land-based casinos would push against them, but... "Everything that can go digital will..." 

[esoito]

 "Everything that can go digital will..."

Yes, indeed.

I've tried feeding the wife by email.

Sadly, she's losing condition... but I'll get it right eventually.   

[subby]

"Everything that can go digital will..."

Yes, indeed.

I've tried feeding the wife by email.

Sadly, she's losing condition... but I'll get it right eventually.   

Genuine LOL at that 

[Bayes]

Interesting. There's a lot more scope for corruption in laying rather than backing. After all, it's almost impossible to fix a race so that a horse wins, but how hard is it to make sure it LOSES and get away with it?

[esoito]

Regarding that last question, Bayes, one of Australia's leading jockeys, Damien Oliver, was recently in VERY hot water over a bet he placed on a competing horse in one of his races.

A definite no-no to that sort of behaviour because he would have made darned sure his horse didn't win. He was riding the second favourite.


Former Western Bulldogs footballer and now form analyst/punter Mark Hunter placed the bet of $10,000 on Oliver's behalf on Miss Octopussy with Queensland bookmaker Laurie Bricknell.
The $2.30 favourite, Miss Octopussy won while Oliver rode second favourite, who finished sixth. Stewards have no issue with the way Oliver rode his mount. There was no departure from the usual racing pattern or any other reason to call the ride into question.
Having incurred legal costs at the time, Oliver placed this one-off bet, receiving $11,000 in profit on the wager. Oliver said it was the only time he'd ever placed a bet on a rival horse.
[Source:  http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/damien-oliver-breaks-down-at-stewards-inquiry/story-e6frg7mf-1226520217239 ]

[Bally6354]

It would appear that Ertikaan is not going to be very busy in the 14.00 at Lingfield this afternoon. I will be laying it to win a few pounds.

[Bally6354]

I think it's fair to say that was a definate non-trier.

Drifted from 13/2 out to 10/1 a few minutes before the race and it finished nowhere. 

Laddies knew about that one. 

[subby]

I read that whole thread, lol. How do you bet for it NOT to win or come in/place?

[Superman]

How do you bet for it NOT to win or come in/place?

By placing a LAY bet @ betfair

[esoito]

I read that whole thread, lol. How do you bet for it NOT to win or come in/place?

Subby

Here's a link to explain how lay betting works on Betfair:

http://betting.betfair.com/education/the-site/what-is-lay-betting-2-300111.html

It gives a useful overview of what it's all about.


Laying the favourite is quite popular (after some suitable filtering, of course) and Job Burgess has written a very popular, and widely-acclaimed  ebook about how to apply suitable filters:

http://www.false-favourites.co.uk/

[subby]

 

[Bayes]

Actually, there was always a way to lay horses even in the pre-Betfair era. You just bet every horse to win except the one you wanted to lay, using dutching.

[Bally6354]

The lay today is 'Bubbly Bailey' in the 13.35 at Lingfield.