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Sputnik

 
EXTREME
This is my baby.

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How to cover 24 unique outcomes with only 15 placed bets.

Lets take clustering patterns into lines of three.
Principal of 1/3.

This is 8 unique combinations/patterns.
I can cover all possibilities for each pattern.

1. BBB
2. BPB
3. BPP
4. BBP
5. PPP
6. PBP
7. PBB
8. PPB

This is banker and player patterns.

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From scratch ...
Lets say you get a pattern with three outcomes.

BBB

This is three banker in a row.
Now i don't want more banker patterns to show.
This is because we are betting against all four banker patterns to show.
This is how the look like.

BBB
BPB
BBP
BPP

So when i have a banker pattern i will bet player next.

BBB
B

I lose my first bet and get one more banker.

Now i bet that next outcome will match my previous pattern, i aim for a repeat.
Then i need BB to hit to be towards BBB.

BBB
BP

I lose my bet.
I got a player, now i know that the banker pattern can not repeat with three banker, as i have banker and player as result.

We wait for next outcome to see what two patterns we will get.

BBB
BPB

Next i don't want any more banker patterns so i bet player.

BBB
BPB
B

I got a new banker pattern, now i will bet that one of the previous two patterns will repeat.
If i get BB i will play BBB and if i get BP i will play BPB.
That way i will catch a repeat.

BBB
BPB
BPP

We lose our bet and we got no repeat of the two previous patterns.

We got a new pattern to show and now we have three unique patterns that start with banker.
Next i don't want a new banker pattern to show so i bet player.

BBB
BPB
BPP
B

We lose the bet.
Now there is only one banker pattern left that could make that all four have a show each with no repeat.
The pattern looks like this.

BBP

Now we have following patterns.

BBB
BPB
BPP
B

Now we have two banker patterns that start with BP and they are BPB and BPP
So if we wait for next outcome to show and it is BP then we can not play for a repeat for BPB or BPP as they both already have a show.
So we have to bet before next decision show and play P as then we would catch one of does two patterns if they would repeat.
Same would be if you had two patterns who begin with BB.

BBB
BPB
BPP
BB

We lose our bet and no repeat of the two patterns i mention above BPB and BPP

Now we only have last bet for BBB to repeat.
If not then we have all four banker pattern to show once each.

BBB
BPB LL
BPP LL
BBP LLL

And we lost all bets.

Now we don't want all 4 player patterns to show once.
So out next bet will be banker.

BBB
BPB
BPP
BBP
P

We lose the bet.
Now everything repeats in the same way and you prevent all 8 possibility to show once with out any repeat.

BBB
BPB LL
BPP LL
BBP LLL
PPB L
PBP LL
PPP LL
PBB LLL           

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This is about that a dice with 8 sides will repeat at least once and not show each side once with no repeat.
A dice with 6 sides has 98.2% to repeat at least once during 6 throws (one cycle) and 2.7% to show each side once with no repeat.With 8 sides you get higher probability favoring you, maybe 99% vs 1% ...
And the march or algorithm also capture zig zag ...

Now on topic.
You could see how you could betting against 4 formation to show once each with 4 bets, as i describe above.

BBB
BPB LL
BBP LL
BPP LLL

That is a total of seven bets.This could have been 4 player patterns, but with this example 4 banker patterns.
Now you don't want 4 unique patterns that begin with player, after having 4 unique banker patterns, so next you only bet once for banker to continue and avoid player patterns to show.


BBB
BPB LL
BBP LL
BPP LLL
PPP L

Now you have 4 unique banker patterns and will play that you won't get 4 unique player patterns.Just repeat the formula above.

BBB
BPB LL
BBP LL
BPP LLL
PPP L
PBP LL
PPB LL
PBB LLL
 

Sputnik

 
Just look at the LW-Registry.
I attach files from random org.

2 1 2
1 1 2 W
1 1 2 LW
2 1 1 W
2 2 1 LL
1 1 1 W
1 2 2 LL
2 2 2 W
1 2 1 W
1 2 2 LW
2 2 2 W
1 2 1 W
2 1 1 W
2 1 1 LW
1 1 2 W
1 1 1 LW
1 2 2 LL
1 1 1 LW
1 2 2 LL
1 1 2 LL
2 1 1 W
1 2 1 W
2 2 2 W
1 1 2 W
2 2 2 W
1 1 2 W
2 2 1 W
1 2 2 W
1 1 1 LL
2 2 2 W
2 2 1 LW
1 2 2 W
2 2 1 W
1 1 2 W
1 1 2 LW
2 2 2 W
1 2 2 W
2 2 2 W
1 2 2 W
1 2 1 LW
2 2 2 W
1 1 2 W
2 1 2 W
1 2 1 W
1 2 2 LW
2 2 2 W
2 2 2 LW
1 1 2 W
1 2 1 LL
2 2 2 W
1 1 2 W
1 2 2 LL
2 2 1 W
2 2 1 LW
2 2 2 LW
2 1 1 LL
2 1 2 LW
2 1 2 LW
2 1 1 LW
1 2 1 W
2 1 2 W
1 1 1 W
1 2 2 LL
1 2 2 LW
1 2 1 LW
2 1 2 W
1 2 1 W
2 1 1 W
1 2 2 W
1 2 2 LW
1 1 2 LL
2 2 1 W
1 1 2 W
2 2 2 W
1 1 1 W
1 1 2 LW
2 1 1 W
2 2 2 LL
2 2 1 LL
2 1 1 LLW
2 2 2 LL
2 2 1 LL
1 1 1 W
1 1 1 LW
1 1 2 LW
1 2 2 LL
2 1 1 W
2 2 2 LL
2 2 1 LL
1 2 1 W
2 1 2 W
2 1 2 LW
2 2 2 LL
1 2 2 W
2 2 2 W
1 2 1 W
2 2 2 W
2 1 2 LL
1 1 1 W
1 1 1 LW

Sputnik

Advance and deeper into equilibrium

As you can see we play against 4 banker patterns or 4 player patterns depending on what the first pattern is.
We bet against that all 8 will have a show each and its around 1% chance that will happen or 99% that we will catch at least one repeat.

But this method also use the law of series with a underlying march.
When we play for opposite to prevent all 4 to show with banker or player patterns.

PPP
P
BP
PBB
PPB

And

BBB
BPB
BPP
BBP

Does two is also a 50/50 distribution.
And we have for example 1000 singles and 500 series of two and 250 series of three and 125 series of four.

So both repeats and the law of series contribute to the high strike ratio.

Follow the betting flow

2 1 2
1 1 1 W... i see banker pattern and play it will be player pattern and i won
1 1 2 LW... i have player pattern and play it will become banker patterns and lose, then i have 111 and will bet for a repeat 11 and won.
2 1 1 W... i have a player pattern and will play it will become a banker pattern and i win
2 2 2 LL... i have a banker patterns and will play for a player pattern, i lose and will bet for a repeat 21 and lose again.
2 1 2 LL... i have two banker patterns and will bet for a player pattern to show, i lose and play that one of the two previous banker pattern will have a repeat and i lose.
1 1 2 W... i have three banker patterns and will bet for a player pattern and i win.
1 2 1 LL
2 2 2 W
2 2 1 LW
1 2 2 W
1 2 1 LW

VLS

Quote from: Sputnik on June 03, 2014, 11:49:24 AM

EXTREME
This is my baby.

Thanks for sharing it with us  :nod: :thumbsup:

Good posts.
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-- Victor

RouletteFan

Thank you
Good post as usual
very interesting

foreverbob

Very nice post, Sputnik.
I recall Ego was about to try Star Progression upon this.  :thumbsup:  I've been experimenting with this progression a few years ago.
This pattern idea may very well work with the rider idea.
Have you tried it out already?

Bob

Sputnik


I have one tweak with this method where you only place 11 bets and cover 24 unique trails or 8 patterns.
But my head is spinning around in circles when i try to explain the method for my self, wish would make it very hard to explain in public.

Next i will try to explain how you cover 24 unique trails with only 11 placed bets.


Sputnik


Covering 24 unique trails with only 11 bets.

You can pick any pattern of three.
With this example i use the following.

BPB

Now there is two patterns that match this formation XOX - does are banker pattern BPB and PBP.
So no matter if player or banker show next, so will i play for a repeat.
This means i will play BP or PB.

This mean i only place one single bet to catch a repeat of same pattern or same formation.

BPB
B

Here i would play player as i mention above.

BPB
P

Here i would play banker as i mention above.

I lost the bet and got a new pattern.

BPB
PPP

Now i wait for two outcomes to match one of the two previous patterns.
If i get BP or PB i will play BPB or PBP - the XOX formation.
So it does not matter if there is a banker or player next.
If i get PP or BB i will play PPP or BBB - the XXX formation.

All this with one single bet.
To catch that one previous pattern or formation will repeat.

BPB
PPP
BPP

We lose our bet and got a new pattern to show BPP - a new formation XOO.
WOW we place two bet and got three unique patterns to show.

Now we wait for next outcome and it does not matter if it is player or banker.

BPB
PPP
BPP
P

Now we will bet that one previos pattern will repeat or that one formation will repeat.
We have two patterns or formation that begin with BP and BP ... they are BPB and BPP.
So our first bet it to catch one of does two.
We got player and have to play banker next. PB and hope that they will become XOX or XOO formation/pattern.
If the two dominant would have been PP or BB then you would play PP or BB next.

BPB
PPP
BPP
PP

We lost again and only place one single bet.
None of the patterns/formation repeats.

Now we only have one match left with PPP to become BBB or formation XXX.
That is one single bet.

BPB
PPP L
BPP L
PPB LL

We lose and get 4 unique patterns or formation with no repeat.
It does not matter what banker or player patterns that show, you only place 4 bets to catch at least one repeat.
They can only be 4 unique formation or patterns with no repeat if you lose all 4 bets.They can only be 4 unique formation or patterns with no repeat if you lose all 4 bets.They are 4 unique patterns or formations if you lose all 4 bets.
They can only be 4 unique formation or patterns with no repeat if you lose all 4 bets.They can only be 4 unique formation or patterns with no repeat if you lose all 4 bets.They can only be 4 unique formation or patterns with no repeat if you lose all 4 bets.
Now comes the grail.
Now you prevent the other 4 unique patterns to show.
But i have not solve that algorithm yet.

Sputnik


Example with today random org file - did not catch 4 loses with method above - 300 trails ... 2014 06 03
Amazing how effective this method is ...

1   1   2
2   2   1 W
1   1   1 W
1   1   1 W
2   2   1 W
1   2   2 L
1   2   1 L
1   2   2 W
1   2   1 W
2   2   1 L
1   2   1 W
2   2   2 L
1   1   2 L
2   2   1 W
1   1   2 W
1   2   2 L
2   2   2 L
2   2   1 W
2   1   2 L
2   2   2 L
2   1   2 LW
1   1   1 L
1   2   2 L
1   2   1 W
1   1   1 L
1   2   2 L
2   1   1 W
1   1   2 L
2   2   2 L
1   2   2 LW
1   2   1 W
1   2   2 W
1   2   1 W
2   2   1 L
2   1   2 W
2   2   1 L
2   2   1 W
1   2   1 L
2   2   2 L
1   1   2 W
1   1   1 W
1   1   2 W
2   2   1 W
2   2   2 W
1   1   2 W
2   2   1 W
1   2   2 L
1   1   2 W
2   2   1 W
2   2   1 W
2   2   1 W
1   2   2 L
1   1   1 L
1   1   1 W
2   1   1 L
2   2   2 W
2   1   2 L
1   2   1 W
2   2   1 L
1   1   2 W
2   2   1 W
2   2   1 W
1   1   1 W
2   2   1 W
1   2   2 L
2   1   1 W
1   2   2 W
2   1   1 W
1   2   1 W
2   1   1 W
1   2   2 W
1   1   1 L
2   1   2 L
2   2   2 LW
1   1   2 W
2   1   1 L
1   1   1 L
2   2   2 W
2   2   2 W
2   2   2 W
1   2   1 L
1   2   1 W
2   1   2 W
2   1   1 W
2   2   2 L
2   2   1 L
1   2   2 LW
2   2   1 L
2   1   2 L
1   1   2 LW
2   2   2 W
2   1   2 L
2   2   1 L
1   1   2 W
2   1   2 L
1   2   1 W
2   2   1 L
2   1   2 W
1   2   2 W
1   2   2 W

Sputnik


It was a few years ago that this "Birthday Paradox" was talked about, so my memory might be a bit off.
What Scott observed is that if you have a room with people & ask "what day were you born on?" you will get a few 7's, a few 10's etc.
You will not get singles with only one person born each day like  1,2,3,4's etc for the room ...

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Methodology:
What is present tend to repeat.
Among new outcomes you have sleepers.

Conclusion:
I rather bet for what already has a show, then betting for new events, as they have sleepers among them.

Sputnik

  I finally solve the last part of the betting march or algorithm.

It is based upon previous situation that will determine how to bet, it is not mechanical.
As you can see with my explanation above, so can the banker and player patterns come in any combination.
All we know is they will have no repeat, if we get 4 loses.

The situation depends on equilibrium and some times you only have to place one single bet to get one repeat.
With other situations you might place two bet and at most  three bets as your final bet to cover 24 unique trails.
This is less then 15 bets.

AsymBacGuy

Bingo!

Despite we are using more complicated classifications, this is-more or less-the philosophy to beat the game.
No jokes.


as.
Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)

Luckyfella

I specifically made the last trip to local landed casino dedicated to test your system and the result is as impressive. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:  Very convincing and stable with shoe after shoe.


Reviewed the results again today, make a few tweaks with set stop loss to defend against potential uncertainties and will head to casino to do it for real tomorrow. Hope not to get unlucky.

Sputnik

Quote from: Luckyfella on June 06, 2014, 11:07:06 AM
I specifically made the last trip to local landed casino dedicated to test your system and the result is as impressive. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:  Very convincing and stable with shoe after shoe.


Reviewed the results again today, make a few tweaks with set stop loss to defend against potential uncertainties and will head to casino to do it for real tomorrow. Hope not to get unlucky.

Cool ,, how do you play the method ... what kind of progression do you use?
Cheers

Sputnik

LOL

Update:

Read this words:
Situationally betting system - a non mechanical system - sequential betting method ...

I solve the optimal algorithm to play this method.
Look at this LW-Registry:

LWLWLWLLWWWLLWLWLWLWWLWLWWLWWWWWLWLWWWWWWWLWWLLWLLLWWLW

3 loses once during 300 trails.
There is no triggers of bet selections, it is sequential betting following how the random flow unfold.


This is how Situationally betting looks like:

1 1 2
1 2 1
2 2 2
2 1 1
2 2 1 L
1 2 1 W
1 2 2 L
2 1 1
2 2 2
2 2 2 W
2 1 2
1 1 1
1 2 1
2 2 1 L
1 2 1 W
1 1 1
1 2 2 L
2 2 1
2 2 2 L
1 2 2 W
2 2 1
2 2 1 W
1 1 1
1 1 1 W
1 2 2
1 2 1 L
2 1 2
2 2 1
1 1 1 LW
2 2 1
2 1 1
2 2 2 L
1 2 2
1 1 1 W
2 1 2
1 1 2 L
1 1 1 W
1 1 2 L
1 1 2 W
1 2 2
1 2 2 W
1 1 1
1 2 1 L
2 1 1
1 1 1 W
2 2 2
1 1 2 L
2 2 2 W
1 2 1
2 1 1
2 2 2 W
1 2 2
1 2 1 L
1 1 1
2 1 1
2 2 2 W
2 2 2 W
1 1 2
2 2 2 W
2 2 2 W
2 2 2 W
2 1 2
2 2 1 L
2 1 2 W
2 1 1 L
2 1 1 W
2 2 1
1 2 1
1 1 2
1 1 2 W
2 2 2
1 1 2 W
2 2 1
1 2 1
2 2 1 W
2 2 1 W
2 2 1 W
2 2 1 W
2 1 2
1 1 1
2 2 2 L
2 2 2 W
1 2 1
1 2 1 W
2 2 2
2 1 2
1 2 2 L
2 1 1 L
1 2 2 W
2 1 1
2 1 2 L
1 2 1 L
1 1 2 L
2 1 2 W
1 1 2
1 1 2 W
2 1 2
1 1 1 L
2 1 2 W
2 2 2

I will try to explain this non-mechanical method based upon the principals mention in this topic.