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[esoito]

Just a thought...

Over 150 keen members here.

Goodness knows how many years of playing experience between us, plus high levels of expertise -- not to mention all the testing as well!

So why couldn't we all put our heads together and come up with consistent winning method or strategy we could all merrily use?

Surely there's enough expertise here.

[Or are there already too many egos who think they're right and everybody else is wrong, and the project would be dysfunctional before it even started?

Nah. Surely not! ]


Like I say, just a thought.

I'll go back to the pipe now...and dream on...

[spike]

So why couldn't we all put our heads together and come up with consistent winning method or strategy we could all merrily use?

Of course it's a pipe dream. Who in their right
mind would invent a winning method and then
share it with the world? It would cease to be
of any use almost immediately.

[ignatus]

Well, only thing I know to have a long term winning system one must aim for events that are bound to happen all the time.


For single numbers the only event (that I know) that is bound to happen alot (Or all the time) is repeating numbers.


So, I believe the key to a long term winning system is focused on repeating numbers,(or Hotnumbers - numbers repeating most -) recent numbers in spin history that may even be hotter than hotnumbers (they will repeat)


So, If we can focus our attention on this event that is bound to happen all the time and build a clever system around it we all be rich pretty soon! 


I did afew experiments with Juggler and Total Recall etc. (they work very well) But these methods need to be perfected,


The most successful system in my opinion is Catch the 8 train (that is based on hotnumbers).


I think it's important to not only focus on hotnumbers.(hotnumbers can also sleep) But also recent numbers in spin history. A combination of both hotnumbers and recent numbers in spin history would be perfect.


Question is how many numbers should be included? For this kind of system I think no less than 9. (I have flatbetted 10 hotnumbers with great success.)


 

[MarignyGrilleau]

Of course it's a pipe dream. Who in their right
mind would invent a winning method and then
share it with the world? It would cease to be
of any use almost immediately.

[esoito]

Of course it's a pipe dream. Who in their right
mind would invent a winning method and then
share it with the world? It would cease to be
of any use almost immediately.

Why would it "...cease to be of any use almost immediately."

What cold, hard, irrefutable evidence do you have to support that bold assertion?

Or if it's simply your opinion then why do you think that?

[TwoCatSam]

Esoito

I have to tell you the truth:  If I found a long-term winning system, no one would ever know it.  I haven't, so it's a moot point.  However, I enjoy trying and that's enough for me.

But let's consider a few members of this or the "other" forum:  Bally and Superman.  Bally is winning right and left in his challenge.  Superman says he has play around 2,500 spins at BV without a loss.  Skakus is closing in on #10,000 with his system.  Johnlegend is going to make casinos cry by June.  Look at Ralph and his bot.  Wins to the point it must bore him silly!  Who did I leave out?

Well, there's lil' ol' me!!  Hey, I won a dollar today.

Samster

EDIT:  I left out ignatus!  He wins constantly.  And Proof.  Every system he tests wins 80 or 90 units EVERY time! 

[ignatus]

I think you missed the point I was trying to make about a long term winning system. Repeaters and hotnumbers is the key.


Sam my current bankroll is 0 $ and to tell the truth i never won playing for real. Sad truth.   


Although I love roulette and inventing new systems.

[Ralph]

Of course it's a pipe dream. Who in their right
mind would invent a winning method and then
share it with the world? It would cease to be
of any use almost immediately.

If it possible for many to grasp it, it will be of no use very soon. The casinos will find a way to deal with it, they have to do it to stay in business. Have we not seen slight changes in rules on line over the time?   

[Superman]

Superman says he has play around 2,500 spins at BV without a loss

That's 2,500 sessions Sam, not spins, a session lasts about 20 to 30 minutes normally.

It's not a consistent winning method, it has losses but increasing bet size or holding is the key, I wait sometimes for a few spins to clear some awkward runs too.

[Bally6354]

If it possible for many to grasp it, it will be of no use very soon.

This is the truth!

It is my belief that they are probably loads of roulette players around the world winning with strategies that they have developed themself!

Are the casinos worried?

NO!

Why not?

Because they know that the methods are not the sort of thing that 95% of regular players are going to be able to replicate.  Most gamblers are just that....'gamblers'.

Another thing is people like Skakus have told everyone what they do. It's there in black and white. He can't do any more than that. I noticed someone asked him the other day if he could put all the rules in one post. The rules are already in the thread. So this guy is even too lazy to read 11 or 12 pages and study something which Skakus may have spent the best part of a few years in his spare time perfecting. It really does beggar belief.

I am in the 'johno' camp nowadays. It is already out there.The people with the right attitude and determination will find what they are looking for.

My sunday rant is over.  [attachimg=1]

[Albalaha]

I think you missed the point I was trying to make about a long term winning system. Repeaters and hot numbers is the key.

Exactly,
            You can look for an anti-variance bet this way. Not 100% but mostly.

[Robeenhuut]

This is the truth!

It is my belief that they are probably loads of roulette players around the world winning with strategies that they have developed themself!

Are the casinos worried?

NO!

Why not?

Because they know that the methods are not the sort of thing that 95% of regular players are going to be able to replicate.  Most gamblers are just that....'gamblers'.

Another thing is people like Skakus have told everyone what they do. It's there in black and white. He can't do any more than that. I noticed someone asked him the other day if he could put all the rules in one post. The rules are already in the thread. So this guy is even too lazy to read 11 or 12 pages and study something which Skakus may have spent the best part of a few years in his spare time perfecting. It really does beggar belief.

I am in the 'johno' camp nowadays. It is already out there.The people with the right attitude and determination will find what they are looking for.

My sunday rant is over. 

There is nothing to replicate. Its so easy to blame laziness if somebody does not win with your method. 

[Bally6354]

There is nothing to replicate. Its so easy to blame laziness if somebody does not win with your method. 

It's nice to see the trolls visit here as well! 

[Bayes]

Another thing is people like Skakus have told everyone what they do. It's there in black and white. He can't do any more than that. I noticed someone asked him the other day if he could put all the rules in one post. The rules are already in the thread. So this guy is even too lazy to read 11 or 12 pages and study something which Skakus may have spent the best part of a few years in his spare time perfecting. It really does beggar belief.

Bally, is this something Skakus has posted on rouletteforum.cc? He did a challenge a while ago with some software I provided, and did very well, I'm just wondering if it's the same system.

[Bally6354]

Bally, is this something Skakus has posted on rouletteforum.cc? He did a challenge a while ago with some software I provided, and did very well, I'm just wondering if it's the same system.

Hello Bayes

No! That was his E/C method!

This one is called the 'Barrycentric Binomial Benefit method' (I hope he copyrighted that)

He has another called the Texas Sharpshooter as well!

He sure likes to keep busy! 
 
(They are posted on C.C. although I think the E.C. one is a bit of a mystery)