Quote from: esoito on November 04, 2013, 10:25:24 PM
In post #189 Sam asked some very pertinent questions about this so-called CWB that remains shrouded in mystery -- if it exists at all, of course.

The major question is: what is meant by a Consistent Winning Bet?

Interesting to note nobody has seriously attempted to answer that and his other questions.

As he asks, if you don't know what you're looking for then how will you know you've found it?

Without a general agreement on what a CWB really is, then participants here are probably simply moving the deckchairs around on the Titanic.

[It might be easier to find a CLB...]

Dear esoito,

I know what you mean. But if you put yourself in the person shoe who has the CWB, you will understand. Actually we should be thankfull that CEH, Shikamaru and Razor gave us these clues.

Quote from: Razor on October 31, 2013, 06:32:40 PM
What kind of question was that?
When I say I play everyday how can I be down?

The life time BR is only 50 chips.

The bet passed the 30 sessions test as it should so how can it not do the same while playing?

Nothing can pass the 30 sessions test flat bettinf if its not a CWB.

If the bet you have can pass 30 sessions test (flat bet), then it is a CWB


Regards,

NoBody

Quote from: Francis on November 04, 2013, 10:37:35 AM
Why have you not consider a double dozens OR double columns bet?


Clearly if it got to do with movements on the table layout, it is safer to have a double dozens OR double columns bet.

Yes..you are right... the bet doesn't limit to only one dozen or colomn...it could be 2 dozen or 2 column + ECs..

Regards,
NoBody

Quote from: NoBody on November 04, 2013, 10:12:49 AM


 

   
• What is the trigger to bet?
• What to bet? (How many bets? How many units?)
• What happen if the bet loses?
• What happen if the bet win? (are we in profit? if not, what do we do next?)
• How to end the session?

3. What happen if the bet loses?

   
• You should really focus on the formula that contains 3 bets and find out when you alter bets in order to TRAP THE RUNS AND THE CHANGES
• "Zero is a loss".....it was a major clues because it affects the formula
• Find the formula...find where to change from the part 1 to 2 and to 3 ... it is obvious that a loss will make the part to change.
• When you are testing you will realize that the 3d part of the formula must be played in order to make the consistent losses(at some point of the playing) ,consistent wins...and then part 1 or 2 again
• This simple means that in every 100 placed bets you will be close to 0 (+5 or -5 in the end etc.)
  And with the adding of the 4^th chip you will have a winner
• i gave them my play by play (down 3 units, down 2 units, up 2 units, etc)

Summary3:
If Zero hit = loss
3 spin in total
Part 1, 4 chips
Part 2, 4 chips
Part 3, 4 chips (profit)


4. What happen if the bet win? (are we in profit? if not, what do we do next?)

   
• You should really focus on the formula that contains 3 bets and find out when you alter bets in order to TRAP THE RUNS AND THE CHANGES
• Find the formula...find where to change from the part 1 to 2 and to 3 ... it is obvious that a loss will make the part to change.
• When you are testing you will realize that the 3d part of the formula must be played in order to make the consistent losses(at some point of the playing) ,consistent wins...and then part 1 or 2 again
• This simple means that in every 100 placed bets you will be close to 0 (+5 or -5 in the end etc.)
  And with the adding of the 4^th chip you will have a winner

Summary4:
Total 3 part (Part 1, 2 and 3)
3 spin (Part 3) = 100%


5. How to end the session?

   
• 30 sessions the 1 or 2(the most) is allowed to lose less than 10 chips in the end
• no more than 2 placed BETS(meaning 2 betting spins) are being used before being in profit.

Summary5:
1 Session = 3 spins

Quote from: NoBody on November 04, 2013, 10:12:49 AM

2. What to bet? (How many bets? How many units?)

  2. What to bet? (How many bets? How many units?)
 

   
• bet is 4 chips on every spin and that the bet includes a Doz and a COL ...INCLUDES ...it s not the hole bet
• You should really focus on the formula that contains 3 bets and find out when you alter bets in order to TRAP THE RUNS AND THE CHANGES
• RX flashes the doz-col-B-R-O-E-L-H of the last spin and is a huge help in finding the bet.
• Only the flashing thing that RX has is helping in spotting the movements.
• On every spin observe...observe the movements
• RX is easier to SPOT the movements ...the hard part is to spot the correct ones because on every spin a lot of movements are happening. RX not only will help you find those movements but it will also make your life easier in testing the bet.
• Open RX and inset a spin file of real Casino spins. Spin and observe the movements that are happening on the dozens and on columns( I ain't gonna say particularly look on the Doz or look on the Col...I have already said enough...it's your business to find what the triggers and formula is)
• Observe of a movement that is NOT happening as much as it should
• Then try to trap this by trapping the opposite
• the formula -  arrange the 4 chips correctly in order to make the bet a CWB
• The bet does not have 2 parts... It has 3
• The hard part is the 4^th chip where to be placed...but when you will have found the formula with more work you will find where this 4^th chip must be placed
• With just the 3 chips you will have found a bet that is not winning but it's not losing either
• However when a column bet is combined with other bets, 3 other bets to be exact, and when it is part of an exactly planned session following an exact formula you have created, then you now have created the dream odds and its definitely better than the EC bets
• All I said was that you need to create a bet that INCLUDES a column, a dozen, or maybe even both. The word INCLUDES means that the column, dozen, or column dozen combo is not the whole bet, but just part of it.
• i narrowed down the bets that could be used to only 8
• The life time BR is only 50 chips.

Summary2:
4 chips = 4 places = Ecs + Col + Doz
Flat bet
(3 chips = even – no win no lose, 4^th chip = win)
3 spins = profit

Quote from: NoBody on November 04, 2013, 10:12:49 AM

 

   
• What is the trigger to bet?

   
• What is the trigger to bet?

   
• The trigger of the bet are NOT on the Ecs
• Do not care what the movements are doing on the inside bets...the triggers are not on the inside bets
• Knowing what is the last doz or col or Ecs can t help you because only 1 spin is NOT a movement.

Summary1:
The trigger is "movement" of Doz/Col or Doz & Col (must be more than 1 spin)

Quote from: Carlitos on November 03, 2013, 07:21:00 PM
...... wow Mr. Nobody i think you have read my post.....








Carlitos 

Lol...long time no chat bro...

Still looking for the grail? If there is a grail..with our efforts...we will find it... If there is no grail..yeah...it was fun looking for it...

So..back to the CWB...

Let me post the questions:

   
• What is the trigger to bet?
• What to bet? (How many bets? How many units?)
• What happen if the bet loses?
• What happen if the bet win? (are we in profit? if not, what do we do next?)
• How to end the session?

Dear Forum,

It has been ages since I last posted. I am still interested in finding a winning bet but almost gave up.

I came accross this topic and manage to read Shikamaru's post in GG.

He did tell the below story:

[reveal]".....junket king and turbogenius were the first ones to strike at me for supporting charles, and quite quickly like in 3 hours or less.

i think a day or so after that, loadsamoneyalf agrees with them. of course when i first joined and posted i left out the fact that i knew the bet.

i waited till three weeks later to drop the hint that i know the bet.

spike, loadsamoneyalf, gilly, turbogenius, and junketking all pretty much went silent, probably due to shock. then all of a sudden on the same day crappy himself comes crawling along to ask me for help. oh yeah alan and rob were also against ceh.

let me tell you that when i saw that he registered on june 9, 2009 he immediately became a source of endless entertainment. with the five fools who went silent and now the same exact day i mention knowing the bet we have a "newbie" interested in my bet.

what a coincidence. couldn't be that crappy has around 7 different aliases could it? i mean its just a coincidence that the other idiots are silent and now there are some newbies....."[/reveal]


I believe there are clues in the story. 
spike, loadsamoneyalf, gilly, turbogenius, and junketking = 5
crappy, alan and rob = 3

"...the following events were not a coincidence..." "....what a coincidence. couldn't be that crappy has around 7 different aliases could it? i mean its just a coincidence that the other idiots are silent and now there are some newbies...."


Regards,
NoBody

Dear Vic,

Happy belated birthday!

Wish you all the best and may all your wishes come true.

Regards,

NoBody ^.^

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on November 04, 2012, 05:46:56 AM
Ok, hot topic for you...

Let's say 3rd Dozen hit twice in a row.  While any dozen or zero may hit on the next spin, is it possible by looking at past percentages (from say 200, 300 or more spins) one dozen may have an advantage over the other two? Law of the Third? or Gambler's Fallacy?

Coming to think of it, I believe I have misunderstand Proof's question.

Analyzing 200, 300 or more spin will show the trend/ statistic of the table irregardless of the dealer.

Not sure if 200 or 300 data is sufficient to show a bias.

Yes, advantage play does exist.

Sorry for the confusion I made in the previous post. 

Regards,

Nobody ^.^

Let's say 3rd Dozen hit twice in a row.  While any dozen or zero may hit on the next spin, is it possible by looking at past percentages (from say 200, 300 or more spins) one dozen may have an advantage over the other two? Law of the Third? or Gambler's Fallacy?


My view on analyzing past spin to predict future spin will only work if the dealer, wheel, ball and other factors related to the table has no major change.

Same dealer, ball, wheel...the trend/prediction can only relate.

However, back to your question, past percentage of 200, 300 or more spins? The dealer most probably will not be the same, thus my view is that the trend or future spin may defer due to the change in the factor.

Regards,

NoBody ^.^

Dear all,

Bet = Aiming

Money management/progression = Force/Shoot

Shooting with accuracy hits the target.

Shooting without aiming, you need luck.

Aiming without shooting, brings you no where.

We need the right bet selection with a suitable money management.

Regards,

NoBody ^.^

Dear all,

It is defintely not smart to predict when a particular number will hit.

But I am saying the certainty of a repeat.

In 4 spin, there will be at least one colour which repeated twice (either red, black or green)

In 5 spin, there will be at least one dozen which will repeat twice (either dozen 1, dozen 2, dozen 3 or zero)

In 38 spin, there will be at least one number which will hit twice or more (100%)

But which colour? which dozen? which number? when?

If it only repeat on the last spin, can we still profit?

It fascinates me, but annoys me because I am nowhere near a bet/system yet.

Regards,

NoBody ^.^

Dear Forum,

Straight to the point:

Find something that is certain and not random in roulette.

Random = not in control

If I can find certainty, I can control and manage the risk.

I don't have a system nor a bet.

I am amazed when I heard of the pigeonhole theory.

A repeat will 100% happen (certainty) in x spin (certainty)

But I have yet to find a way to utilize this certainty to my advantage. 

Hope this can spark something.

If not, we leave it as another not working idea.


Regards,

NoBody ^.^

Dear all,

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." by Thomas A. Edison

Enjoy the process and don't be frustrated. 


Regards,

NoBody ^.^

Dear all,

I have learn about the GUT system back in the old VLS forum.

Let say we come to a trigger where 18 unhit vs 18 hit:

There are 2 outcome that could happen on the next spin.

1. 18 unhit vs 18 hit (because one of the hit number repeated)
2. 17 unhit vs 19 hit (one of the unhit number hit)

Which outcome has a better percentage of occuring?

Does the unhit numbers have higher percentage to move to hit group on a particular spin?

Just my view on past result affecting future outcome.

Regards,

NoBody ^.^