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Started by Bally6354, March 08, 2016, 11:46:45 PM

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RouletteGhost

i for one would love to see how you bet on the american wheel

i have access to 15 airball american wheels

i find that column 2 and 3 (due to layout) have higher streaks

at the end of the day it evens out....but when 2 and 3 streak, THEY REALLY STREAK

see attached image of tonights session.....whered column 1 go?
QuoteBecause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

Blue_Angel

When I was at Vegas I was able to find American wheels from 0.25 inside/ 5$ total at Downtown and there was even with 0.1 at Henderson, Nevada.
European wheels are offering only a handful of casinos and their table limit starts from 10$ (total), but 25$ is the average and on weekends or private rooms reaches 100$ per spin.
In other words at Vegas is much more easier to play on American wheels.
''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

XXVV

Fantastic work and the videos are a great idea!  You will attract great attention.

I was particularly intrigued by your late night subsequent  thought however on the absent 2 Doz, and the impact that has on Cols 2 and 3, B and R.

I conducted a quick test on my last live session ( yesterday) and used a  trigger assumption ( crude I know)  to bet for same as last in colour and thus load both Dozens ( 1 and 3)  together with the one preferred column based on colour expectation.

My 100 spin session peaked at  +28 units and finished +18.

I always see spectacular results from the first test of an idea, later to be squashed, but this was a great result. I will try it out on previous sessions later tonight.

My wonder was how you might suggest framing an attack. Please do not respond in public if this is confidential for you.

Best
R.

Bally6354

Hello Richard,

This idea of the 6 vs 2 is just something I quickly thought of yesterday and will need to spend some time looking into it. Your test results sound promising. I will be putting some money into my online account tommorow and will have a few videos up by the weekend regarding the 00 Wheel play.

Cheers
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Blue_Angel

Bally,

I've used your system on RX and it's one of the most resilient! :thumbsup:

''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

XXVV

This idea is possibly one of those break even bets ( perhaps capable of further development), especially if you can run an independent account to manage zero. My sample of course was ridiculously small but after 30 spins it was at the session high, and later was clawed back by zero appearances and some headwinds. The principle though is fascinating because if your goal is modest/ realistic you could accept say even +10 units quite happily while on the right side of the ledger, or if not you could anticipate a swing back. However empirical testing would need to prove that 'balance'.

To me the reason for this working ( any wheel) is the resonance/ skew of colour dominance to column if you can find a way to reinforce the positives and mitigate the negatives, ie do not bet on the mid dozen.

I suggest research might simply observe results, past or live, without real money risk exposure at this stage. As I say early results can be seductive.

Now it may be more efficient therefore to bet straight up the numbers ( and therefore implicitly the associated colours) rather than the relative inefficiencies ( less exact) of the dozens and columns.

I will compare the results from the same session playing this way and will provide the spins in due course.

Thanks for your very interesting thoughts Bally.

XXVV

I will post the approx 100 spins so others can test but this was a live session at my boutique casino earlier this week.

Following Bally's brilliant idea of focus target on the column colour skew this modified approach targets the 6 numbers.

High was at +148 units two thirds through and final result was +40 as the corrective balancing  tide swept back in

This session was balanced in R/B dominance but was imbalanced through both 0 and 00 appearances ( losses) with 6 appearances in 100 spins. The bizarre arrangement here is that it is a Euro wheel but 00 is placed between 5 and 10. This rapid roulette live table has this 'tax' applied but for $5 tables when open the standard Euro wheel is used.

So this 'headwind' was adverse but we still showed a profit which says something about the value of this idea. However I emphasise this may be just an aberration, so take due care.

With an independent flat stake bet put on 0-00 for every spin that would have resulted in +22 extra units.

Here are the spins... and the key assumption trigger is dominant last spin colour to repeat

22
34
33
29  hit
30
30  hit
14
9    hit  etc.....
8
4
20
15
11
0
23
6
35
21
19
34
19
8
27
00
35
26
27
7
11
24
32
25
00
32
36
21
26
29
33
8
5
18
16
33
22
13
27
27
18
7
11
16
2
6
24
11
8
33
26
12
20
12
4
23
2
20
00
17
21
3
30
2
11
31
4
14
1
6
27
0
18
20
27
28
25
35
23
0
27
2
20
14
19
22
27
21
25   

97 spins

RouletteGhost

there's a profitable way to spit at the end of the table and just play columns

I know there is

Just have to pin point the exact bet selection
QuoteBecause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

RouletteGhost

Quote from: Bally6354 on March 09, 2016, 06:59:24 PM
Here is the text which RG is talking about. I was going to put it in the first post with the 'Number 6' quote because readers will probably be wondering who 'Bob' is...but it was pretty vague.

Anyway, here it is....

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that's the one

this guy, if only playing columns must have had a certain bet selection.....i have static bet each column.....i have tried to crack this....betting 2 columns at once no dice

but i do notice when column 1 streaks its few and far between.....when 2 and 3 streak jump on it
QuoteBecause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet and you bet big, then you take the house.

Blue_Angel

What if we make two combinations of bets?

1) Red, Odd, 2nd column

2) Black, Even, 3rd column
''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

XXVV

Here is the result of a second test of the 'missing dozen' theory from Bally, with only 6 numbers targeted as already explained, so for clarity I will refer to it as Bally6 and has nothing to do with the very exciting work mentioned earlier here on the US wheel layout flaws.

Bally6 as I am playing it is volatile, so has great variance. However in shorter sample of 54 spins it produced a net +22 units, peaking at +82. The downside is risk exposure to strings of losses. This session peaked at +82, had an early low of -72 and finished at +22 after nine consecutive losses. However of course if well ahead, take profit ahead of inevitable re-tracement.

Session 3 was RNG at the casino today with 70 spins and end result +72 units, peaking at +84 and initial loss -24. Ironically this was a single zero wheel/ program and the zero result was a net +2 units.

Session 4 was a ripper this afternoon.

34 spins 0-00 wheel with 5 hits in the zeroes.

Overall result -18 units, worst -78, and best +0,  but the zero game earned +112 units

I played live another strategy and targeted the 24- 5-00-10 wheel section using WF and big final hit on 00 which triple appeared.

So overall so far, good results but be prepared for up to 15 or more consecutive losses.

Blue_Angel

If you are worrying about losing streaks just stop after 1 loss and continue when your selection hits again.
''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

Albalaha

Quote from: Blue_Angel on March 11, 2016, 05:51:59 AM
If you are worrying about losing streaks just stop after 1 loss and continue when your selection hits again.

A choppy session would always bring ONLY losses if we do that.
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Mike

I don't get it. Why would anyone want to play the 00 wheel when the house edge is double the Euro wheel?   ???

The fact that you may have discovered some "interesting" correspondences between the wheel and the layout doesn't make any sector more likely to hit than any other. I can't see why this is "exciting". Somebody please enlighten me.

Blue_Angel

Quote from: Albalaha on March 11, 2016, 06:43:27 AM
A choppy session would always bring ONLY losses if we do that.
LWLWLWLWLWLW


That's true but you do recognize  that there are better bet selections and not everything is the same, right?
''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal