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Started by Blue_Angel, September 21, 2017, 12:51:20 AM

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Blue_Angel

Of course when you bet only 1 number you have no time issue but not everybody bets like this.
Speaking about edge it comes only from selection, not the progressions and the money managements!
People who claim otherwise they know stuff about what's going on...yes, I'm using progression but it's not the reason I win regularly.
Last but not least a tip for you Victor because I like you, since you are playing a single number you should know that none of them endures long term but all of them do...;-)

Cheers, to your success!
Or should I say: e viva est mucho alegria!
''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

VLS

Quote from: Blue_Angel on September 29, 2017, 03:25:17 PMEvery single spin from all sessions was bet

Hello dear Angelo, my very personal point of view here (perhaps we need a separate thread for these replies).

I feel comfortable with live wheels in general because you are betting alongside a pool of bettors.

There are instances of some live wheel video feeds shared among several casinos. How can the live wheel operator target you specifically?

Of course, I'm not ruling-out other ways to cheat outside tampering with the live feed (i.e. not accepting bets on time, denying payout) but I'm very careful about calling "cheat" on a live casino wheel these days.

Again, I'm just expressing my very personal point of view based on my personal experience. As mentioned above, I'm using a single-location method which bets every spin after the initial number-collection cycle happens; that's likely relevant to your continuous-betting remark.

In my case, after the location-adding & filtering takes place, only one number is picked. Perhaps this qualifies as "Low profile" by itself... just a player betting on a hunch(?)... The selection process even uses a degree of randomness for locations with "equal weight" on the timeline for the current spin, so no single session is equal.

I feel comfortable the casino isn't after me as I'm not specifically betting a preconceived pattern.

The casino isn't the enemy: No casino means no opportunity to bet my friend.

Live casino wheel is my favorite. I'm actually grateful for them setting up this opportunity: to play an actual physical wheel from the comfort of home in my houseclothes, mind you :)
Email/Paypal: betselectiongmail.com
-- Victor

Blue_Angel

Ok, I got your point but, the live feed doesn't show how many others (if any) are betting simultaneously, what bets, what amounts...even at a B&M casino when you can see with your own eyes all these you could be "targeted".

Proving such activity is from very difficult to impossible, let me ask you a question, let's say you have tested a method for 48,640 bets approximately and BR lost only twice during all those bets, how would you feel to lose your BR on the 2nd day of your visit at B&M airball roulette?!

Would that made you suspicious, feel that something is wrong, odd...??
That was a real incident for me when I was betting for any number to hit 3 times within 37 spins.
From the same B&M casino I had witnessed similar situations with other 3 methods...!

I'm just trying to explain what I've experienced, whether it's extreme bad luck or cheating is something I'm not 100% certain because I've no evidence but only indications, I cannot initiate a legal case with just my word and indications.

All these and other milder misfortunes enraged me up to the point which I sware to myself to find the ultimate strategy in order to take a share of their money almost at will.
I take cheating very, very seriously, not only because of what I've experienced but also because of my principles/mentality.

PS The single number method which you've mentioned Vic deserves more attention and its own thread.

Buona fortuna e salut las voluptuosas chicas!;-)
''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal

Bally6354

Blue Angel, here in the UK, there are two main players in the casino industry with venues up and down the country. Grosvenor Casinos and Genting Casinos. I have personally known one of the General Managers from one of these casinos since the early 90's. He is an infrequent gambler at the opposition venue and he plays airball roulette. Now I am pretty certain that if there was any skulduggery going on with these machines, this GM would know about it and he certainly wouldn't be wasting his money on them from time to time. Is every country different depending on regulations and who controls the industry? Who knows but I can't see it myself.

cheers
Sometimes it is the people who no one imagines anything of who do the things that no one can imagine.

VLS

Quote from: Blue_Angel on September 29, 2017, 05:01:42 PMOf course when you bet only 1 number you have no time issue but not everybody bets like this.

I know, hence the emphasis on it being what I've experienced.

The method is actually the Roulette Betting Tool. An evolved one. I'm not developing it any longer. Some players expect too much from one number to be honest. Losing a session bank shouldn't be a catastrophic event. This possibly deserves a thread of its own. Losing some consecutive cycles can be even thought as normal and expected. You wouldn't cry foul on red or black skipping 6 spins -three (3) even chance cycles- but people call "garbage" when not hitting a proportionally-conservative amount of spins in cycles.

I stopped "peddling" it to others. I'm not going back to large numerical coverage for real money. I post new approaches and methods for public consideration yet my approach is already set. Can't refine to a lesser coverage from one number :)

As to the money management, it's the 75% Money Management.

It allows for an organic growth of your unit value while losing minimal-unit banks when things aren't rosy.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on September 29, 2017, 05:01:42 PMSpeaking about edge it comes only from selection, not the progressions and the money managements!
People who claim otherwise they know stuff about what's going on...yes, I'm using progression but it's not the reason I win regularly.

I'm with you to a certain extent. I've experienced carefully-crafted money management schemes making a difference, but still agree full consideration is needed as to when to place your bets.

In my view, I would say it's the COMBINATION of both a conscious bet selection + a conscious money management which can make a true difference.

Recently, there was a small revival of interest on Bayes' "distributions" view on which you participated. I'm with Bayes too. When you have the bet selection that fits the ebb and flow required for a certain money management, magic happens.

"Win more when winning, lose less when losing". This has been said by other members in the past. I recall Albalaha/Sumit evangelizing on it but nobody paid a deserving attention.


Quote from: Blue_Angel on September 29, 2017, 05:01:42 PMsince you are playing a single number you should know that none of them endures long term but all of them do...;-)

They cycle. Yep.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on September 29, 2017, 05:01:42 PMCheers, to your success!

Angelo, I'm a recreational player because I don't have the "physical advantage-play certificate" Bias or VB players have, but I consider myself as "doing right" on the game. Since my goal is to beat my "lifetime actuals" spins, I don't need to worry about the rest of spins appearing out there.

I'm happy and focused on beating the very set destiny throws my way :)

Quote from: Blue_Angel on September 29, 2017, 05:01:42 PMOr should I say: e viva est mucho alegria!

Cheers to you too :thumbsup:
Vic
Email/Paypal: betselectiongmail.com
-- Victor

VLS

Quote from: Blue_Angel on September 29, 2017, 06:40:47 PM
Ok, I got your point but, the live feed doesn't show how many others (if any) are betting simultaneously, what bets, what amounts...even at a B&M casino when you can see with your own eyes all these you could be "targeted".

I get it too! To me, the only times I the "ghost of being targeted" is when betting with an engorged unit. But even at those times hits come exactly as they should.

It's a live wheel, not an RNG.

I look at it this way. Winning is a deviation on expected losses & "mushrooms" run out. They have to end since winning deviations can't last forever.

When losses catch-up in clump/concentration you better be giving back the least.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on September 29, 2017, 06:40:47 PMlet me ask you a question, let's say you have tested a method for 48,640 bets approximately and BR lost only twice during all those bets, how would you feel to lose your BR on the 2nd day of your visit at B&M airball roulette?!

Would that made you suspicious, feel that something is wrong, odd...??

No Angelo. "Anything that can happen will happen". Remember luck is measurable. As a player, I would be more concerned about me experiencing bad streaks on my personal set of actuals across several wheels.

The long run evens-out everything. 3 hits per cycle is an event we all targeted.

Learning not to try being invincible can be a hard lesson to learn; you know you're there when it doesn't matter wether you win or lose a session since you're prepared for the natural events of the game.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on September 29, 2017, 06:40:47 PMI'm just trying to explain what I've experienced, whether it's extreme bad luck or cheating is something I'm not 100% certain because I've no evidence but only indications, I cannot initiate a legal case with just my word and indications.

All these and other milder misfortunes enraged me up to the point which I sware to myself to find the ultimate strategy in order to take a share of their money almost at will.
I take cheating very, very seriously, not only because of what I've experienced but also because of my principles/mentality.

You're a persistent fellow so you have the #1 requirement nailed to achieve your goal (Just don't be blinded and learn to pressing when you have to press and "letting go" when you have to :) )

Quote from: Blue_Angel on September 29, 2017, 06:40:47 PMPS The single number method which you've mentioned Vic deserves more attention and its own thread.

We had in the past. Former versions covered way too many numbers and entered into what a fellow forumer Mrs called "panic mode" (due to the current numerical filters not being in place). Now, this evolved version is just a very discreet profit-sharing venture some close friends enter and exit from.

You can have a shot at it of course.  You would do as many tests as you want independently. Hey! If you have some time to burn we can set you up as long as you report in the open. It may spice things up around :)

I'm not against others using it as long as it's via discreet profit-sharing. We can always use a bit more $ sponsored by casino winnings.

(If you see it isn't suitable for you, then nothing happens; there's no money lost of course since testing amicably is obviously granted for free)
Email/Paypal: betselectiongmail.com
-- Victor

Blue_Angel

QuoteIn my view, I would say it is the COMBINATION of both a conscious bet selection + a conscious money management which can make a true difference.
Vic

This sums it all for me, well said Victor!  :thumbsup:
''For after all what is man in nature?
A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either.
The ends of things and their beginnings are impregnably concealed from him in an impenetrable secret.
He is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness out of which he was drawn and the infinite in which he is engulfed.'' B.Pascal