It also has plenty to do with your background, if you can account for where you pulled the cash from (your legit personal or business bank accounts, sale of car/house or whatever) then shouldn't be a problem.  But if your engaged in drugs, O.C., etc., or received it as a courier for drug people, organized crime figures, etc., people under surveillance and you walked into the picture and so on then there might be problems. 

I have been through airport security plenty of times, post 9-11, TSA went through my carry on briefcase or duffle and unzipped a small business bank bag I carry with anywhere from $25k-$50k and never once said anything.  Of course I could defend any questions with it being pulled out of my legit bank accounts. 

Many times I just wire it to the main property I will be going to/staying at and then pull it out either at the table by signing markers against it or simply at the cage, walk up and present ID and request whatever I desire in cash.  Completely normal and standard protocols.  Casino hosts like it that way anyway, because you agree 'XYZ' Front Money, if your not playing on credit markers, etc.  Casino hosts agree to various levels of RFB&I. 

But yes, if you are illegal citizen status, no tax returns and engaged in criminal activity or money laundering of various forms, there is a need to be worried.

But at all the B&M properties I play at, of course you can absolutely wager just B or P if you so desire.

I was Kansas City the other night and I must say, I had been involved in a couple of shoes, that were absolutely incredible! The vibe was way north of infectious, 100% bad a*ss show of passion for the game by several of the players. The back-and-forth was ridiculous in every way, every shape and every form!

The table was Macau/Midi style. The limits were $50-$10,000. It was a 5 Treasures bac game, so there was a Panda 8, the Fortune 7, the Blazing 777s (three card seven ties both sides 200:1 or two card 7 ties both sides 50:1, and the Heavenly 9s (three card nine ties 75:1 or three card one side build out 10:1, as well as a 6:1 coverall wager which covers all for the side bets.  Also the standard tie bet 8:1. 

Sat down at one of the numerous active bac tables.  It was probably around hand 70 with about 10 hands to go. Won a few, lost a few, upped my bet to about 10 times what I was wagering. I think it was like 35P, 30B and 5 ties.  I placed my wager on player because it was 1s in 2s and there were 2 Bs showing. I turned over and 8 and then an Ace and B responded with a face card and a friggin 9.  I said out loud, "Fu*k can't even win with a Natural 9"!  I increased my wager again and kept it on the P. I turned over a pair of fives and the B responded with a total of 6. I got the Ps third card and upon looking at it, said out loud it was a 3 line card. 

There were two other very large wagering players that were also on the P side. They didn't desire to handle the cards because they were losing, as they so stated to me. So I did. I turned the card and saw there was not a dot in the middle and said, we either got a 6 or 7. I turned the card to the opposite side and those two guys are now standing up and calling for a 7.  I saw it was a 6 and threw it down. Banker drew and returned a face card. Tie hand again.

Both of those guys increased their wagers to table max. I increased my wager again considerably. Once again I got the cards. First one was an Ace and the second one was another Ace. Banker returned a 7. I got the third card and saw it was another 3 line card. I tell everyone, 6, 7 or 8. Of course they were saying no snowman-no snowman then started yelling, no snowman. I peek at one end of it. There is a dot. I see now I either have a 7 or an 8.  I say I have a 7 or an 8, they are both repeatedly saying 7 extremely loud. It was a 7 for a beautiful total of 9, high-fives happened! 

They asked me join them down a few tables and not play the last few hands where we were at. I did and we all moved, sat down and got the other table opened. 

We start the shoe. The camaraderie is starting to be in the air which I absolutely love.

I am trying to lineup in my mind everything I write about on the forum, not easy. With my win I am nicely  ahead.  And I've just taken 1/3rd of my win and locked it up.  Put 2/3rds of my win in a separate stack for my play money and my buy-in, off in separate stacks as well.  So I employed my 1/3rd, 1/3rd, 1/3rd MMM. 

Staying conscious of too much time playing is what I was trying to really focus on. I even wrote on my scorecard off on the side, TIME-TIME-TIME, three times and kept outlining it with my pen.  The other things I was focusing on was not going overboard with negative  progressions if losing started, hand after hand. As well, several other things were bouncing around in my mind-frame. However, I am also conscious of the powerful win possibilities and hitting it hard and fast if it is being presented.

It was late at night and the casino floor had a large amount of people on it.  This was in Kansas City and it was one of three largest casinos there out of all the gaming properties in the metro area. 

We were all wagering heavy on the P, as we were all in agreement that P frequently dominates the beginning of the shoes.  At the table there are the 3 of us plus one other person that walked up and sat down.  The 'outsider' places a small wager on the B side.  The other guy opens the cards and a beautiful Natural 9 is slammed down.  All 3 of us high five.  The other guy on B had a face card and a 2 or a 3. 

Both of the guys increase their wagers to table max.  I am not there yet for some reason I can't define.  Mine is increased, although not anywhere near table max, still heavy though.  We return a 4 and an 8 for the Players side.  B returns a 7.  Our third card after much peeking and peeling, was a 7.  Once again we are all high-fiving and standing up now.  Interestingly to note the music overhead was by The Talking Heads, Burning Down The House.  So appropriate in every sense!  The aura was building in a real physical manner. 

Now, we all agreed just to leave our wagers on the P and pull down the wins.  We kinda prayed for one of those 8-10-12-14 P streaks in the beginning.  Next hand was a Face and a 6 for our P side.  The B side had a 10 and a 5.  All of us and the outsider were on the P side.  The dealer flips an 8 for the B side.  Again beautiful!  Feeling good.  Floor supervisor joins the pit manager close to our table behind the dealer.  Watching without doubt. 

Once again,  we all agreed to leave on the P in hopes of a streak.  Visions of really stacking it up and with no real risk of my buy-in was flashing in neon lights in front of me! 

All of us are on the P side.  We get the cards and a 4 and a 7 is flipped over.  The B side got a Face and a 4.  We got our third card and it was a 6.  Of course a total hand of 7 against a 4 was in our favor.  The Dealer flips a friggin 4 for the B!!!!!  WTF! 

Now the board is looking like this:

P-P-P-B

So we discuss and all agree on the Player to continue. One of us mentions the B to even out or streak, but we decided to stay with P mostly because of the stigma following the board and following the shoe, as well as changing up on initial decisions, etc. We all stick on P. We return a 7 and a 10 for the P.  B returns a pair of 9s and we lose once again! 2 out of 3 of our wins now go right back to the rack!!! Damn! Slipping a little bit and we could physically feel it.

We all look at each other. Once again we agree on the P side. Not heavy wagers, but considerable amounts nonetheless.  We turn over a face card and a 5. The B side has a 9 and a 10. We lose a third time. We look at each other all quiet, just shaking our heads.  Won 3 in a row, lost 3 in a row, gave it all back. Embarrassing!

We all agreed once again, 3P and 3B. Once again we stick on the P. We all increased our wagers with a negative progression Martingale.  We turn over an 8 and a 7. The B turns over a face and a 4. We are all saying monkey out loud of course. We turn over a 5.  We are saying, "WTF", "Really" and "Oh Come On", etc.  The B turns over a 7 for that 100% insulting nasty 1 to Zero win. Now I lost like the others, four in a row. Keep giving it back. 

Almost all the win money except for a very small amount from the other table, and the previous three hands as well, was given back to the house.  Those wins totaled up to be sizable!  Gone back!  I was seriously considering leaving with a small amount of my win money. Both of the other guys were just about wiped out. Their wives or girlfriends were standing behind them. They held her hands out and moved their fingers, as if saying give me more cash. One did and the other one said no.  An outlandish verbal confrontation happened right there at the table, when the player stood up and demanded more money to play. It wasn't pretty. I was really going to pack it in and leave with my little win and get the hell out of there.

Seriously again, I was just about ready to pack it in because the aura turned totally against the game. I started to get up and the guy next to me says, stay—it is coming I promise. I've been around this well known block way too many times and it was nothing new. But for some reason undefinable to me I stayed. Call it getting sucked in, call it being a fool, but I stayed right there.

The guy's wife or girlfriend eventually gave in after a few minutes and slammed down a stack of cash in his hand.

The board looked like this now.

P-P-P-B-B-B-B

The lyrics from Golden Earrings song, 'The Twilight Zone', are repeating themselves in my head over and over, "I'm falling down a spiral, destination unknown.  Can't get no connection, can't get through".  At times it is wrong to play every hand, but without thinking I was and there was no turning back.  I was hell bent on some kind of sizable win.  The emotions, frustrations and those well known 'I Want It'(s) were building up inside of me.

NOTE:  Bear in mind while all this is going on, I am a heavier Bankers side person then Players side. And I also love that equalization and the last four hands that drained my win money, really messed with me. Bear that in mind so you understand where I'm coming from at this point.  The win was taken away from me just as fast as I won it. 

So the buy-ins were completed for the other two gentleman and I am back using the last of my win money and some of my original buy-in is back at risk.  We quickly discussed P or B wagers. We all agreed on P once again. At this point if we lost, I highly doubt we would have jumped on the B that was forming. We all been there and done that way too many times!  Playing for something to happen and changing up and jumping on something different after losing numerous hands, such as we just did almost always is the path to greater loss almost every time. 

The other guy that bet on B three times with a small wager, pushes out a large wager greater than 5K on the B now. We are all wagering between 2K and 5K on P once again. We return a natural and win. Smiles and high-fives start once again. The three of us are now once again on the P and the other guy is at table max and throws it on the P instead of the B.  So now all four of us are in concert and on the P. 

Another few people quickly come over from the other tables and wagers are placed on both P and B by them.  We get the cards and we have two face cards and the banker turns over a black jack. Our third card is a 10 and we're sitting with a total of a miserable zero. The banker gets its third card and the guy is turning it and turning and turning it and finally peels it back and flops over a 9 and we got our first tie hand. LOL! 

So now after the tie, I dedicated myself to $225 a hand on some side bets which was going to be $100 on the Fortune 7 and $100 on the Golden 8 which is also known as the Panda 8 and $25 on the Blazing 7s which is either a three card seven tie for both sides for 200:1 or a two card seven tie for both sides for 50:1.

NOTE:  I want to stress how I was feeling for the experienced players that read these threads. What was running through my mind, extremely consciously was hit and run and I was kind of passed that point, but also was this one of those elusive great shoes that I can really rack up six figures plus?  I've done it in the past although not common, but can happen especially with the $10,000 table max limits. There was good camaraderie and that is a key point for myself to really stack up the wagers.  What happened earlier before things turned around, whereas I gave back everything I won plus I was using my original buy-in a second time, was really haunting me. 

FOR REFERENCE WE ARE AT:

P-P-P-B-B-B-B-P-T

Now, we all stacked it up with the win and had a total positive progression on the P side.  We got the cards and had a total of 6. The B returns less than a 6 (my notes are messed up I can't read what they had) and gets its third card. The guy peaks at it who's wagering on B and quickly turned over face card after seeing the black line I guess. Again we all high five and are verbally boasting ourselves and the P side.

We all have extremely heavy bets on the P side. Two people had small bets on the B side I think one had $75 and the other one had $100. The guy next to me, that had table max was asking the two people to pull their bets down and he placed a black chip at each one on the rail side to cover them, if the banker won and we lost. He didn't want their money up on the banker for them to handle the cards and they both agreed. Pure superstition but it is all good. 

We noticed the music once again overhead and it is Rod Stewart with that song, Da Ya Think I'm Sexy begins.  We got our cards and the guy flipped over two 10s after much ado thinking one was a 9 or they both were. The dealer flips over an ace and a 5 for the B.  We get the third card for the P and the guy is working it and says it's a three line card when he looks at it horizontally. We all have money on the Fortune 7 and the Golden 8.  Although if it was a 6, it would've cost us all our side bets probably but the bank would have had to draw to see if it was a tie or possibly a bank win with another Ace, 2 or 3.  Anyway he turns it vertically and says, it's a 7 or an 8 and of course we want that snowman for the P side to win plus a Golden 8 win.  This is no exaggeration; I'm telling you the guy starts singing, come on sugar let me know, come on honey tell me so, just let me know, just reach out and touch me and his wife is behind him hugging him and singing along with the music. The guy still has the card face down, but we all know it's a snowman. The guy  reaches over and grabs the $75 and $100 the other were going to bet on B, along with his two black chips and throws it up to the dealer and says that's for you. Guy slams down the snowman and says, "do you think that snowman is sexy"?  We're all happier than a pig in poo!  $2.500.00 plus the P base wager won.  The game is getting real! 


















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Link to article.

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Quote from: KungFuBac on November 24, 2023, 03:14:42 PMThx for post and pics.



Q: alrelax how did u play this high F7 shoe?



Thanks again

KFB,

Unfortunately I did not play that shoe, as I came in during the last 5 or so hands.

Without a doubt I would have hit everyone as I am always F7 heavy the first 10-16 hands of the shoe. 

But.......I missed it. 

In the end, more than anything else, you will regret the chances or choices you did not take. Stop allowing 'pop-up' regrets and info to control yourself, it is a huge disadvantage and will wreck your decision making process.

9 THINGS TO DO FOR ADDING ADVANTAGE TO YOUR PLAY

1) Stop letting others tell you what to do. (In an above an occasional or few camaraderie plays when you are on a win streak with others at the table);

2) Do not forget the real factual priorities of decision making and applying experiences in the correct way;

3) Don't allow uncertainty to stop you;

4) Be careful to focus on your failures and losses rather than your present opportunity;

5) Not allowing knowledge and experience to play advantage roles;

6) Never claim your a victim;

7) Stop any over analyzing;

#8. Do not allow yourself to classify and limit positive and advantaged playing;

9) Stop the "If Only" statement and belief, which will normally throw you off track.

True, 'atypical' it is not.  But with bac many various presentments are not atypical but they certainly do arrive.  If something that is not atypical is being presented and I win 20 or so times with a couple or few atypical presentments during the course of a shoe, while all or most of the other people are wagering for what should be winning rather than the atypical hand, am I wrong for stacking it up and winning handsomely? 

Reference F7s:

I have witnessed a total of 7 consecutive shoes at the same table having ZERO F7s.  Normally it is no where  near that amount.  One or two shoes without an F7 is nothing rare at all.  As well, a good string of F7s with 1-2-3 is also nothing rare at all. 

I have witnessed a total of 9 F7s in one shoe a few years back, that is rare and the most I ever witnessed. 

Guess we can classify F7s like the side bet on the 5 Treasures bac game with the 777s tie bet.  Where the same wager covers both the P and the B having a 2 card 7 tie for a 50:1 payout as well as both the P and the B having a 3 card 7 tie for the beautiful 200:1 payout.  The 777s both the 2 and 3 card versions are presented quite frequently some shoes, like 5-7 times and yet other shoes 1 or 2 times if that. 

I have said for a very long time reference F7s total number in a shoe.  1-2 or 3 occur the most.  4 and 5 happen better than rare occurrences but far less than 1-2-3 times a shoe.  Concerning possibilities IMO.  If 1-2 are extremely early on, a great possibility for a 3rd.  If the 3rd occurs before half way, then a possibility exists for 4-5. 

Reference a viable F7 count.  I researched counting and presentments as a clue to an up coming F7 and IMO, there are none.  Again, IMO those that believe there are viable counts to gain advantages are mislead.  Why do I say that, because there will be just as many if not more of the same counts that WILL NOT PRODUCE the anticipated F7 that is supposed to appear, etc.  I spent countless hours with 8 decks of cards and set them up in every way, shape and form; with no real count that worked and proved an upcoming F7 or tie was coming.  With the random cut and varying burn card, it is impossible to produce a trigger that is north of 50%.  Period.

Funds set aside for F7 wagering.  I like 2 tactics  myself.  1). Hit a sizable win extremely early on and set aside my win as the F7 risk capital money.  So to me, it's on the casino.  Yes, it was my win money and I could have pocketed it, etc., but I choose to win more on the casino's dime and with a clearer head, less stress and far less or zero emotions if the wager(s) lose.  2). Buy in with a certain amount set aside for the sole purpose of F7 and/or other side bets.  To me, that is risk capital.

My son and I cooked together and had a great Thanksgiving dinner, lots of leftovers! 

Turkey stuffed with onions, apples and lemons
Ham with sweet glaze
Corn with butter and seasoning
Mashed potatoes
Gravy
Asparagus with bacon and seasoning w/onions & tomatoes
Stuffing with sweetened cranberries

And here's s another one from that night, and although I shot the picture with 10-9-10, the next hand was a players win. 

So it was a 10-10-10, which I never saw something like that in the first 30 hands. 

Like I say, play enough and you will see it all.  Huge influx on people's decision making influences and experiences, etc.

Dilemma.  Wager for it and it doesn't happen.  Don't wager for it and it happens.  Again and again and again.

CHECK OUT THE VERY NEXT SHOE.

Next shoe, same table.  Almost an exact opposite of the one above with 41 Bankers, 30 Players, 8 Ties and 6 Fortune 7s. This one had 41 Players, 30 Bankers, 6 Ties  and 2 Fortune 7s. 

Second picture is marked up for Sections if anyone is interested. 

Play enough bac and you will see anything and everything.  Seriously! 

Fortune 7s at hands: 3-4-5-21-35-50

3 back-to-back Fortunes.  Never saw this before.  I have seen plenty of back-to-back F7s, but never more than 2.  Saw a few triple Fortune 7s in a banker streak separated by regular banker wins and I have posted those here in the past.

Hand 3:  Player 6/4 flops a 6. Banker 10/F flops a 7.

Hand 4:  Player 2/2 flops a 6. Banker 5/A flops an Ace.

Hand 5:  Player 8/7 flops a 7. Banker 9/5 flops a 3.

Note:  My theory about 0-1-2-3 low or no ties is PREVALENT and extremely factual here as well in the first 50 hands!

Second picture is how I would do the Sections.

Best Wishes to all on my forum here, members that contribute, those that continuously browse and all the people coming on to read without signing-up as well!

Happy Thanksgiving 2023! 

Alrelax
Administrator and Forum Owner

I have posted a while back about the two 'well known' on-line casino sites, that I had on our forum here a while back. 

If you all remember, I had their total web site package, etc.  I was to receive a set commission rate for player sign up and participation, etc. 

First hand experience from the business side of them.  They lie, cheat and steal. Period.  I caught them hands down.  I had several friends sign up using all their real and verified information, make cash deposits and play.  Both of the on-line casinos had all kinds of excuses for failure to pay the commissions or pay some trivial amount that was extremely less than their agreed upon rates. 

So if they do that to their advertising platforms, I can only imagine what they do to their patrons. 

That is the reason I cancelled their advertising on my forum.

Just thought it was appropriate for my 'on-line' casino factual findings regarding their business practices, ethics and morals to be posted here. 

If you trust them with your money, as well as trusting their so called 'fair and honest' way of casino play, it's all on you. 

I wish to spell it out.  Plain, simple and clear.

There is to be NO posting Links or Advertisement(s) of anything/any kind on my forum without the following:

1). You contact me and you are verified and certified through myself;

2). You become a sponsor of my forum;

3). The links and/or advertisements are verified and certified by myself as well.

If you are legit, responsible and care about your fellow forum member/potential customers, you would have zero problem with this.

If you post without contacting me the way many attempt with links and advertisements, I will immediately delete them and ban you in several ways.

This is my policy and it is never going to change.

I am open to sponsors and sponsorships if you wish to venture down that road.  So, that leaves out all the spammers, phishers, scamsters, drama link posters, etc., etc., etc.

Sincerely,
Alrelax
Administrator and Forum Owner

Bricks you place in front of yourself...

Every single brick that you place on the wall, makes it harder to penetrate-makes it harder to profit – makes it harder to stay with the shoe presentments as they are happening. That is the way it is.

Information that is worthless and absolutely false in many senses, will be a brick you allow to be inset into a wall in front of you, directly between yourself and the shoe as it sits on the side of the dealer.

When those bricks are there, they are there no matter what, no matter how strange-weird-not ordinary-against all odds, etc., etc., etc.

Bricks are intangible. Same as systems, counts, data, mechanical wagering based on anything, etc., etc., because none of it will allow guaranteed hand after hand wins. None.

You know, but you really don't know.