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Started by Albalaha, April 25, 2020, 09:33:17 AM

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hgwen


Albalaha

I spotted the worst time to start . #143. It took me 600 spins to win it finally. Max bet=24 units.
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hgwen


Albalaha

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Jimske

Albalaha, did you post your betting scheme or is that's something you're keeping to yourself?

Thanks

Albalaha

QuoteAlbalaha, did you post your betting scheme or is that's something you're keeping to yourself?

Thanks
This is no betting scheme to try for fun. I m looking for most stringent real sessions to work upon and see its potential. So far, it is unbeatable to any data I could put my hands upon. I m also checking if it can still be bettered.
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sean

For this particular session that took 600 spins, how many units did u win?

How many mini stop losses were there?


Quote from: Albalaha on April 29, 2020, 12:28:38 PM
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Albalaha

We win a net profit till the end of the session shown as LW for me as I did not compute sessions before that or after that. There are number of mini losses that I did not count. I know it had to win, sooner or later.
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hgwen

I've made a roulette simulator (excel file with macros). You can simulate 1000 spins and see how each EC performs.
When you find an interesting session, you can save it (and test it with your method).

I saved one tough session for you in the file.

Albalaha

Excel RNG is not good one. better refer to random.org or work upon real session data. Your data has simple bad stretches which has easier recoveries than my posted sessions. Come up with real data, if you can.
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hgwen

Quote from: Albalaha on April 30, 2020, 04:39:25 PM
Excel RNG is not good one. better refer to random.org or work upon real session data. Your data has simple bad stretches which has easier recoveries than my posted sessions. Come up with real data, if you can.

Ok.

You should pass this one from random.org like the others but it's a bad one from spin 101 to spin 400.

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Hi,
I think, bet EC, is risky,
since, worst in 100spins may only had 30hit, and worst ever 200spins=69/200spins

below,  a bet selection, that bet in matrix4,
say, roulette,
bet RED for 4spins,
if win a spins, sit out,don't bet the rest.
If lose all four, change to bet BBBB.
Quote from: Albalaha on April 29, 2020, 11:58:36 AM
I spotted the worst time to start . #143. It took me 600 spins to win it finally. Max bet=24 units.
:nod:
268 Wins vs 333 Losses almost -2SD overall. L/W of the worst stretch looks like:
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bet in 4increment,
sit out the remaining spin if win.

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Please post your suggestions, ideas, or any question, all are welcome...

Albalaha

Quote from: PatternAnalys on May 02, 2020, 12:14:29 PM
Hi,
I think, bet EC, is risky,
since, worst in 100spins may only had 30hit, and worst ever 200spins=69/200spins

below,  a bet selection, that bet in matrix4,
say, roulette,
bet RED for 4spins,
if win a spins, sit out,don't bet the rest.
If lose all four, change to bet BBBB.
No way of picking/filtering bet could give you safe times to win always. You better learn to fight the worst instead of dreaming of getting a bet that will never go too bad. That made me work on all over playing approaches and I can win passing through even the worst. Even if I get say after 10 millions spins of play a time to lose -300 somehow, I won't mind.
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8OR9

Pattern Analysis....thanks for posting the method in 2 posts above...however you should have used B for Banker and P for Player in baccarat instead of W and L  ...using W and L is confusing since W usually                           means a win and L usually means a loss.

PatternAnalys


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Hi 8OR9,
That LW, are Albalaha's
extreme win lose.
I just try, to think a way,
to avoid EXTREME variance, in EC bet by, alternating bet, when "one side sleep", and also when "both side hit math expectation".
So, either, 'one side sleep', or 'both side active', we avoid extreme variance.


below another a
Albalaha's extreme, that I try to avoid "extreme".
Quote from: Albalaha on April 28, 2020, 01:01:47 PM
#3         ANOTHER BRUTAL SESSION: 219 LOSSES VS 154 WINS BEATEN WITH MAX BET=12 UNITS

bet in increment four,
(LLLLL) or
(WWWW)
alternate when lose all four.
x=lose
h=hit.

when hit,
sit out the rest.

bet (wwww)

Lx
Lx
Lx
Lx lose 4,
next bet (LLLL)

W x=lose
L hit
L
L

L hit
L nb
L nb
L nb

L hit
W
L
L

L hit
L
L
L

L hit
L nb
L nb
L nb

L hit
L
L
L

W x
L hit
L
L

L hit
L
W
L

L hit
L
W
W

L hit
L
W
L

L hit
L
L
L

W x
L hit
W
L

W x
L hit
W
W

L hit
L
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L

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L
L
L

W x
L hit
W
L

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W x
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L hit
W

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L
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W x
L hit
L
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L
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L
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W x
L hit
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L hit
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L

W x

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