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[Xander]

have developed a certain gambling philosophy over the years. One of the basics of that philosophy is to take advantage of those times when I have a winning pattern going for me. And one of the ways I do that, take advantage of the good luck, is to keep playing.
The majority of people come into a casino and when they get lucky they quit to soon. They start out with a couple of hundred dollars, win $500 and walk out with the feeling that they have scored a tremendous victory over the casino. Those same people will come back time after time and drop $50, $100, $200 each visit, and without realizing it they still aren't ahead when they do get lucky. Because they quit playing too soon. Vegas casinos are so plush and luxurious because people don't always cut their losses but they cut their winnings!

A professional gambler rides his luck when he is winning. But you'll never see a professional bet the same amount consistently when he's winning-unless it's the house limit.''

Seriously, this does it for you? 


Does the guy ever actually teach how to get an edge in the game of baccarat, or is it just more of the same money management progression nonsense?

Where are the wise words?

What I've read so far is simply page filler.  Basically the same thing that you'd find in a JP book.


-Xander

[Xander]

  There's so many bootleg copies out there.  Last year someone was peddling copies on Lulu.com.  Opportunites are very limited for some people, but not others.  I make a living out of playing. But most people simply don't have the patience, and or can't travel.

Now regarding bac.  Yes I know exactly how to get a real edge.  And it's not BS money management, gaming discipline, or hit and run nonsense. (And no, I'm not charging for it.) 


-Xander

[Big EZ]

Xander.....


I would like to hear your views on bacc

[Xander]

It's a good game to make money on if you have good eyes and if you're not lazy.  You really can get the edge over the casino.

[Big EZ]

I was talking about the edge you say you get at the game.....not the experience

[Xander]

A good AP player can get a fractional edge up to as high as 15% over the casino on mini bac.

[Big EZ]

Would you care to explain how that's achieved

[Xander]

It's called "sort play".  APs have made millions playing it at bac.  In many locations around LV and the US, the cards are not covered by the little brushes when they're setting in the shoe.  An astute player, with good vision, can follow the shifting pattern on the back of the cards.

By tracking the shifting of the printed pattern  on the back of the cards, the AP player can categorize virtually every card in the shoe- into a few, to several, different categories using a pen and paper, as well as a discrete tracking code.

After cataloging the back of each card and it's value, the player calculates the edge for either the player bet or the banker bet for each of the patterns sorted.

Once the necessary calculations have been made, the AP player can get the edge by looking at the next card in the shoe, in order to determine if the next card out is more likely to benefit the player, the banker, or whether it's likely to be neutral.

Often times, the AP immediately has the edge on the first hand - after having sorted all of the decks.  As the AP plays deeper into the shoe, the edge can increase substantially.

And yes, this can be done in BJ as well, but it involves using a plus/minus count and the separation of each card into a symmetrical verses an asymmetrical category. 

Sort playing can enable the player to get a very real edge, unlike the utter nonsense that you read about gaming discipline, up as you lose progressions, trends, etc.



-Xander

[TwoCatSam]

My old friend, Coussin Gonflable, wishes to borrow my keyboard.  He has been spending time in Spain with his new love, Doloros de Parto.

Go Coussie.................

Hooooooooooboy, I tell you one something!  Stuff your pillow with horse feathers and dream on.



That's it??  Well, there you have it!

Sam

[Xander]

"In May, PokerNews learned that Phil Ivey was suing Crockfords, Britain's oldest casino, for withholding £7.8 million he won playing Punto Banco, a form of baccarat. The Daily Mail got a look at Ivey's court submission over the weekend, and the nine-time World Series of Poker bracelet winner claims that he used a technique called "edge sorting" at the casino."

"Edge sorting is a method of advantage play that uses natural irregularities in the cut on the backs of cards to be able to identify certain groups of cards. By being able to identify critical cards, APs are able to improve their betting and playing decisions. This method of advantage play is not new; APs have been using it to beat the house for at least two decades. The advantages that edge sorting can produce are significant and enduring. The games targeted range from blackjack and baccarat to Caribbean Stud and Mississippi Stud. Casinos around the world have been hard hit by this method. And the fix is trivial.

Abram Alexander, in his book "Advanced Tactics in Casino Advantage Play" (available only as a Kindle e-book), wrote,

"One of the most closely-guarded secrets in the upper echelons of casino advantage play is the practice of card sorting, known as "the turn" ... The technique is predicated on the imperfections in the manufacturing process of casino playing cards. The backs of the cards, which generally contain some sort of repeating diamond or geometrical pattern, are often asymmetrical. If examined closely, it will be revealed that the top and bottom or right and left edges of the cards are not identical ... My own experience is limited, having only played on my own, and only in three casinos (The Palms, The Orleans, and the Barbary Coast) ... This technique is best practiced with a team that can lock up the entire table and, in fact, I have on more than a few occasions come into a casino to see a veritable who's who of advantage players working in concert to make it happen."

To understand how edge sorting works, we have to examine the backs of a few common playing cards. The following two designs show asymmetries along the right and left edges. Note the full diamond shapes along the left edge and the half-diamond shapes along the right edges."- Dr. Elliot Jacobson




A quick FYI: Edge sorting is currently the biggest AP threat to casinos.  Losses to sort play could be in the hundreds of millions.

@Twocat,

Sort play isn't for the lazy, slow wit, or simple minded.  Your cousin should steer clear. 


-Xander

[TwoCatSam]

@Twocat,

Sort play isn't for the lazy, slow wit, or simple minded.  Your cousin should steer clear. 


-Xander

When Priyanka came on this forum, it was like a breath of fresh air.  You are like the wind off a sewage treatment plant. 

Since you--who seems to have set himself up as the forum authority--have a problem with grammar, let me parse my statement.  "My old friend, Coussin Gonflable,..." my old friend and Coussin Gonflable are one and the same.

Let me say it another way, "My old friend, whose name is Coussin Gonflable...."

So you see, the word "cousin" was not in my post.

And you wrote a book?

I'm done with you.  Will Rogers said, "Never argue with a fool 'cause people can't tell the difference."

Samster

[Xander]

Since you--who seems to have set himself up as the forum authority--have a problem with grammar, let me parse my statement.  "My old friend, Coussin Gonflable,..." my old friend and Coussin Gonflable are one and the same. -Twocat

Twocat,

Do you by chance have red hair, read poetry, and cry at sunsets?  I wasn't aware that I've set myself up as the "forum authority".

Regarding the "Coussin" comment:  I simply assumed that you didn't know how to spell cousin.  My mistake!  Since you've pointed out my mistake above, I can help you find your's as well, if you'd like me to find them all. 
Don't be so hypersensative. 

Will someone please hand Twocat another tissue?

[Turner]

@Xander....Of course, the CSM murders all this clever edge-sort play-card counting malarkey....does it not?


I've not been in every casino in UK, but I've been in a few. I haven't seen a card shoe for 4 years.




@Sam....Priyanka had already been on the forum for months. It was GreatGrampa in drag lol

[Xander]

@Xander....Of course, the CSM murders all this clever edge-sort play-card counting malarkey....does it not?


I've not been in every casino in UK, but I've been in a few. I haven't seen a card shoe for 4 years.-Tuner

Turner,

Malarkey?  Is that what you call the number one AP threat to casinos in 2014?  Perhaps you'd like to point to a better system that gives the player the edge?     Dr. Elliot Jacobson and Bill Zender , gaming experts and consultants, certainly don't consider it to be "Malarkey". 

As long as the player can see the next card to be dealt, then he can get an edge via sort play, regardless of the continuous shuffle.  Besides, there are still several casinos that do not use the CSM.

  By the way, the incident with Phil Ivey just recently happened.  LV Strip casinos have lost millions to sort players.  MGM recently replaced their cards with a new back pattern.  Unfortunately for them, the new pattern enables a better play for the sharper APs.

[Turner]

Turner,

Malarkey?  Is that what you call the number one AP threat to casinos in 2014?  Perhaps you'd like to point to a better system that gives the player the edge?    

Calm down dear Xander.....


I asked if the CSM kills AP. It does....DEAD


It can't be threatening the casino or they would have changed to CSMs.


Its naive to believe Casinos are threatened and do nothing about it.


Martingale wins?...lower the house limit
Card counting?...burn cards and use half the shoe or install CSM
Visual Balistic computers? ....no bets after the spin. They will do that if VB becomes a threat.
They will use CSM if AP becomes a threat.


OK, CSM may turn people off playing. So they must still make enough with punters playing shoes to not care about AP.