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[WorldBaccaratKing]

I talked about what I use in another thread. From time to time, I still like to use Pit Bosses method.

Bet against 2's and 3's, and went with 4's until streak broke.  a 1-2-4 progression. I can't remember his win stop, I think his stop was like -8 or 9 units. But that is really up to the player.

One system I used to use all the time and had super success and then it flamed out like the others was this:

Wait for 1st hand, bet for a chop. If it chopped, keep betting it. If it went to 2, bet with it that it goes to 3 and ride it out. 2's are the only culprit but as we know, they can come in bunches. Can remember A LOT of shoes seeing PP-BB-PP-BB-PP. You need to stop after X amount or you will be out a lot of units FAST!!!

[alrelax]

You are spot on about the doubles, but don't leave about 6 to 12 times chop.  After 3 is spotty and four does cut a lot.  If you are on a run the old school way was to wager heavy, one once and pull down the winning.  After it, you can not lose.  Leave the wager until the run cuts.  That's all I have to say.

[WorldBaccaratKing]

I think I seen 16 chops in a row. I have seen 6-8 tons of times. Doubles I see 4-5 in a row, not all the time but a lot it will double 2-3 times, chop, then double 2-3 times. They hurt when playing the other strategy I was talking about.....

Have to have a stop with the 2's because statistically they occur the most after singles....

I had a programmer try all sorts of stuff for me and I had one system that beat both zummas easily BUT you had to employ an 80 unit bet. You won thousands of units but man, I play a minimum 25 dollar table and usually my minimum us 50-100, that's a hefty bet so I never played it live.....

[Tomla]

World Baccarat King,
That would be a cool system to share because someone might be able to come up with a better betting system on it--I understand 80x $25 is ouch

[WorldBaccaratKing]

World Baccarat King,
That would be a cool system to share because someone might be able to come up with a better betting system on it--I understand 80x $25 is ouch

Tomla,

I hired IZAK from LTW. his a good excel programmer, charges me a few hundred and made it based upon my criteria. I have it on my other puter, have to look up the details. I just remember I was going through zumma books and trying to come up with something, doing it all by hand took forever that's why I had him automate it....