For your consideration...
Baccarat Player's Advantage is intended to be a guide to help improve the performance of the baccarat player. Just as in competitive sports and other high performance endeavors, successful baccarat play has as much to do with training, discipline, effective focus, and execution as anything. We believe that there is value in presenting a number of considerations related to these concepts that every baccarat player should hold at the forefront of play. We have found such considerations to be critically important after a substantial amount of time playing baccarat in live casinos.
Effective money management is the foundation for success in any endeavor where risk capital is put to work to attempt to generate returns. Successful baccarat play requires effective money management including establishing limits of loss to manage risk, setting targets to retain profit, determining a range of bet sizes as a basis for play under different conditions, and a plan to lock in winnings by sweeping profitable play off of the tables.
There are many different ways to assess a baccarat shoe as part of the bet selection process. We present a few of the most effective techniques that baccarat players tend to look at. It is important to note that nothing in our recommendations constitutes a fixed or dynamic system of play as commonly classified, advantaged play, or cheating. Yet the material we present may be used as a basis for your development of an approach to playing baccarat successfully. You may find that this discretionary decision making process works well for you or use this information to help develop a more systematic approach to the game.
Currently available on Amazon in Kindle format.
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Quote from: Jaguar88 on June 17, 2017, 07:40:37 PM
Yet the material we present may be used as a basis for your development of an approach to playing baccarat successfully. You may find that this discretionary decision making process works well for you or use this information to help develop a more systematic approach to the game.
Isn't that what we do here in the forum?
AD
Quote from: ADulay on June 19, 2017, 12:43:04 AM
Isn't that what we do here in the forum?
AD
People usually fare better with a structured form of instruction than a random collaboration. There are a substantial number of examples to support this. The clear majority of what we have learned about the game is through actual play. Of course it's great to learn and check with the right players on-line. However, it is very easy to see who actually plays and who doesn't when reviewing content on-line.
Quote from: Jaguar88 on June 19, 2017, 06:00:34 AM
People usually fare better with a structured form of instruction than a random collaboration. There are a substantial number of examples to support this. The clear majority of what we have learned about the game is through actual play. Of course it's great to learn and check with the right players on-line. However, it is very easy to see who actually plays and who doesn't when reviewing content on-line.
All very true.
AD
Does your strategy in the book make use of the derived roads that are shown in the baccarat board? Do you have examples of the strategy in the book?
Quote from: james on June 20, 2017, 01:52:28 PM
Does your strategy in the book make use of the derived roads that are shown in the baccarat board? Do you have examples of the strategy in the book?
Our view is that the Derived Roads (Big Eye Boy, Small Road, and Cockroach Road) are extremely valuable to play and are covered in the book. Many of the same formations found on the Big Road with Bank and Player are found on the Derived Roads as well. As with everything in baccarat, there is no signal or trigger that is a lock, but you can observe the Derived Roads and follow what they are showing just the same way you can do so with the Big Road.
Some of the best baccarat shoes have strong formations on the Big Road as well as strong formations building on two or even all three Derived Roads. For example, you might have a very strong Bank shoe that is also showing red (trending) on all three Derived Roads.
The best way to gain experience with the Derived Roads is to start with a basic understanding of what they are and watch how they work in live play. Keep in mind there will be many times where there is conflict between the Big Road and the Derived Roads or within the Derived Roads themselves. That is, some formation has to break. This is a primary reason why players elect for no bet, free hands, or small bets at times.
Derived Roads: Also, between everything on the baccarat scoreboard including the Derived Roads it is often easy to find a reason why to stop betting in a manner aligned with a strong formation. Successful baccarat play that leverages experience and discretion requires you to prioritize.
For example, if you are fortunate to be in on a long Bank or Player Dragon/ Dragon Tail (Many Bank or Player wins in a row), you may many broken jumping points in the Derived Roads to along the way. All very experience based and situational.
To play baccarat successfully, you have to put in work. It pays to observe what's happening on many levels. Big Road, Bead Plate, Derived Roads, players and their selections and bet sizes, momentum, trends and formations or nothing, dealers, why are things going my way?, why is everything going against me?...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r1tq1XBN0w&list=PLOPmDfV0hAMZG1U05-KeLnpxEFGVTIXoD&index=2
Quote from: Jaguar88 on June 19, 2017, 06:00:34 AM
People usually fare better with a structured form of instruction than a random collaboration. There are a substantial number of examples to support this. The clear majority of what we have learned about the game is through actual play. Of course it's great to learn and check with the right players on-line. However, it is very easy to see who actually plays and who doesn't when reviewing content on-line.
yes I agree a structured method is always batter for the bettor in the end then confusion. I understand what you're writing, referring to regarding considering many aspects at once. It helps the bettor to weigh up the chances of success and gives him/her the ability to find out what /she might be doing wrong on the times when losing bets come, as they will always come.
Percentages. Percentages are a sound approach to keeping your bet sizing under control. There is a difference between increased bet sizes under positive progression and a sudden step up in bet size. Also, it is very easy to blur rational decision making, lines, and strategy when surrounded with much larger players.
For example, if you typically bet with a unit size of $100, you may find yourself among players with much larger bank rolls and bet sizes. A $500 or $1,000 bet will start to look average or typical when you are playing hour after hour with others who have a few hundred or more as their base unit size.
Percentages should help keep your bet sizing in line as well as be smarter about stop limits and profit targets. Incorporating percentages as well as nominal amounts should be helpful in framing your play as $500 and $1,000 represent a bet size 500% and 1,000% larger than your appropriate unit bet size.
Walk into a bank or investment term and ask for a 15% return in a few hours.
There are countless examples of players taking a huge step up in bet size on 'sure plays' or plays with 'strong confidence' which may or may not turn out well. And remember that another player's bank roll may not be your bank roll, and another player's unit size may not be your bet size.
Hey Jag, (Can I call you that?)
I took a look at the Amazon preview for this book and it seems very well written. Kudos for that. I just started playing baccarat (not sure how I passed it up all these years) so I'm not sure I'm ready to drop 50 on an ebook but wanted to say it seems to have a different feel from most strategy or system books.
Best,
3Nine
you are absolutely correct in letting or willingly allowing other players to Influence you. however works both ways and I've had some of my largest wins with camaraderie and unofficial Partnerships where we followed each other at the table and we made consistent wins and avoided losses But be forewarned that easily backfires and causes ill will and a fast decent to losing a buy in as well.
I click on the link and it has no price or option to buy the book, is there something wrong with the site or link above. See picture, no price and i can not buy the book with amazon link!
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Cheers
Goto www.amazon.com. Hopefully, You can buy the ebook for $50.00.
I'm having the same issue as Sputnik.
Thanks for the help, but i just wanted to mention there is no buy option and i did go to Amazon and search for the book with no results.
Is very rare that i buy a e-book as most of them has half the book about staking plans and the other half about win/loss targets and how to handle your money.
One thing common for most of the gambling books is that they don't include selection methods.
That is why i buy Stephen second edition as he had one selection method and it turn out to be worthless.
I feel i get more value for my money when i join BTC and that is 45 Euro each month.
Cheers
Our approach includes and approach to bet selection.
If you review the first post of this thread there is the link below the graphic of the title. At this time, the only format available is Kindle eBook. However, please keep in mind that Kindle books may be viewed on most computers, tablets, and smart phones. You could actually have our guide with you to refer to at the casino, and the house should not care less.
You can also go to Amazon and search for 'Baccarat Player's Advantage' and it should come right up (make sure you are at the main page as opposed to a certain product category like 'electronics' or 'beauty' which may filter results). Also, when searching for any books or items on baccarat the game, remember that you want to filter out search results for Baccarat the crystal items like vases and chandeliers...
There is also a link on our signature.
Please let us know if you are having trouble.
Quote from: 3Nine on July 06, 2017, 11:36:24 AM
Hey Jag, (Can I call you that?)
I took a look at the Amazon preview for this book and it seems very well written. Kudos for that. I just started playing baccarat (not sure how I passed it up all these years) so I'm not sure I'm ready to drop 50 on an ebook but wanted to say it seems to have a different feel from most strategy or system books.
Best,
3Nine
Apologies for not seeing this earlier. Thanks! You will be able to tell a player when you see one here or anywhere. Players put in work.
Print books definitely have an advantage, but we encourage you to separate legitimate books in eBook format from what some out there try to do in general which is scrap together some nth degree variation of content they didn't originate into another eBook. The information we present as with quite a lot we have seen on here and elsewhere really has substantial value because with any financial endeavor the stakes can be high and mistakes can be very costly.
Also, not sure what houses have access to, but we encourage everyone to get to a real house. A real house is not defined by the sugar like the ambiance, but real play where you can be around a lot of baccarat play and a lot of players who play consistently with size.
Quote from: Sputnik on July 06, 2017, 12:09:54 PM
I click on the link and it has no price or option to buy the book, is there something wrong with the site or link above. See picture, no price and i can not buy the book with amazon link!
(http://i67.tinypic.com/28715iu.jpg)
Cheers
See image, there is no price or e-book to buy following your Amazon link, same when i search for you e-book.
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Are you logged into your Amazon account when trying to purchase? In order to buy Kindle books you have to have an Amazon account (free to sign up for an Amazon account) because it is that account which manages your Kindle library. An Amazon account then provides the option to access your Kindle library on one or more devices. Some Kindle access is on the internet or you can download Kindle applications for free.
Is same when i sign in ,,, do difference ,,, i can view your e-book with no price or option to purchase/buy ...
Quote from: Armilar on July 06, 2017, 01:23:59 PM
I'm having the same issue as Sputnik.
Armilar has the same issue, so is not just me ...
Cheers
Our marketplace settings were off, which we just updated to worldwide. Thanks for informing us about this. It should take a few moments for Amazon to process the update, and then let us know.
'Your recent changes are currently under review. Titles are typically reviewed and published within 72 hours. Review times vary and may take longer if publishing rights need to be verified. Meanwhile, the previous version of your title is live in the Kindle Store and is available for purchase.'
^ It usually doesn't take this long...
LOL is working now and i can see a price and purchase/buy option is valid now.
Cheers
Jaguar88 i would like to ask some question about the selection methods in your book, is just yes an no questions.
1) Do you talk about patterns that you bet with or against in the known common way, for example you see three bankers and you can follow or bet against, is that the kind of level you talk about selections?
2) Do you talk about different sequences that you can define as different states of the random streams of banker and player bets?
3) Do you use banker and player as they come with out playing them separate where you can find one side being stronger and more easy to predict then the other?
4) Do you only talk about Follow the last and Decision before last among other known selection methods?
5) Do you recognice events (singles & series with different length) as most common events or least common events and base decision making upon that.
6) Do you with any kind of selection method try to explore the shoes bias sequence and can you show examples of tiny bias waves, middle bias waves, large bias waves with your selection or sequence methods?
I don't want to waste my money on your average baccarat book with no new angle or perspective.
Cheers
Our book is not average, and we find value in it. Whether or not you or anyone else buys it? We could not care less for sure because we play better by it. I will look over your questions and respond in due time.
Quote from: Jaguar88 on July 06, 2017, 04:16:46 PM
Our book is not average, and we find value in it. Whether or not you or anyone else buys it? We could not care less for sure because we play better by it. I will look over your questions and respond in due time.
That is not ok, you should give a hint how you play or give some kind of description.
For example, i see one single and one serie of five and one serie of two at banker side and decide that side is erratic. But on the Player side i get two singles and follow them and they continue to hit and i reach +4 units flat betting.
With that line i can understand some one use a trigger for the most common events and avoid erratic results and play banker and player side separate, two independent random streams to take advantage. But you give no hint and no reason to buy your book.
Who cares how you play if you can not give one example, some one post Dr Toms Baccarat System worth 750 Euro and use common patterns with imbalance and balance parameters.
So you could state that you use patterns and not sequence as states where the tendency is more important then the mechanical selection process.
You avoid my post in the wrong way, you should give something to base our mind upon if we want to buy or not.
Why are you selling your book if you don't want to sell it. Here on the forum board you are a sponsor and should care about members asking questions about your book to make more sales.
Lets take a look at your first post:QuoteFor your consideration...
Baccarat Player's Advantage is intended to be a guide to help improve the performance of the baccarat player. Just as in competitive sports and other high performance endeavors, successful baccarat play has as much to do with training, discipline, effective focus, and execution as anything. We believe that there is value in presenting a number of considerations related to these concepts that every baccarat player should hold at the forefront of play. We have found such considerations to be critically important after a substantial amount of time playing baccarat in live casinos.
I don't pay 50 Euro for reading a book about Mentalt health, discipline and how to stay focus. I would never pay money for that kind of average material.
QuoteEffective money management is the foundation for success in any endeavor where risk capital is put to work to attempt to generate returns. Successful baccarat play requires effective money management including establishing limits of loss to manage risk, setting targets to retain profit, determining a range of bet sizes as a basis for play under different conditions, and a plan to lock in winnings by sweeping profitable play off of the tables.
This is boring all books include how we should deal with our money at the table and as bankroll, all books include this and i reckon you have nothing new to offer. I never again pay money for that kind of average material.
QuoteThere are many different ways to assess a baccarat shoe as part of the bet selection process. We present a few of the most effective techniques that baccarat players tend to look at. It is important to note that nothing in our recommendations constitutes a fixed or dynamic system of play as commonly classified, advantaged play, or cheating. Yet the material we present may be used as a basis for your development of an approach to playing baccarat successfully. You may find that this discretionary decision making process works well for you or use this information to help develop a more systematic approach to the game.
This does not sound like any material or information taking you into a deeper level of understanding. I am very sceptical.
3 points for you.
First, our listing has the Amazon Look Inside feature and our view is that this provides a significant preview of the book.
Second, we stated that we would respond in due time and we haven't yet. We aren't going to proceed forward with a response while we have other matters we are attending to.
Lastly, and we truly you hope you catch the gravity of how you present yourself when you make pre-judgements and speak about wasting your time and money. We can clearly see from posts here and elsewhere who is searching for The Holy Grail and who wants to improve their performance playing baccarat.
It is a fact that intangibles and state of mind, etc. play a substantial factor on performance.
Do you credibly believe that baccarat would be offered of there is an A + B = C system that consistently generated returns?
Quote from: Jaguar88 on July 06, 2017, 06:22:26 PM
It is a fact that intangibles and state of mind, etc. play a substantial factor on performance.
This is a common misunderstanding. It only
appears that they are connected.
Quote from: Sputnik on July 06, 2017, 04:09:08 PM
Jaguar88 i would like to ask some question about the selection methods in your book, is just yes an no questions.
1) Do you talk about patterns that you bet with or against in the known common way, for example you see three bankers and you can follow or bet against, is that the kind of level you talk about selections?
2) Do you talk about different sequences that you can define as different states of the random streams of banker and player bets?
3) Do you use banker and player as they come with out playing them separate where you can find one side being stronger and more easy to predict then the other?
4) Do you only talk about Follow the last and Decision before last among other known selection methods?
5) Do you recognice events (singles & series with different length) as most common events or least common events and base decision making upon that.
6) Do you with any kind of selection method try to explore the shoes bias sequence and can you show examples of tiny bias waves, middle bias waves, large bias waves with your selection or sequence methods?
I don't want to waste my money on your average baccarat book with no new angle or perspective.
Cheers
1) Do you talk about patterns that you bet with or against in the known common way, for example you see three bankers and you can follow or bet against, is that the kind of level you talk about selections?
Our bet selection is based on a series of formations that may be found on the Big Road, Bead Plate, and Derived Roads.
2) Do you talk about different sequences that you can define as different states of the random streams of banker and player bets?
By evaluating what a baccarat shoe is producing in terms of outcome and series of outcomes, we view that there are situations were there is a stronger tendency for a future outcome given the structure of the as opposed to there always being a completely random next outcome.
3) Do you use banker and player as they come with out playing them separate where you can find one side being stronger and more easy to predict then the other?
Baccarat shoes that are Bank cut or Player cut (that side dominating with a clear majority of wins) present some of the best opportunities while that trend is being reinforced with continuation.
4) Do you only talk about Follow the last and Decision before last among other known selection methods?
If a baccarat shoe is exhibiting strong formations of chopping then we would align with that trend or tendency in our decision making. One of the clearest examples would be a Jumping Shoe where there are alternating wins by Bank and Player. However, it may be that the shoe builds a series of 3 or 4 wins in a row and then tends to jump to the alternate side winning.
5) Do you recognice events (singles & series with different length) as most common events or least common events and base decision making upon that.
We present and discuss what in our experience are the most commonly seen baccarat shoe formations.
6) Do you with any kind of selection method try to explore the shoes bias sequence and can you show examples of tiny bias waves, middle bias waves, large bias waves with your selection or sequence methods?
Every baccarat shoe will have a series of formations, trends, tendencies, etc. The most playable baccarat shoes have strong elements while some baccarat shoes are extremely difficult and choppy throughout. One could think of formations, trends, tendencies, etc. as waves and frequencies just like in the financial markets.
Quote from: 3Nine on July 06, 2017, 07:35:10 PM
This is a common misunderstanding. It only appears that they are connected.
They are absolutely connected. If you have a full systematic approach to baccarat with no discretion whatsoever then you are removing the human element from the game during play. However, you still developed it, right? Made decisions, structured it, etc.
Please present such a system here or elsewhere. It doesn't exist. If it did then baccarat would quickly not be offered as casinos could not afford to offer it. Our book is intended to assist players and just as in any competitive arena, all factors can weigh in. One can draw a direct parallel to the financial markets. Even the most wrote algorithms trading most likely still have a person behind their development.
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Quote from: Jaguar88 on July 06, 2017, 07:59:10 PM
They are absolutely connected.
No, they are not. Sorry, I can't let you off the hook here as the performance world has been my domain for the last 10 years.
Let's take another sport like golf. Simple example, two people approach the tee with the same talent and skill level. One has a free and clear mind, the other has a lot going on in his head and is a bit cloudy at the moment. Who hits the ball well?
They both do.
It's only when they THINK what's on their mind is important that it seems to effect their game - which is why I said it only appears that way. It has absolutely no connection. None. If you want a performance variable then that comes from skill and talent, not state of mind.
Sorry to derail the thread but this needs to be cleared up. Happy to chat about this outside of your thread.
Quote from: 3Nine on July 06, 2017, 08:38:52 PM
No, they are not. Sorry, I can't let you off the hook here as the performance world has been my domain for the last 10 years.
Let's take another sport like golf. Simple example, two people approach the tee with the same talent and skill level. One has a free and clear mind, the other has a lot going on in his head and is a bit cloudy at the moment. Who hits the ball well?
They both do.
It's only when they THINK what's on their mind is important that it seems to effect their game - which is why I said it only appears that way. It has absolutely no connection. None. If you want a performance variable then that comes from skill and talent, not state of mind.
Sorry to derail the thread but this needs to be cleared up. Happy to chat about this outside of your thread.
There are literally countless examples that support our view. Outside factors can have everything do with performance.
In your specific example with two golf players, absolutely if you were two test it out the player who is better set up for performance will perform better. Whether it was their breakfast, their shoes, their clubs, traffic on the way, their lover, the last shot, the score so far, how they are playing, politics or whatever is on their mind throughout the course of play can improve or hinder their performance. Whether it does, or their mental game allows it to occur, it has the same impact.
A person's mind is typically running on many different levels and most of them are sub conscious.
In fact, our position is that intangibles, factors outside of play, money management, and holding to stop limits and profit strategies are the most important factors to play for experienced players.
It only looks that way.
You could make a case that open umbrellas cause overflowing sewers. That doesn't make it true.
Quote from: 3Nine on July 06, 2017, 09:12:33 PM
It only looks that way.
You could make a case that open umbrellas cause overflowing sewers. That doesn't make it true.
You are speaking about things that are not relevant to each other. What we present in Baccarat Player's Advantage is directly relevant and very real. It is backed by real play in a real casino and experience over a substantial amount of time with consistent baccarat players.
It's extremely relevant and important to understand.
Anyway, good luck with the book sales. Like I said, it seems well-written so I may take a closer look about the game.
Speaking about life factors, energy and effective focus, time to play and time remaining to play, other players, travel to and from play, playing alone or in a group, borrowing and lending for play, the rituals of the game, where the action are at, etc. are directly relevant to baccarat.
Like we have stated repeatedly, what we present is grounded in real play not some simulations or theory. Our book is not for everyone and we never intended it to be. We couldn't care less, seriously. We aren't going to post up defending this and that about our work or trivial matters like price, etc. It really strikes as quite odd to see someone place serious 5 or 6 figures on one hand of baccarat and then entertain this kind of inquiry. And we don't play at that level.
I think this sums up what we think about whether you buy our book:
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Really? Then
A) why write it?
B) why promote it here?
Seems like nonsense to me. I hope your book makes more sense than that.
Quote from: 3Nine on July 06, 2017, 11:03:23 PM
Really? Then
A) why write it?
B) why promote it here?
Seems like nonsense to me. I hope your book makes more sense than that.
For the same reason many successful players post on BetSelection.cc when they really have no need or requirement. There really is no need for us to go into such details as to why or about the content of the book when it is very clearly presented in the listing, and there is more than a sufficient preview. Why do people develop books and all sorts of services related to poker? Unlike baccarat, poker is direct competition with other players.
Furthermore, arguing that the sun does not rise in the south is really of no interest to us at all.
Quote from: Jaguar88 on July 06, 2017, 11:35:04 PM
For the same reason many successful players post on BetSelection.cc when they really have no need or requirement. There really is no need for us to go into such details as to why or about the content of the book when it is very clearly presented in the listing, and there is more than a sufficient preview. Why do people develop books and all sorts of services related to poker? Unlike baccarat, poker is direct competition with other players.
Furthermore, arguing that the sun does not rise in the south is really of no interest to us at all.
You may want to hire someone with sales experience to promote your work. You're failing miserably. Most poker players write a book because they need money. Hmm.
As for the sun comment, if that's directed towards me you may want to reconsider my earlier posts. What I pointed to about the mind is a FACT. What you're posting is your opinion and 'experience'
You just lost one sale. I wonder how many others you don't care about.
Good luck.
Quote from: 3Nine on July 06, 2017, 11:51:18 PMI wonder how many others you don't care about.
All of them. We aren't going to entertain further discussion with you. To summarize your statements today:
- You are new to baccarat.
- $50 is a lot of money.
- Psychological and other factors have no bearing on competitive activity.
We strongly recommend you look into sports psychology to start. How about Stanford University?
Stanford University
Sport Psychology Services
http://www.gostanford.com/news/2016/9/19/athletics-sport-psychology-services.aspx
Maybe the US Olympic Team is more your level?
'Exceptional mental skills are necessary for exceptional Olympic performance, and USOC psychologists work with the National Governing Bodies to help athletes best prepare for competition.'http://www.teamusa.org/About-the-USOC/Athlete-Development/Sport-Performance/Psychology
Quote from: Jaguar88 on July 07, 2017, 12:19:26 AM
All of them.
We aren't going to entertain further discussion with you. To summarize your statements today:
- You are new to baccarat.
- $50 is a lot of money.
- Psychological and other factors have no bearing on competitive activity.
We strongly recommend you look into sports psychology to start. How about Stanford University?
Stanford University
Sport Psychology Services
http://www.gostanford.com/news/2016/9/19/athletics-sport-psychology-services.aspx
Nice try. More assumptions. How do you know I'm not a sport psychologist?
Who said $50 was a lot of money? Another assumption.
And I NEVER said the third one. What I said was EXTERNAL factors have no bearing on your INTERNAL experience. Do you change the score of a game by looking at the scoreboard? It is not cause/effect. It does not work that way.
The first is the only true thing you wrote (new to baccarat) but that has NOTHING to do with finances. I don't need to play baccarat or sell books for money.
I also don't need to pool my money with a "team"
Well, people. I hope this all cleared up 'his' book for you, too.
3Nine,
You might want to tone down your baiting in order for this discussion to continue.
Serious questions are always acceptable but leading or taunting is not, at least not after the first 20 or so like so many do here.
AD
Quote from: 3Nine on July 07, 2017, 12:26:56 AM
What I said was EXTERNAL factors have no bearing on your INTERNAL experience. Do you change the score of a game by looking at the scoreboard? It is not cause/effect. It does not work that way.
This sums up what you have presented today. EXTERNAL factors have no bearing on your INTERNAL experience. Are you joking?
EVERYTHING CAN HAVE A BEARING on competition. As we stated, we aren't going to continue entertaining your argument that the sun rises in the south.
Quote from: ADulay on July 07, 2017, 12:33:38 AM
3Nine,
You might want to tone down your baiting in order for this discussion to continue.
Serious questions are always acceptable but leading or taunting is not, at least not after the first 20 or so like so many do here.
AD
Seriously? There is no discussion and I don't care if it continues. He's here to sell books, period.
Apologies for speaking the truth. I'm out.
Quote from: 3Nine on July 07, 2017, 12:41:30 AM
Seriously? There is no discussion and I don't care if it continues. He's here to sell books, period.
Apologies for speaking the truth. I'm out.
What truth is that? That fact that you make statements about performance that counter nth degree of research and findings completed by academic, professional, and institutional organizations?
You should quit while you are behind, and of course you know the truth about assumptions as well. New to the game, new to the forum, and you are the authority. Understood.
Jaguar88 i hope you reach your public and that they would benefit from your writing, personal is just not right for me.
One good thing come out from our cross roads, i notice that your settings at Amazon was not correct and you could correct them after i put some light on the subject.
Cheers
Quote from: Sputnik on July 07, 2017, 03:35:25 AM
Jaguar88 i hope you reach your public and that they would benefit from your writing, personal is just not right for me.
One good thing come out from our cross roads, i notice that your settings at Amazon was not correct and you could correct them after i put some light on the subject.
Cheers
Thanks very much. The issue with selecting a market for any business, service or product is that the law, copyright law, and application of those laws in courts differs depending on the country. Publishing via Amazon Kindle is protective, but a US copyright is limited in scope when considering worldwide markets.
Our approach to play could be represented by a system, but it would mostly require a prioritization/ weighting overlay.
No matter what you do in life you are always going to encounter resistance. A lot of it comes from those on the sidelines who don't have what it takes to get on the field and take risk. Look into Grant Cardone and what he has achieved, where he has been in life, and how far he has traveled and you will be better for it.
This is why we arrive at a point where we couldn't care less what some think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYfAVXi9A_Q
Last night the top player in the house made it to watch the trail end of a very strong formation in the early part of a baccarat shoe - a Long Dragon/ Long Dragon Tail. If that player was actively playing the shoe into that formation, they would have taken advantage in a way that very few players are capable of. The shoe continued to result in outperformance by that side for a good number of hands after the break. There was more to that part of the baccarat shoe that we won't disclose which also was very favorable.
A second player of large size was riding this formation and part of the shoe on a substantial win back. A while later they were at another table with the good fortune of getting right on another Long Dragon/ Long Dragon Tail.
There was at least one player betting counter to the formation who got quite deep into the red as a result. This is an approach we advise against because formations can continue to persist for a number of consecutive hands.
Although the Long Dragon/ Long Dragon Tail is one of the clearest types of formations found in baccarat, it is often the strength of formations or trends that matter most rather than the specific type.
Such strong formations are a prime opportunity to achieve big wins, but you have to be at the right place at the right time. This is where understanding the dynamics of play and the casino environment pay off. It's a discussion we place great importance on in Baccarat Player's Advantage.
And it is these times when you encounter remarkable baccarat formations/ trends that will make up for when you play into very difficult series of play.
Baccarat involves determining degree of difficulty. Your style of play should adjust according to the strength of formations at hand and higher degrees of difficulty are prevalent when formations are weak to almost non-existent. Take a look at the following. Which would you rather play through? The strong Jumping Shoe formation clearly offers more potential as it is clear and there are no breaks... yet. The second series of hands is also a Jumping Shoe formation, but it is relatively weak with many breaks and disruption.
This is what we discuss in Baccarat Player's Advantage.
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Very few players these days can successfully ride an 8 to 15 hand chop chop! Years ago it was common place. Some of the easiest and biggest money to be won, is on the "science' mode I wrote about earlier today. The 'science' mode contains that chop chop, love it when it comes! Caught one last week with over 15 squares, and everyone was so amazed.
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Very few players these days can successfully ride an 8 to 15 hand chop chop! Years ago it was common place. Some of the easiest and biggest money to be won, is on the "science' mode I wrote about earlier today. The 'science' mode contains that chop chop, love it when it comes! Caught one last week with over 15 squares, and everyone was so amazed.
It takes great strength to capitalize because so many factors in the game will cause doubt.
5 minutes from now, baccarat will be dealing. 7 weeks from now, baccarat will be dealing. 319 days from now, baccarat will be dealing.
Keep this concept in mind when you are short on time to play or your situation will make playing even more difficult.
The debates will rage on until the end of time. You either believe in hard work, skill, and talent or you don't. If you were to study the game of basketball, you will find that many of the greatest of all time have learned from the greatest of all time. We are learning every day.
Learn how a player can effectively perform in baccarat.
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Singapore and Macau are notorious for employee/customer scam artists.
I am sure that they are reviewing the surveillance videos backwards and forwards and in super slow motion to try to find out what "really" happened.........................something smells really bad.
There are many scenes in movies that attempt to portray what might be possible in gaining an inside edge on baccarat. We will be watching for any developments on this story. The great thing about being the house is that there are lots of numbers and large numbers on their side.
There are many reasons why in our view Baccarat Online 3D is a great app to have! It is one of the most realistic ways to learn and train when away from the tables. It is available for free on Apple and Android systems.
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Terrible 2's or 2's are a common formation in a baccarat shoe. Although it is possible to encounter clean, strong formation of 2's as in the first example, you most likely will see one or more breaks along the way as shown in the second example.
It is decision making on the plays subsequent to a break that can make a big difference. If a formation is strong, it is most likely best to have a bias to it continuing after the first break. One could also sideline with no bet to see the outcome of the next few hands.
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What does mastery in business and sales have to do with winning baccarat?
If you put in work, you will see results. Train like you're playing and play like you train. Never stop learning.
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The number one reason players do not capitalize on strong formations in baccarat is that they are not prepared. It can be very hard to have confidence that such strong formations can continue on and on.
Winning preparation includes thinking out ways that you will play out such a formation in advance in terms of following what the baccarat shoe is showing and positive progression and adjustments in bet size.
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The debate rages on non-stop. In one camp, there are people who clearly don't play that drone on an on and on about 'the long run', 'success rate over x many trials', theoretical concepts, statistics, etc. They will never stop searching for the holy grail that they think they can find. They will never understand a modern shuffled and cut baccarat shoe or the strategy of playing into what a shoe is showing. They will never understand the casino dynamic because they never go.
In the other camp you have those hard at work mastering the fundamentals of the game who bleed in training with the goals of bleeding less in real play. Those who are into the night at insane hours with their brothers and sisters on both sides of the table. Those that produce real win.
Which camp do you want to be in?
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We don't know which is worse. The statistical and mathematical psycho babble that rages on non-stop from people that clearly don't play baccarat at all, but will tell you all about house edge and 'In the long run', or the posers that rip on anyone who presents insight into the game. WHO DO YOU THINK IS USING INSIGHT INTO THE GAME THEY WRITE?
This is a set of notes on a white board from the New England Patriots who staged the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history to win Super Bowl LI. Want to see their playbook? We bet it's in a book!
Baccarat Player's Advantage is a summation of thousands upon thousand of hours of real play.
If you are looking for easy, GO HOME. If you want to be real and start getting results, PUT IN WORK!
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"We don't know which is worse. The statistical and mathematical psycho babble that rages on non-stop from people that clearly don't play baccarat at all, but will tell you all about house edge and 'In the long run', or the posers that rip on anyone who presents insight into the game. WHO DO YOU THINK IS USING INSIGHT INTO THE GAME THEY WRITE?"= :thumbsup: (Careful Jaguar--makes too much sense!)
I have wrote extensively on frame-of-mind, psych, players, dealers, the game, the mind, effects on players that hurt players, etc.., etc. etc. This game of baccarat has nothing to do with what so many think, 'find a magical path to follow and clean house on the casino' such as so many systems sellers and people attempt to con people into thinking, in order to sell their magical system, etc.'
What Jaguar is saying, hard work, more to it, etc., is absolutely 1,000,000% correct and spot on. I have sat down and lost $25k, $50k and, as well as $3k. I have sat down and won, $10k, $30k, $90k, $150k, etc. It is 100% possible. Not every time, no possible physical way whatsoever. However, if you really get into your frame-of-mind, the game, the reasoning's, the variation, the happenings, the players, the people, the casino's offerings, the possibilities, your psych, etc., etc., etc., you will be sitting a great seat to be able to clean-house on the casino when the opportunity is presenting itself, IF YOU HAVE IT ALL FIGURED OUT, and it has nothing at all to do with following a magical newly discovered $49.99 or a $1,500.00 set wagering pattern sold to you.
As Jaguar said, it is hard work, trial and error, knowing whom to get your info from, knowing what you can and cannot do, knowing what systems are and how they work and when they work, knowing your thoughts, reactions, reserves and all that. Knowing what to do with the win money and everything that is going to happen with win money if you use it solely for aggressive progressions to smack the casino, etc. It is not easy, but once you figure it out, it really is 'almost' easy.
Quote from: alrelax on August 23, 2017, 02:24:52 PM
"We don't know which is worse. The statistical and mathematical psycho babble that rages on non-stop from people that clearly don't play baccarat at all, but will tell you all about house edge and 'In the long run', or the posers that rip on anyone who presents insight into the game. WHO DO YOU THINK IS USING INSIGHT INTO THE GAME THEY WRITE?"= :thumbsup: (Careful Jaguar--makes too much sense!)
I have wrote extensively on frame-of-mind, psych, players, dealers, the game, the mind, effects on players that hurt players, etc.., etc. etc. This game of baccarat has nothing to do with what so many think, 'find a magical path to follow and clean house on the casino' such as so many systems sellers and people attempt to con people into thinking, in order to sell their magical system, etc.'
What Jaguar is saying, hard work, more to it, etc., is absolutely 1,000,000% correct and spot on. I have sat down and lost $25k, $50k and, as well as $3k. I have sat down and won, $10k, $30k, $90k, $150k, etc. It is 100% possible. Not every time, no possible physical way whatsoever. However, if you really get into your frame-of-mind, the game, the reasoning's, the variation, the happenings, the players, the people, the casino's offerings, the possibilities, your psych, etc., etc., etc., you will be sitting a great seat to be able to clean-house on the casino when the opportunity is presenting itself, IF YOU HAVE IT ALL FIGURED OUT, and it has nothing at all to do with following a magical newly discovered $49.99 or a $1,500.00 set wagering pattern sold to you.
As Jaguar said, it is hard work, trial and error, knowing whom to get your info from, knowing what you can and cannot do, knowing what systems are and how they work and when they work, knowing your thoughts, reactions, reserves and all that. Knowing what to do with the win money and everything that is going to happen with win money if you use it solely for aggressive progressions to smack the casino, etc. It is not easy, but once you figure it out, it really is 'almost' easy.
Thank you so much for this comment! We are aligned in our view and understanding of the game with what you have shared with everyone about it and really learn a lot from your perspective on the game. This is a position that gets burned in from playing among players for countless hours, doing things right and doing things wrong, and watching others do the same.
We should always be aware of how easy it is to fall down from progress made whether it is over the last several hands, that night, or that week. One of the worst things that can happen is to experience an outsized gain on a night start to slip away with consecutive losses because it is very easy to have thoughts that 'you are owed a certain amount of win'. And there are so many scenarios where you really have to reign in your decision making and make the smartest moves possible either to capitalize or mitigate a bad streak.
A Tale of 4 Players:
This example shows how a player's position can greatly affect their view and mindset towards the play at hand. With this formation we would advise betting on Bank only, staying on the sideline if you think you came in too late, or betting high payout only.
Player 1 has been at this table for quite a while. They were able to catch some wins on the 4 Bank in a row that just occurred and then are in a great position by starting to bet on Bank again after two Players and one Bank transpired. Although they lost on the 3rd Bank in a row by betting Player for a possible 2's formation, they decided to bet Bank on very next hand. They took the risk to stay on what is now a very long Bank Dragon Tail of 9 Bank in a row. They play in line with the strong formation at hand.
They are betting high payout bets along the way and are well up no matter what happens this hand. In addition to the game, their mind is drifting to thinking about the very attractive dealer and the players sitting at position 2 and 3 who clearly are dressed to kill and have been very fun to play with. This formation has made a good part of their night and they are enjoying every minute of it.
Player 2 stepped in on this long Bank Dragon at win number 7 in a row, capturing 8 and 9. They are now at 2 wins and 0 losses going into the next play so unless they are into a heavy positive progression, they should come out ahead even if the next hand loses. They are disappointed that they didn't see this earlier and get on what is clearly a strong formation. They are looking to maximize the opportunity remaining by betting on Bank and also are making high payout bets.
Player 3 is on a 4 loss losing streak. They are getting upset and wonder how they can be so unlucky over the last few hands. They happen to notice the large number of players at this table and walk over to see this Long Bank Dragon. Where have they been? Why didn't they see this earlier? They now see this is a more sure way to turn things around and get a win on the books. They bet on Bank only even though they usually make high payout bets.
Player 4 is getting run over. They thought that Player would win after 4 Bank wins in a row was reached a second time. They then continued to bet Player repeatedly and with bigger size looking for a jump in the shoe to make up for their loss. They are shocked that Bank continues to win and are now well in the red because they have continued to increase their bet size to taking a 5 consecutive loss hit. Every negative thought and experience about the game is hammering down on them and they are almost wiped out. How can this be happening?
The next hand is dealt.... Player Natural 9 win.
If you play the Baccarat Player's Advantage way, you will most likely have an experience very similar to Player 1, Player 2, and even Player 3, but never Player 4.
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The statistic experts and math wiz's certainly don't play (for real) only in their play minds on this board. Correct. Stats and math generally mean nothing and when it does--it is just a 'fleeting' coincidence. Bottom line is, it makes everything else just as often in real life as it does a stat or a math 'has to', etc.
Players get 'sucked in' more so then anything else. I wrote about it and Jaguar wrote some about it.
The silliest thing and as well, the most insane thing about this game is, it is really NOT THAT HARD, once you understand everything but (BUT-NOT) statistics and the math, which mean nothing like I said.
I am going to write a piece about this player, 'Amy' the other night, fits right perfectly here, 100%. I will write it in my Blog where I post moist everything. Thanks.
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The statistic experts and math wiz's certainly don't play (for real) only in their play minds on this board. Correct. Stats and math generally mean nothing and when it does--it is just a 'fleeting' coincidence. Bottom line is, it makes everything else just as often in real life as it does a stat or a math 'has to', etc.
Players get 'sucked in' more so then anything else. I wrote about it and Jaguar wrote some about it.
The silliest thing and as well, the most insane thing about this game is, it is really NOT THAT HARD, once you understand everything but (BUT-NOT) statistics and the math, which mean nothing like I said.
I am going to write a piece about this player, 'Amy' the other night, fits right perfectly here, 100%. I will write it in my Blog where I post moist everything. Thanks.
Been tied up, but with a good amount at the tables throwing plays down range as hard as ever. Do you have a link on the piece about the player you mention? Thanks!
He is speaking about exactly what we do with baccarat all of the time. Baccarat Player's Advantage will get your head in the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSjYuDbDR2g&t=312s
Quote from: Jaguar88 on September 04, 2017, 12:55:04 PM
Been tied up, but with a good amount at the tables throwing plays down range as hard as ever. Do you have a link on the piece about the player you mention? Thanks!
These are people I play with regularly at the local casinos, not Vegas/AC and some of the larger properties in Southern California. But as an overall view-observance over the past 7 years or so--these are very very common 'average' players with little or lots of funding, the game has changed in the years around 2004/5 to 2008 if you ask me.
http://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/mentality-more-than-anything-else!/
Also, this is related as well:
http://betselection.cc/alrelax's-blog/figuring-it-all-outtrying-to-make-it-less-complicated/
Side note: I stopped by the one casino I played at Thursday and Friday nights as I wrote about also, did very well on Fortune 7's with $40-$50 out there a few times and caught the winning F-7's. Anyway, last night, I was passing by and stopped in. Bought in with an extremely low amount of money just to fiddle around with a very close buddy that i have not seen for a couple of months. He was on something and had the feeling. Pointed out to me what it was, had to due with winning hand point values, combined with the trend, and a couple of other things. I am not one to bet a mechanical bet placement, and he does quite a bit. But I saw what he did also and 'Amy' and another player that will constantly wager negative progression was well into it. Out of at least 20 wagers we got 15 of them correct. Every time, no--no way and I would never do it. But it was there and when it is there---you HAVE TO TAKE it and not wager against it. That is where the huge PSYCH factor comes into play I have wrote about extensively. I turned a very small amount of money into about $2k in those hands, of course I should have been wagering $300 to $500 or even $700-$800. But i was not in the mind frame to play, I know my buddy wagers almost similar to what he was preaching to me, but it was there and when it is there that is EZ-pickings. 'Amy' and the other players lost huge money, at least $25k wagering strictly pink chips in the 20 or so hands. They hit a couple and started a come-back, but it was so obvious we were both wagering low on the side that we thought and out of sheer respect because we do get along for the other ones, we never made eye contact with them or their wagers before the cards came out. 'Amy' and the other guy got wiped out and the rest of the table did okay. If the whole table was together, the camaraderie and the wins would have been huge, but people are far too stubborn and believe too much in their attempt to change the shoe presentments!!!! And, almost all of their losses were over their instance to play the 'cut' when it was obviously strong and then when it was weak (chop-chop) they insisted on the repeats that never came. The other things we were following were point value winnings and losings, which I rather not get into here because it only causes some members to blast back about superstitions, etc.
Sad but true.
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Seriously? There is no discussion and I don't care if it continues. He's here to sell books, period.
Apologies for speaking the truth. I'm out.
3Nine, we are calling you out. You haven't made a single post on BetSelection.cc since you posted up to berate us for our work on baccarat. Not a single comment on baccarat or any other game on here. Go start a thread on the game under the baccarat section and back up your mouth. Who in the hell do you think is capitalizing most on putting together our approach to the game? We're players. Who are you?
And before you start to run your mouth again, you ought to consider who writes books and who conducts training.
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Quote from: ekeoma.prince on September 08, 2017, 09:32:01 AM
I read your system and it's a very complicated and does not beat the odds. I read Tabone's book and Kuzer's book too. Tabone's book on amazon the silver bullet proof baccarat winning strategy, seems to be the beat system out there that win. Kuzer's system is weak. Wizard book does not have a working system and he just goes with a banker betting flow that does not work.
Do you have any straightforward system/s, easy to follow?
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Quote from: ekeoma.prince on September 08, 2017, 09:32:01 AM
I read your system and it's a very complicated and does not beat the odds. I read Tabone's book and Kuzer's book too. Tabone's book on amazon the silver bullet proof baccarat winning strategy, seems to be the beat system out there that win. Kuzer's system is weak. Wizard book does not have a working system and he just goes with a banker betting flow that does not work.
Do you have any straightforward system/s, easy to follow?
Simple review of your posts and comparison to other new posters over the past few months will illustrate that you are in fact Stephen Tabone or someone from his group. Typical patterns of posts are attacks and personal attacks paired with recommendations for Stephen Tabone's works. This is very clear and this site's administration as well as many on here are fully aware of it. Please stop.
Furthermore, our approach to play requires implementation and skill. We can not provide a guarantee or warranties on how anyone will apply it, and the results they will achieve.
Quote from: alrelax on July 06, 2017, 11:41:08 AM
you are absolutely correct in letting or willingly allowing other players to Influence you. however works both ways and I've had some of my largest wins with camaraderie and unofficial Partnerships where we followed each other at the table and we made consistent wins and avoided losses But be forewarned that easily backfires and causes ill will and a fast decent to losing a buy in as well.
I still stick by this and this is one of the most powerful and best ways to win in a B&M Casino, but be forewarned, it easily backfires!