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#1
1) In knowing that (Each Corner Of Every Twelve) Surrounds the Double 00, including 8 and 29, you have just memorized 1/3 rd of the wheel.

2) "Favorite FOURS" 5-17-20-32 (1/4 turn from the O) with 2-14-23-35 (Next to the 0) all located in the middle row are your next set of "Hot Spot Numbers"

3) Second Dozen numbers are all located every other number 1/4 turn from each of the 0-00's.

This is good to know when you decide to play roulette during busy nights when everyone floods each number with chips and covering the location.
#2
Dice Games Forum / Re: 2 sides to craps
October 24, 2013, 05:53:55 AM
Quote from: Turner on May 11, 2013, 09:30:22 PM
Craps has the lowest house edge in the casino available. it also has the worse (as high as 17%)


See attached where it's a fair game and a total rip off (in red)


The 2 sides to craps
Firstly, There are 36 combos of the 2 dice. This gives these chances for the dice to roll. Most probable first.
7, 6 or 8, 5 or 9, 4 or 10, 3 or 11, 2 or 12 = 6:1, 7.2:1, 9:1, 12:1, 18:1, 36:1
Ex. There are 6 ways to roll a 7, hence 6:1 = 6&1, 1&6, 5&2, 2&5, 4&3, 3&4
Ex. There are 2 ways to roll an 11 hence 18:1 = 6&5, 5&6

The table, firstly is split into two. There is the game of craps and the game of id.iots.
See red areas on attachment for idio.ts who want to give the casino a ridiculous house edge
The game of craps: Pass/don't pass, Come, don't come, 4,5,6,8,9,10

The game of idiots: anything in the red area
we know 12 is 36:1. The proposition bet for double six is  31 for 1. Notice the word "for". there's another con to make the odds look higher. 31 for 1 is with your bet back. its 30:1. that's 14% house edge !!!!!. Jesus!

They all range from 9% to 17%. Any 7 is 17%? that's the most to hit number at 6:1 and they pay 4:1, although it looks far more attractive written as 5 for 1

BIG 6 and BIG 8. pays evens. Just flex your arm 12 inches and get 6/5 straight on the number. You get better odds and a bit of exercise


The game
The Game is defiantly dual.  In a way, there are 2 games. The come out game and the Point game.
  When a shooter rolls his first roll it is the Come out roll. We can bet on this. On the Pass line or the don't pass.

Pass line.

7, 11 will win and 2,3,12 will lose. Maths is favourable to win an evens bet due to 7 comes out most mathematically in the come out game.  But the maths are against you in the Point game because you will be wanting less higher odds numbers like 4,5,6,8,9,10 to roll before a 7. So 7 or 11 wins on the come out

don't pass line.
2,3 or 12 will win on the come out roll.  A 7 will lose. Maths is favourable to lose due to 7 comes out most mathematically in the come out game.  But the maths are with you in the Point game because you will be wanting 7 against ANY other numbers apart from the point.
To make sure the house edge is tweaked, 12 is a push.....not a win. In some casinos, 2 is a push and 12 wins.
As for real estate, the biggest and most visible places to bet favour the house.


The pass line is bigger than the Don't Pass.


The COME is bigger than the Don't come. Even the font is capital for COME.

They want you to go into the Point game mathematically worse off. That's why you can't take a PASS bet down. The small DON'T PASS area is small because once you get to the POINT game you are mathematically better off. That's why they let you take your bet down ......They want you to!


It works too....I have no stats, but I bet 90% play PASS/COME (right betting) against 10% DON'T PASS/DON'T COME (wrong betting or charmingly known as "The dark side")


Actually, the don't pass has a tiny bit less house edge than the pass bet. It 0.1% perhaps,  1.36% for don't pass, 1.42% for PASS


See it cynically, it helps you make the right decisions.

COME OUT dice
2 = Pass lose,  Don't pass win
3 = Pass lose,  Don't pass win
4 = point, Pass and Don't Pass stay on the table
5 = point, Pass and Don't Pass stay on the table
6 = point, Pass and Don't Pass stay on the table
7 = Pass win,  Don't pass lose
8 = point, Pass and Don't Pass stay on the table
9 = point, Pass and Don't Pass stay on the table
10 = point, Pass and Don't Pass stay on the table
11 = Pass win,  Don't pass lose
12 = Pass lose,  Don't pass win

POINT game.
Once the come out roll is over, the come out game is done. The come out roll will continue as long as 2,3,7,11,12 is rolled. By the way, 2,3,12 are craps. Once a 4,5,6,8,9,10 is rolled, the POINT game is working.

Come out roll, PASS line bet 1U...rolls 4. This is the end of the come out game. We are in the point game and 4 is the point.


A big white puck is placed above the 4.


Now, you don't want a 7, but you do want a 4 because the point has been hit and a new come out roll will be thrown. If a 4 is rolled, you win your PASS bet, evens. You can see the odds are against you

Come out roll, don't PASS line bet 1U...rolls 4. This is the end of the come out game. We are in the point game and 4 is the point. A big white puck is placed above the 4. Now, you don't want a 4, but you do want a 7.


If a 4 is rolled, you lose your don't PASS bet, if a 7 is rolled, you win, evens. You can see how the odds are with you.

isn't this easy?.....NO

Variance

The casino know the dice don't go 7,6,8,7,7,6,8,5,4,9,8,7,6,4,9,8,8,7,8,6,7,10,2,7,8,6,6,12
that's mathematically very nice

Its going to be more like 10,8,4,12,2,3,7,6,10,4,4,9,10,12,2 on occasions

So you could say "playwrongto catch the maths in the Point game", or you could say "playrightto catch the variance in the Point game"


Like roulette, 7 will be dominant followed by 6,8,5,9,4,10,11,3,2,12 over 10000 rolls, even then 6 may hit more than 7, 9 wouldn't thought. I've tested this many times. Over 10K 6 can dominate. Over 1million rolls, its in line.

When i say rolls, i mean random.org dice rolls.

EXAMPLES of play
New shooter, "they're coming out!"
Pass line bet $5.
11 win, Pass line bet $5.
5....the point is established at 5
6,6,8,10,7 LOSE
New shooter, "they're coming out!"
Pass line bet $5.
8, the point is 8. 11,12,6,8 WIN

New shooter, "they're coming out!"
Don't Pass line bet $5.
3 win, Don't Pass line bet $5, 10 the point is 10
4,6,6,10 lose
Don't Pass line bet $5. 5, the point is 5, 7 WIN

New shooter, "they're coming out!"
Don't Pass line bet $5. 7, lose


Free odds.


When the point is make you can take the odds on your PASS bet and lay the odds on your don't PASS bet.


These are 1 x your bet, or can be  2 or 3x your bet depending on the casino.


These are house edge free. 0% house edge.


Playing the PASS line and take the odds, and you win because the point hits, you will be paid evens on your PASS bet and what ever the true odds are for the POINT

Point hits
6 & 8 pays 6/5
5 & 9 pays 3/2
4 & 10 pays 2/1


Playing the don't PASS line and lay the odds, and you win because 7 hits, You will be paid evens on your don't PASS bet and what ever the true odds are for the POINT


7 hits
6 & 8 pays 5/6
5 & 9 pays 2/3
4 & 10 pays 1/2

All Odds aside, I see on occasion when I visit the Craps table at the Casino. I see 4 come out 4 times in a row, I see 12 more times than I see any kind of run of 6 or 8. I also see seven out far to many times than I can imagine vs a shooter having a run of 8 numbers in a row.

Dice games are just so Random, its hard to just bet the best Odds.
#3
Quote from: Albalaha on June 02, 2013, 07:13:24 AM
Can someone please email me "14 Months at the Sic-Bo Table"?
      I need it for some tests.

Don't waste your money, having a database of SicBo results will serve you absolutely no purpose.

This is a completely random game with no Repeating "Law of Averages"

some days you will see a run of 15-18 times to Number 1 came in, but does not show a repeating day after day. there is no way to make a "Law of average" for this game. It's just way to random.
#4
I feel sorry for the "Craps" Players and any of their betting methods.

Sic Bo Blows the game away when it comes to Winning and ODDS.

example:
Craps has "Two Dice"
if you get a HARD 4 or 10 pays 8 to 1
in Sic Bo, There are "THREE DICE"
if you roll a pair of 2's or a pair of 5's you get 12 to 1 ODDS and its much easier to roll a pair with "Three Dice" than it is with "Two Dice"
There are many other ODDS advantages in Sic Bo in comparison to "Craps" I don't know why anyone would still play the game other than for a "Fun Experience"
#5
Baccarat Forum / Re: Opinions?
October 24, 2013, 05:22:17 AM
Quote from: esoito on April 16, 2013, 01:06:07 AM
Some interesting claims made here:   http://www.casinogenius.biz/Home.html


Malcop...ADulay...what's your opinion?

DON'T PAY ANYTHING!

Anyone who has a very good baccarat method will always offer it FREE.

I play Baccarat pretty approx 2-3 visits per day, 4-5 times per week, 2-6 hrs per visit.
I see many "System Players" at my tables playing side by side and I've yet to see a "Good Working Long Term System"

Do not pay for any system. There are many that are very good.

Keep your money in your pocket and hang out at the baccarat rooms and you will see the winners at most tables because they are loud players.

Follow their techniques and make money.
#6
Quote from: ADulay on May 05, 2013, 06:04:07 PM
All,

  Well, maybe not right away, but it's coming, bet on it.

  Stadium type table games are basically a live dealer and a "stadium" of live betting terminals.

  Think of it as a lot like those 8 station roulette machines you may see, but with "extra" seats.

  How many?   Well, there are currently 4000 or so stadium seats available in Macau and they are forecasting upwards of 6000 available player stations in the next 5 years.

  Why "stadium" type of roulette, baccarat, sic-bo?   Look to the MONEY, of course!   At a normal 7 station baccarat table, you get 7 players against one shoe.  At a stadium type of live baccarat tabel, you can have 50 players all on the same live shoe!   It's a no brainer for the casino.

  All that and the dealer's no longer have to handle any of the money as it's all done right at your personal terminal.

  So, if you've been wondering what the direction of table games are, simply look to Macau and it should be obvious.

  AD (article summarized from the Macau Business Daily)

This is really awesome!
#7
Baccarat Forum / Re: A simple idea for Baccarat
October 24, 2013, 05:09:56 AM
Quote from: Bally6354 on October 09, 2013, 11:24:59 PM
Can't really say I play much Baccarat...however I had a free casino bonus to play online and decided to give it a go.

I decided to follow the advice from the Wiz and stick to Banker. It was a bad move because Player won 20 out of the first 27 hands. But it got me thinking. Player won the first hand, Banker won the second hand and then Player went on a streak.

So how about playing whatever the first decision is for the rest of the shoe as long as it stays ahead or at least equal with the alternative bet.

It's a simple idea and I wonder if anyone has tried it or tested it.

You can never go more than one decision behind in any shoe. The only sticky point may be if you are betting bank and it stays even. You are going to be paying the 5% and not going anywhere fast.

cheers

Choose your betting style and go with it.

If you area Positive bettor, then simply follow the outcome of each hand and bet with it.
If you are a negative bettor then simply bet the opposite of each outcome.

If you choose to play only Banker, then the best advise is to wait for Banker to win and then make your bet on Banker. If Player comes, then wait till Banker wins before making your next bet.

if you choose a "Stepladder" style betting, then you can chase your Bet of choice.
#8
Re; the post above.

Don't be fooled by many answers to your question.
Keep in mind that Baccarat as close to 50/50 as it gets is completely random. I find the more random the better when it comes to shuffling, but no matter how cards are shuffled or burn cards removed, same results occur from tables = 50/50 random hands.
#9
Quote from: esoito on October 24, 2013, 02:16:10 AM
Here's a quote from a baccarat publication:

For some reason, baccarat decisions tend to alternate between streaks dominated by either player or
banker decisions or periods of alternating and choppy decisions.

While this can also be said of roulette and craps as well, these events are more prevalent in baccarat.


Your thoughts -- Yes? No?

This is just a comparison. I just posted a "Law of Average" in another thread of what I see in the casino. Yes it is correct because the % is very close between the Choppy tables vs. Streaky tables.
#10
Baccarat Forum / Baccarat - "Law Of average" vs "Math"
October 24, 2013, 04:59:11 AM
What I see in the game of Baccarat:

1) I see an average consecutive run of 13-18 Bankers / Players at least "Twice" a day (5%) in the Casino. (5 out of 100 games)

2) I see approximately 40% of the tables are bad mixing Bankers / Players in random orders not showing any patterns.

3) I see consecutive runs of 8 Bankers / Players at least "Twenty times" a day in the Casino. (20 out of 100 games or 20% of the time).

4) I see many tables having consecutive runs of 3 and 4 in a row, many times throughout the day. (30 out of 100 games or 35%).

I play live baccarat at the casino approx 6-8hrs per day and notice the "Law of Average" to look forward to day after day.


#11
Good method for "Even Money" bets playing both sides of the coin. (Baccarat, Roulette, Craps, Hi Lo)

Bet Progression is 25, 50, 75, 50, 75, 100, 125, 150, 200, 100, 150, 200


       
  • The winner will increase his first win 100% (Parley the first $25.00 win to $50.00).
  • After each win complimenting the losing partner with $25.00 chip the winner increases his bet by approx 30-50%.

#12
Mixed / V'Armenti Stepladder - Huge Profits
October 24, 2013, 04:33:07 AM
A note on Martingale betting. I've dealt the game of Baccarat for just over 3 years, I have yet to see a successful Martingale player win in a long term.

I do see many Baccarat shoes that will change shortly after 3 in a row or 6 in a row. If you prolong your Martingale starting at Opposite bet on the 4th, I am 75% Positive you will show profit approx 9 times on average out of every 70 hand shoe.

A good alternative you may want to incorporate is a "V'Armenti Stepladder style of play" that works well with Baccarat.

Progress every win up from 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 and regress down just 1 step after every loss

This can be modified and played 3 different ways:

       
  • Stepladder Chasing Banker Only.  (PPPBPPBBPPPPPPBB increasing every win by 25 and every loss One-Step-Back. -P=25 -P=25 -P=25 +B=50 -P=25 -P=25 +B=50 +B=75 -P=50 -P=25 -P=25 -P=25 -P=25 -P=25 +B=50 +B=75)
  • Stepladder Chasing Player Only.  (PPPBPPBBPPPPPPBB increasing every win by 25 and every loss One-Step-Back. P=25 +P=50 +P=75 -B=50 +P=75 +P=100 -B=75 -B=50 +P=75 +P=100 +P=125 +P=150 +P=200 +P=250 -B=200 -B=150)
  • Stepladder following bet on the winner. (PPPBPPBBPPPPPPBB increasing every win by 25 and every loss One-Step-Back. P=25 +P=50 +P=75 +B=50 +P=25 +P=50 +B=25 +B=50 +P=25 +P=50 +P=75 +P=100 +P=125 +P=150 +B=125 +B=150)
I see only a hand full try this and many are successful.
#13
Quote from: Pockets on October 23, 2013, 03:57:56 PM
Instead of playing both sides, how different is it from a positive progression on a series to form with a progression of 1,2,1,2,3,4,5,7,3,5,7 units. Atleast you will not lose all the commission you are giving for the bank.

I don't see any advantage of playing with a partner here, unless someone can correct me.

You observe one hand. It is player, start betting on player with a progression of 1,2,1,2,3,4,5,7,3,5,7 units until you lose.
If you see bank, start betting on bank with a progression of 1,2,1,2,3,4,5,7,3,5,7 units until you lose.
When you lose, switch sides.

It is essentially a positive progression on FTL. Am I making sense?
I will stand corrected if my understanding and reading of this is wrong.

I am doing the maths, and am seeing that am saving on the commission.

If you play this way you will lose out on many runs resulting in normal play. you will lose your bank roll.
#14
Updated very first post with more info on methods.
#15
Updated very first post. Enjoy the video.