Thanks for those links.

I have read them , again. I have had Nick code me a couple of excel sheets to assist me with your ideas in the past , maybe I am just not clever enough,maybe just simply not " getting " it but I couldn't make it pay. It's not as if I havn't put the hours into this.

Where do I go from here ?

705 posts is going to take some reading and it won't be my first time to read all your posts, digesting it all correctly and using it is another matter. Any direction would be much appreciated. Where do we start ?

Quote from: XXVV on October 05, 2015, 05:00:19 AM
This will be the last note I will write on this absolutely boring thread you have established. No one is interested. ( There obviously is )  There are hardly any readers. The 600 or so visits are probably me, and a handful of others accessing your latest insight and attempts to question and quite blatantly, as with Green Gay, attempt to discredit me.

There is so much you do not know. ( yes that does intrigue me, what about some basic details as originally requested , I would be the first to endorse them if they have merit and will end all this )

Why don't you write or contribute something that is actually useful and current to this forum membership. What can you offer that is constructive and can be applied to help someone else make money. ( When I have something concrete on roulette I will )

I have formally complained to Vic who of course is absolutely fair. I have done nothing in breach of forum rules or etiquette much as I would like to tell you exactly what I think but that would do no good for anybody. ( Yes I have also written to him )

If you noted my writings in the past years you would understand I have repeatedly  cautioned against any progression in roulette betting and my own professional private bet is flat staking. You know so very little yet post this rubbish. ( I have proven that I have vast experience of the financial markets,I know a hell of a lot more than you do , you are just a bitter person and your postings reflect that )

I do not encourage others to be irresponsible and in fact constantly cite examples of my good play but also my mistakes with very clear examples for study. Several times I have told the story of how my greatest mentor in roulette lost a fortune in progression play in LV and London. Fortunately he was an extremely wealthy businessman and could manage the loss but it crushed him.

I also write frequently on roulette case studies and if I am such a poor writer ( as you claim) and of no interest to others why does my current roulette thread have over 6600 visits.

Despite my attempts to be amicable and conciliatory with good humour you now re-commence your evidently grudge campaign attempting to find fault. Of course looking for such you will attract such.

All my future notes on this matter, if mentioned at all, will be on my Blog.

Quote from: XXVV on October 04, 2015, 09:39:07 PM
Interesting.

KLW you have spent a lot of time in trying to dig up something that is wrong or unethical.  ( It didn't take long at all , it's all on Google )

Your motivation.  If it is to protect the quality and integrity of this Forum then good work, and I respect that principle. ( Thanks )

I am well aware of the earlier publicity regarding wealth vault and the early problems they had. That was part of my due diligence conducted several years ago before I decided to join with them on a toe in the water approach. You may be amused but I suspect not that with some irony in my own fraud research with regard to CEH and the 'Swiss Scammers' and their blatant use of the Brighton branch of HSBC, I had come across 'Wealth Vault' as one of the websites that indirectly the scammers had contact with, as well as a couple of other links such as web host and some financial blogs that were US and Canadian based. In fact I joined a Canadian property group that was formed by a retired policeman in Canada as they had a much more likely link to CEH et al.

Recall the Swiss scam must have taken in several million USD and I understand German roulette enthusiasts were particularly hard hit after I researched the traffic and origins on the original website used for the scam ( while it was still in operation).

My research indicated at that time ( over 3 years ago) that the scammers distributed their funds in various financial outlets and thus had used the Wealth Vault as a source of information at one time in order to find outlets for investment, just as all other customers do.

HSBC is well known to have acted as a no questions asked bank for use by drug cartels as reported by Max Keiser on RT.com and it astonishes me how brazen were these acts and of course they were fined accordingly.

The two founders of Wealth Vault over the years have vastly improved their website and quality of information content.

Quite openly and directly Brad W. has commented on past bad publicity and in my opinion he and his team have moved on and very professionally have upgraded their information source to M4 and in the past 6 months have updated and improved their website.

I am grateful to their open and refreshingly down to earth communications and through them I have found extremely valuable information to assist my own investment work. That is my opinion and because of the good will I have become a Life Member of their group M4 which entitles me access to all their information, experience, links and discounts.

Unless you have access to the full website you are in no position to comment as to the merit or otherwise of what is presented. ( Correct , but I've seen enough just by reading the run of the mill front end presentation of " free reports etc " and " all this for $37 !!! )

My own time is very valuable and at this stage of the year I am extremely busy so do not have time to deal with this issue you have raised but suffice to say I will advise Vic of my concern for your action and direction which in my view is misguided and unfortunately personal. ( It's not personal,just trying to warn readers against a web site that is being run by people that have fraud and scam allegations made against them and is being constantly touted and promoted by you in almost every other post you make and that you as a poster wanted $1000 for an introduction for information leading to a fantastic alternative investment vehicle and when challenged by me for some basic information on this alternative investment vehicle you then proceeded as a moderator to delete my posts , edit yours constantly to backtrack and become elusive , lock the thread and finally delete it to erase my challenges to you and your solicitation of the $1000. Readers can make their own mind up from this paragraph, everything I have written is the truth as it has unfolded,not your twisted versions )

I will advise Brad of your post in as much as you have named him and see what unfolds. ( Go ahead )

When people do good work as Brad and his team do, it is most unfair that they are criticised and reference is made to silly past internet publicity where there will always be entities that have no good to say. Fair enough if facts are accurate but I believe the material that criticised WV was inaccurate.

Certainly in the present I have heard no critical comment about M4 and I personally rate their service and level of communication very highly. I have no commercial vested interest or affiliate relationship with M4. ( This we will never know )

Regarding my own work, well  as earlier stated the steps I have taken this year, the connections made, and the plans ahead are the most exciting yet in an already wonderful life.

Perhaps you would like to comment on that.

Hello all -- I reproduce a post below from XXVV's thread the " Power of Roulette "



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Thanks Tomla.

I will try to provide a few little worthwhile bits of information that catch my eye and which may add to the Forum Members' experience and knowledge.

End of week close on DJI was lukewarm and recall August is always a time of holiday and lower volumes in Europe and USA. But there were again good interviews on CNBC, with in a few cases aggressive or even downright rude (not to a New Yorker) questions. The oil price and oil stocks bounced up a little reflecting oversold conditions and opportunities.

I have a Facebook colleague Ronnie Moas who really is the bete noir of CNBC and other so called expert  media business channels such as CNN. He cuts through it all like a hot knife through butter and actually blacklists stocks like Apple, Amazon and Starbucks for their appalling treatment of staff and exploitation of offshore labour in some situations with their massive cash reserves, fat cat principals and minimum staff wages and conditions, or worse for Amazon. I personally boycott all these products as with several others Ronnie mentions.

Ronnie Moas with his winning ( top #1) research company StandPoint Research **and portfolio strategy has a manner being interviewed by the amateurs with a face intense and sometimes angry, and a black cloud over his head; thunder and lightning bolts flashing and crashing.

Look him up.     ** the SR website is fascinating with many philanthropic specific applications

Also here is a thought for you. Research my friends M4insider.com or M4research.com.

If you want to join ( it is inexpensive and can be a monthly sub)) through the website you will be able to access from several pathways -  plans, programs, methods that can suit your personal risk exposure choice with a clear statement of costs, anticipated returns, and reviews. I am a platinum level member and through M4 have found highly valued further treasure.

They have a wealth chest of investment and research constantly being reviewed and added. The latest today is a managed account futures program access and all contact details. The team at M4 are genuine, fresh and very helpful. Their site used to be called the Wealth Vault.

This is one of my two private recent recommendations . The other one remains confidential.

One quality from this weeks Dow Jones trading has been 'volatility' to which the Traders assign a value index. Even today in a narrow trading range the volatility was still expressed and I am advised this factor quotient has been at a level not seen since 1987 with the crash. Make of this what you will but I would sincerely caution 'buy and hold' approach because there will be an enormous crash soon. Maybe its the HFT, and Machine v Machine.  However I know it. So take care and do your research. As with roulette, if unsure do nothing and wait for the proven signals.
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Now please read the posts in this link,especially the ones where " scam " , " fraud " , " liar " , " cyber scammers " and " The FED " are mentioned. I promise it won't take long.

http://www.realscam.com/f16/message-ponzi-pimp-brad-weiman-scammer-1086/

Interesting right ?

Now here is he same guy that owned The Wealth Vault admitting he's the co-founder of M4Research.

His name is  Wajnman by the way.

http://www.myfxbook.com/members/m4research

Now you will see a graph showing excellent results and

at face value would interest anybody BUT to explain

how he is trading to get those results goes like this.

He is using a grid ea , EA is an expert advisor or to

you roulette guys a bot. A very cheap and basic level

entry bot written in MQSL for the Meta Trader a

beginner level trading platform. MQSL is a scripting

language only and is notoriously unstable and can be

manipulated by the broker causing you potentially huge

losses unless you pick the right broker or the right

programmer.

Grid EA's work similar to a Martingale in roulette.The

market goes up and the bot places orders to short the

market at different price levels as it rises at

INCREASING stake sizes , so when it does turn, a

profit can be made and the market often ranges and so

lots of little profits, BUT what happens when the

market keeps rising ? Yes you guessed it, massive

losses and account wipe out and losses on a highly

leveraged account could mean bankruptcy !!! This is

what XXVV is constantly pushing to you forum guys in

his many posts. M4Insider and M4Research is littered

in all his posts along with others which I have yet to

investigate due to time restrictions.

Another thunderous post XXVV ?

So what exactly is your interest and connection to M4

/ The Vault XXVV ?

There seem to be numerous posts about you wanting to "

help " forum members which involves introduction

through yourself, at least 1 was for money. Why don't

you name them so that we can have a look at those as

well ?

Hello.

You wrote :-

"  Why is there a problem in editing or improving a post? "

Really ! Maybe because a change of a word , sentence
, deletion of a part of the post or whole post maybe renders the reply inappropriate or out of context to the original posting or as in your case changes the meaning totally from the original.

I prefer 10 words to 100 words and so do others going by the amount of times the word " waffle " has been expressed but each to his own.

Why on earth would I want to comment/review on the markets. These are done by the theory boys and girls,they usually can't trade so fall back onto teaching and market commentary, if they were any good they would be trading and these are the people you subscribe to.I am not a fundamental trader, I care not about market news other than the time it is released.

Same with the Dong,I have no opinion on it, I don't follow it and don't or never have traded it,it is an illiquid market , one for the locals and crazy ride junkies. The spread is ridiculous and it represents a fraction of 1 percent of the forex market,why trade it when there are much better pairs to trade.

You are right when you say that pattern recognition plays a part , but it is not " all about pattern recognition " , did you know that only 1 third of head and shoulder patterns come to a successful conclusion,it is more than just patterns.

As regards giving " help " I was too quick off the mark with that,I am busy planning a long haul holiday and that takes priority at the moment , it will have to wait.

Just briefly gone through the marketing hype for M4 insider,please don't tell me that this is your secret investment link you wanted to sell ? Nine months the example fund has been going , no wonder you didn't want me to know about it and you paid $67 for that stuff ?

Hello.

Well I was going to leave it but you don't seem to want to do this yourself. I take it I am one of the " bunnies " that you refer to in your last post ? I notice your post ( #10 ) has been edited , considering you have made 1104 posts you don't seem to be very good at it,most of your posts get edited , a tip , type to notepad then copy and paste it after scrutinising it , unless of course you have rage blindness then nothing will help. I get mine right first time every time doing it this way with a cool clear head, none of my posts have been edited,this can be confirmed.

I don't have time unfortunately for any more however your willingness to " help " others has given me idea. So will do when I have more time.

Exciting times lay ahead.

" However I wondered at your incomprehension of the generic term which is used in the NY managed trading account terminology which is 'multi directional trading'. "

Again you make a defamatory remark ( above ) !

From Google ---- Defamatory -- (of remarks, writing, etc.) damaging the good reputation of someone; slanderous or libellous.

I have provided to you previously indicitive evidence of my trading experience, I know just about every trading term there is to know from my 20 years of experience and for the last time , multi directional trading doesn't exist. You buy or sell. That's it ! Your attempt at describing markets going up , down or choppy is just that , describing types of markets, it is not multi directional trading. Do you not get this ! I have traded all asset classes in my 20 years not just Forex and they all require the same method of entry, a buy or a sell. There is no other type. Your scrambled attempt at backtracking to explain this is pathetic.

You keep using buy and hold mantra statement as some type of weapon to bolster your investment vehicle , buy and hold rapidly declined after the tech. bubble burst in early 2000 , day trading and short term swing trading has been the norm since then, you are only 15 years out of date using that angle as a plus for your scheme. You really are out of your depth here XXVV , no wonder you don't want
to continue these threads.

Your behaviour in this has been disgraceful. On being repeatedly challenged by me, you deleted threads , locked threads, deleted my posts ( and others ) and edited your own posts countless times in order to backtrack, make defamatory comments against me, belittle me and scramble to improve your own meanings/positions. That is not the behaviour of someone with nothing to hide.

Now that I have at least some posting history on this matter I am done, especially with you XXVV.

At least my challenges to XXVV may have saved some members here $1000, that must count for something in all of this.

" Again I will note here the arguments 'ad hominem'. Why this personal attack?
This matter must be resolved and I will seek Moderation and Administration advice. "


Again, this is not a personal attack just defensive postings against your defamatory remarks and ensuring the true version remains in print,because as usual you modified posts to suit your own end and deleted mine.This is why I started this thread out of your moderation reach. I too will be contacting Victor regarding your defamatory remarks and your attempts to belittle me.

Quote from: XXVV on September 20, 2015, 08:00:52 PM
Oh for heaven's sake what is wrong with you people? Can you not read? How many times do I have to state....

Once forum members contacted me and they explained and demonstrated their genuine interest, no fee was required!

How many times do I have to state this. No payment was made. This was a 'filter' to prevent time wasters.

Your comments which disregard my repeated and detailed explanations of a complex subject are just coming across as  trouble making and petty. My intention in all of my work is to assist others genuinely and on lots of levels. Do you not get this?

No I don't actually because that's not how it unfolded. You wanted $1000 for contact details for your special investment. I challenged this a number of times,it went down to a reduced price, then free to trusted forum members , then free to all. It's not trouble making it's ensuring the true version stays in print , not your back tracking , re-edited numerous times version which you then deleted the whole thread. Very slippery !

I have to continue this thread here as XXVV has made many accusations against me and despite his offer of a right to reply thread in " What motivates XXVV " he again deletes my posts and locks the thread so that all the readers only see his version of events. Totally undemocratic and dictorial. What is it you have to hide XXVV ?

I will reproduce below the exact post he deleted on his " What motivates XXVV " thread below:-



" Hello.

I would be more than happy to move on once a few things are cleared up.


I am not negative towards your efforts on producing a market report just your effort to solicit funds in the manner that you did.

Re. multi directional trading , here is my original reply before you conveniently deleted it :-

" What on earth is this !!! There is no such thing. You either go long a currency or short it,traders have done that for years. What other direction is there to trade !!! "


So stop trying to belittle me for exposing your amateur attempt at glorified marketing. So again you are twisting things and trying to mislead the readers as to my trading knowledge. Your last ( re-edited ) attempt at trying to explain multi directional trading was laughable, plus you talk about me not making defamatory statements yet this is exactly what you have done when you wrote above :-

"  you had no comprehension of the term 'multi directional trading "

You expose yourself XXVV more and more for the person that you are with each and every post you make.

I am not being defensive at all just clearing up a few things. I do not wish to change my descriptions of your writings as " twisting things " and " misleading readers " as you have proved that yet again in your last post to me.

So, now that I have corrected what I needed to , I am now prepared to move on as you seem to be very keen to do this.

So unless you have more to say on the matter it's goodbye. "



This is the EXACT post , not an edited or re-edited version that XXVV seems to constantly do. I have proved several times that you do indeed twist things and mislead readers,your closing post on the afore mentioned thread another such example :-

" who do not listen or comprehend material that is out of their sphere of experience "
"  although a self described market trader you had no comprehension of the term 'multi directional trading' " ( from your first reply in the thread )

I had already provided indicative information as to my considerable trading experience, these are DEFAMATORY statements.



" KLW just does not get it. I made no charge for the direct links and introduction to/from my private investment colleagues. " 

The whole point is YOU TRIED TO CHARGE $1000 originally and only bactracked several times to free after being challenged repeatedly by myself. Of course you again conveniently deleted these posts as well as repeatedly editing yours to improve your version !!!


" Instead I have received  a stream of abuse and defamatory comments from GG and KLW which astonishes me."

Please show me one abusive remark or defamatory comment I have made about you ? Every comment I have made I can back up with evidence that it is true. I have evidence of your editing and re-editing and re re-editing of your posts, I have copies of my deleted posts especially where I provide indicative information as to my trading experience and still you belittle my trading knowledge with defamatory statements.

You can take any  " firm action " you want, I have done nothing wrong except maybe expose your , let's say your character flaws to be polite and save some readers here $1000.

There are plenty of successful investment vehicles available on the web and they don't want a $1000 introductory fee. Just Google "  list of top 10 fund managers " or similar , there is plenty of information available quite quickly , none of this cloak and dagger introduction needed ( yes you deleted that post as well,the one where I asked for past performance details etc. )

So stop making defamatory remarks about me , it is clear from my postings at Trade2win that I have considerable trading experience.

That others may think negatively of you is down to you and the way you have conducted yourself on public forums. We are all not stupid.

Hi Kimo Li --- Many thanks for an introduction to some of your work. May I ask why you are not posting any more ? Personally I have been studying your work for the last 2 weeks and am finding some very interesting results. Would be nice to know that you would be around should the need arise.

Cheers,

klw.

Thank you once again horus.

Hi horus - Just did another DB session of 64 spins and had a losing steak of 13 losses followed by 1 win then another 7 losses , worst I've come across so far but it was always going to happen at some stage. I think you're right about the 5/6 losses , most losing streaks are done by about the 7th loss we just need to be prepared for those types of runs. As always bank roll management is the key.

Cheers.

Excellent stuff as usual horus and thank you very much for your hard work and sharing it with us. I love reading your posts and my one of my favourite posters.

Just done my own Dublin Bet test and got + 252 points after 52 spins. Drawdowns were similar to yours 40 - 60 points and upside a lot more.

I have very limited time at the moment but will test as and when I can.

Cheers.