In a nutshell what are you betting? For or against or what? I'll try to give a better look when I get time.

Did you have a 20 times total loss as your bankroll?

PB a loss is 7 units so you should have a 140 (units being played) BR to play the units you were playin. A pile of losses in a row can get you so you need 20 times a loss to keep the head straight and not chase a loss

Being only fairly technically minded compared against Victor, but I can see decent work there....intelligent and thoughtful programming

Quote from: Ralph on November 24, 2012, 02:37:01 PM
Pb how it works or not, I do not want to take up here, but I use to win that small faster. Using a bet real and not wait for 60 spins.
I can not image how it will make any profit, may be profit but according to what I have seen it takes very long time. Even if it gives a plus how much?  My personal view is it will not working, but I have not tested it deep at all I have not even  done any test. I think waiting, and waiting for a "trigger" is good in that sense you do not risk any at most of the spins.  I test some of this kind of  methods, and they may work or not.  If you got the numbers which suit it, that's depend of if you are lucky to get it. I do not think there are any sure ways, you got to have some luck. There are better or worse ways, so using a method  that's to do. How can any like to spend a month to get a few, is such method ever useful?

With a win loss ratio of 10:1 roughly...you grind out 2 and 3 units a week. The grind is the key, grind out 10 units a month playing safe and when those units are worth £20 each then you don't have to worry about slow play.

Quote from: Chauncy47 on November 24, 2012, 02:03:31 PM
JL,  here is a quick snapshot of October/November results:   
280 Games Played.
Lost 11 total games and 9 were due to zero(s). Lost 1 on  H/L and 1 of E/O.  I have had a good run over the past 60 days with PB.  So the zero's usually get to me before anything esle. *LOL*  I never play when the last pattern is HHH, LLL, OOO oe EEE and I never play R/B.  Had I played R/B, I certainly would have more losses.   The  amount of my opening bet is also based on the number of spins it took to get to the trigger.  For example, if the last pattern to form falls between 40 and 50 spins, my opening bet is much more aggressive, which is not often.   If I breach the 80 spin count, I start over.  Also, if I get a pattern that has formed 3 times in under 45 spins (doesn't happen often for me)  I will bet against it forming a 4th time.  Those are just a few observations that have worked for me that I can share.  I will pull the results for the past 6 months so you can a better picture of the stats.  If you stay in the "moment" or in the "now" so-to-speak, when you are playing this game and really observe everything that is going on and not just focus in on the one trigger you are waiting to occur, the game offers a lot of opportuity to challenge randomness on many different levels, but you just have to be in the moment, open your mind and be aware of everything going on!

we have an experiment going on here and in the 4 unit bet we also cover green zero....do you not cover it?

Quote from: Chauncy47 on November 24, 2012, 12:33:19 PM
Hi JL ... finally made it!  Just finished with Thanksgiving and the hunting season is all done here....so now it's just the last two Holiday's and Roulette   As you know, I really enjoy all the methods and really enjoy PB.  I curently play PB, Code 4, P4 and Hybrid D&C, D&C and a few tweaked versions to better fit the wonderful world of 0/00.  I have played 1006 live games of PB and like you, I have never had all 3 EC lose and seldom encounter a double loss.  It makes the method is very powerful and I don't doubt fir a second that Pilot accomplished everything he posted.   Over this past year I have only seen a pattern repeat itself and actually breach the 8 mark only 7 times and 5 of those were on R/B.  As you know, I have tweaked Code 4 to play to the strength of this data.  Of course this is all live play for me.  I stumbled across another local casino that has a automaic live wheel which spins every 30 seconds and that has helped me play PB more frequently so I am thanksful on this Thanksgiving Day for that great find    Look forward to being a part of this great forum and all the great players that contribute and sharing my observations!

Hello and welcome Mr C 

Quote from: shogun on November 23, 2012, 07:07:54 PM
RESULTS UPDATE FOR PATTERN BREAKER 23/11/12

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 102

TOTAL GAMES WON 91

TOTAL GAMES LOST 11

STRIKERATE 9.27/1

DOUBLE LOSSES ZERO

TREBLE LOSSES ZERO

LONGEST WINNING STREAK 37

Hi Guys,

Another update. I have stopped playng Red/Black as i have had 6 losses and only 5 to the other 2 EC's. My strike rate would have been better not playing Red/Black.
Still very happy.

Shogun.

Quote4. Tracking all 3 methods but I'll only be playing HIGH/LOW and EVEN/ODD - I won't play RED/BLACK.

4th rule in Speramus and you're doing it in real life...tut tut lol. Honestly red black DO give out worse losses than the other 2 methods. Bizarre but true for me anyway.

Quote from: JohnLegend on November 23, 2012, 05:31:41 AM
That's right B.C, its losing both in the same session.

ok thanks

btw that's an early start for you posting that lol

Can you both clarify a double loss. To me if I@m using ophis's tracker a double loss would be 1 session playing but losing H/L AND O/E in the same session. Or do you mean any 2 losses even if they are both H/L for example...in the 1 session?

Just a side note. I've "upgraded" from the older version to this one and no errors bugs thus far for me.

I don't understand baccarat so I don't know about that. Is it a good game?

Wouldn't you have to sit playing the game for a long time to work out imbalances? In my experience the longer you sit at a table the more chance of random biting your behind with a triple spin or something.

Interesting concept though and worth a read further if you put up more info

Quote from: VLS on November 08, 2012, 02:26:47 PM
This is a most-interesting topic to elaborate on.

There are plenty of mixed inter-session MM rules; yet one set I particularly like being:

Winning session procedure:

33% - Added to attack session's bank (increase base unit for next session)
33% - Add units to the last session bankroll of the lifetime reserve.
34% - Player profit.

Losing session procedure:

Attack bankroll returns to base unit.

---

Money management goal:

Compounding profits on concatenated winning sessions.

Safeguarding the lifetime bankroll on concatenated losing sessions.

Interesting

can you elaborate more on the bit underlined?

Quote from: bcboilermaker on November 22, 2012, 10:49:18 AM



I think that is how will I play from now on. my initial plan to make profit on the second round bet is not working out, because the first round is strong strike rate, I rarely get second round to bet.

It all adds up though...every little helps as they say. That's a great position to be in, multiple small money wins with the odd ten fold win thrown in, sounds good to me 

Also take a side thought at the small bets adding up...

1 win with a small bet might equal 1% of a total loss of the huge 2nd bet....you get 100 smaller bets and you have covered the loss with the 2nd huge bet...given how frequently you lose on a second bet then that's a great safety net.

Can I ask what sort of units you are betting and what your bankroll is? If you'd rather not say I'll understand 

You're a gentleman...much appreciated Ophis