Shoe manipulation!!

Tried to post a YouTube video but was unable to.

https://youtu.be/APuWdib1hEU

I've never made any reference to roulette.

Wewin2222

This is inside information so take it for what it's worth.

I haven't been here for a while because I don't like arguing with people,  however I think the general public or gambler if you will needs to know this information.

1)  It's common knowledge at this point that casinos use the shuffle master to cheat people out of their money.
2)  They used to use the shuffle master to beat the advantage player who liked to use a system.
3)  They don't care if you use a system now because they have combined the shuffle master with an electronic shoe that pushes the cards out.
4)  All the casino cares about now is  taking the most money for every hand that is delt. They accomplish this by using the shuffle master to position the cards and using the electronic shoe push the cards out to the side that is favorable for the casino to make the most amount of money on that particular hand.
5) Example: First 2 cards in the electronic shoe is a 8 and 9, the next 2 cards are face cards. If the most money is bet on the Player side they will receive the 9 allowing that side to win.  In other words the electronic shoe is capable of dealing the card underneath to allow the casino to have an unbeatable advantage.

What the electronic shoe and the shuffle master combined the casino is able to decide the outcome of every single hand. This Technology cannot be beat and it  takes cheating to a whole new level.

Wewin2222

Alrelax,

I appreciate the feedback and true wisdom that you have. We could use more people like you in the world!!

Wewin2222

80R9,

They will focus on getting the best player off the table, because not everyone has the same experience or ability. If someone is winning, most players will follow. Also if you are winning they will use facial recognition to figure out who you are especially if you are wagering big money. Why risk their license, who is going to challenge the casino if you caught them cheating, it is your word against there's. They will do what every it takes to beat you, I could post lots of examples but I won't waste my breath on casino cheating at this time. Do they cheat all the time, NO! Do they  Occasionally Cheat, you bet your A*SS they do!!

Buy in for 25,000 and walk away with 125,000 and they next time you come back buy in for 125,000 and watch what happens.

Wewin2222

I know one thing for certain Alrelax, you have a lot to say and you don't mind sharing your thought process on most subjects. I can respect that because it's not hard for me to figure out those who have truely lived the life and those who pretend. I know you don't always agree with me and vice versa but I know you're a smart guy and I do enjoy reading your posts, although I don't always respond. Let me make and sandwich and get a cup of coffee and then I'm all ears.

Wewin2222

Good Day Everyone,

Why?

What is your goal when you go to a Casino and what is the Casinos goal? Baccarat in theory is a 50/50 game but not really due to the 3rd card draw. If you don't understand the game or play a strategy, I would say for that person it's absolutely a 50/50 game. Let's talk about some thought processes in the game of Baccarat.

1) You make a decision before you walk into the casino that come hell or high water you're going to bet the chop. You walk in and sure enough you see the shoe starting to chop and you win, win, win, life is good. You do the same thing the next shoe and you win, win, win.

2) The 3rd shoe rolls around and the shoe will not chop and it only has a total of 8 singles in the entire shoe. Why?

3) The casino knows that you like betting the chop and they know that in order to beat you or take your money they will have to produce a shoe with little to no chop.

4) I would suggest to you that based on your style of play, or your system of play, once they figure you out they will accomplish their goal and that is to separate you from your money.

5) I can't help but smile when I hear a player tell me that I wager Bank only, Player only, Run ect. This is most  humorous to me. I know that those kind of players are nothing more than blood bait which will soon be  devoured in the belly of a shark.

Why do you think the casino ask you for your card? Once they get your card, they can pull up your entire history from every casino you have played at. Casino's really do interact with each other and they know at a moments notice what it takes to beat you or what kind of player you are.

If you are a true player, you can test this by going into a casino you've never played at, give them your identification, buy in for 100.00, play one shoe and ask them for a room comp, trust me they will give you anything you ask for.

They Casino has unlimited resources and seemly has even the police and courts in their hip pocket. You can win several hundred thousand dollars and all they have to do is accuse you of cheating and refuse to pay you. It goes to court and the Judge sides with the Casino. Why?

I know I am rambling on today but I'm trying to share with you what I have seen and experienced in and outside the casino.

You are looking at a Billion Dollar Industry which is soon to be a Trillion Dollar Industry.

Players, Risk Takers, Gamblers, for the most part are to fu**cking stupid to realize that the casino what's nothing more than to rip your heart and send you, your family ect ect on a spiral to disaster.

Some players actually think the casino is there friend and they truly are if you consistently give them your money.

Kick their teeth in a few times and see how much they like you, I've had them shut the game down on me on more than one occasion, they didn't ask me to leave but they could have. I honestly think I am their bench mark, if they can beat me, life is good and they are doing their job, that statement will rub some people they wrong way because it is very boastful but I really don't give a dam because I know me.

I have digressed a lot but why? Why do you loose?

The answer is lack of knowledge, experience, ect. ect. Sometimes it's just being plan ffff stupid. I said it and if the shoe fits wear it.

Players are afraid to share any secreats they might have because who can you trust? That one friend you have will go running off at the mouth the first time you tell him how or why you won.

If Players could only be as loyal as Casinos then you could really see a shift in power as it pertains to the gambling industry.

Many times I feel sorry for people and I truly want to help them until they show their true colors and I realize they deserve every hardship that comes their way, yes some people are just that sorry and can't be helped.

People that I like are people who for one. Actually has a Brain, they are not easily moved by the  status quo and truely have a desire and work ethic to be great. Also there actions always speak louder than their words.

Those people are hard to find!!

Wewin2222

brokerny, you are absolutely right I did come off a little weird! However sometimes when I'm feeling good about myself and maybe had a little to much to drink it's not such a great idea to be posting messages. I will try to do better in the future.

Wewin2222

brokerny, I never said one time that I could predict the exact card or cards coming out of the shoe. You have tried to put those words in my mouth. People do this kind of stuff all the time when they want to discredit someone. You based that off me telling the table that after 8 Bankers the next hand would be a Natural 9 Player. I said based on the cards that had come out and through study that combination of cards the Player had won on a Natural 9 on every occasion. Did I know 100% for sure, NO! However based on my card study that is why I said what I did. I have already said to much and will not say anything more because of people always wanting to look at a gift horse in the mouth.

Wewin2222

It's not that I admire him or anyone that was in his organization. I think it's kind of funny that he did something to the casinos that they do to people everyday. I have seen the casinos cheat more times than I can count. If I am winning and let's say for example that I'm looking for certain order of cards to appear before I bet table max or any sizable bet. If I see the casino do certain things for example: I was kicking their behind when they brought a clear container with cards in it, they gently took the cards out of the container and placed them inside the shuffler. However there was one problem with this, the shuffle machine wasn't making any noise, wow! I was sitting at the end of the table and I was listening to the cards being shuffled all night. I guess they got tired of getting there teeth kicked in and was going to try and remedy there problem before the night was over. The shuffle machine not making any noise was music to my ears. I knew I would be playing truly rigged game. It's was obvious to me that all I had to do was wager opposite of my previous wagers! They paid dearly because it worked like a charm!! If looks could kill I would be a dead man today!

Wewin2222

There is an exception, however: a group known as the Tran Organization. Based out of San Diego, the group stole more than $7 million from 19 casinos across the country using techniques even Hollywood hadn't thought of.

It started simply enough. In 2002, a dealer at San Diego's Sycuan Casino was caught performing what is known as a false shuffle. The false shuffle is an old sleight-of-hand trick in which a dealer appears to wash and shuffle a deck of cards. In reality, the dealer actually protects a large portion of the cards and keeps them in the order in which they were dealt. That way, players at the table who were watching and tracking the order the cards came out will know exactly how to bet when that deck, or slug, of cards comes back into play.

"No one is the wiser if you don't know what you're looking for," Pete Casey, special agent for the FBI in San Diego, told "20/20" co-anchor Chris Cuomo.

According to Casey, the lead agent on the case, the dealer was caught helping several people win a few hundred dollars at the table. She was fired, and the situation was brought to the FBI's attention and chalked up as an isolated incident. What Casey didn't realize at the time was that the dealer was doing more than just stealing, she was gathering intelligence.


"She was researching it, definitely. Figuring out what [were] the best angles to hold her hands, reviewing the different protocols within her own casino," Casey said.

According to Casey, the woman was actually working for an unlikely criminal mastermind -- Phuong "Pai Gow John" Truong.

Truong, a former casino employee, was known as little more than an avid gambler and drifter in the local Vietnamese community. But Truong was ready to go big time. According to Casey, Truong devised a plan: recruit dealers from various casinos willing to learn how to conduct and perform a false shuffle during a card game, and to cash in after that.

After the dealer was fired from Sycuan, Truong took what the group learned and moved with his wife, Van Tran, and about 15 members of her family north to the Cache Creek Casino outside Sacramento, Calif.

With a handful of dealers willing to go in on it with them, Truong had teams rotating on mini-baccarat tables day and night at Cache Creek. The game suited their method because in mini-baccarat a player is allowed to write down what cards have been dealt. Typically, it makes no difference when the cards are properly shuffled, but on a false shuffle the player has it all spelled out for them.

"They had it set up like a business, where they had a day shift, night shift and graveyard. They were pulling out $20,000-a-round of cheating," Casey said.

The crew stole $158,000 in the month of March 2003. That kind of money told the Tran Organization one thing.

"That means they were on it. They felt they knew exactly what they were doing, and they can never get caught," Casey said.

They spread out, sending teams to recruit dealers and scam casinos up the West Coast, into Canada and down through the Midwest.

"It's safe to say that if there's a casino in that state, they hit it," Casey said.

The Trans had two things going for them. They were able to conduct the scam in full view of the thousands of casino security cameras and, by the time a casino realized one of their tables had a huge loss, the crew would be gone.

"A lot of the casinos didn't realize what was happening to them in real time. They figured it out, maybe two, three weeks after they had left," said Casey.

By the time the crew arrived at Foxwoods Casino in Connecticut in 2005, its ranks had swelled to more than 40 people and it was averaging $50,000 every 10 minutes at the table.

It also had changed tactics. The group's members started cheating at blackjack, where the table limits are typically higher and the winnings bigger. In blackjack, however, a player isn't able to write down any of the cards, so the Trans went high-tech.

They used hidden microphones and a tracker -- a person watching the order the cards were being dealt -- would read the cards into the microphones while pretending to smoke a cigarette. On the other end of the line, someone would sit outside the casino with a specially designed computer program talking to the tracker, who was wearing a hidden ear piece. The computer program would read out when, and in what order, the cards would come back out in after the dealer had performed the false shuffle to the tracker.

The tracker would signal to the player at the table when the slug of cards was in play and use hand singles to let him know how to bet.

"Take a puff with one finger on, it says to make a bet. Take a puff with two fingers on the cigarette, that means to double down," Casey said.

Once again, the Trans looked to be unstoppable.

"They started pulling a lot more money off the tables in a shorter amount of time," Casey said.

While the FBI continued to play catch-up, the Tran scores started going through the roof, peaking at an incredible $868,000 at Resorts East in Chicago in October 2005.

But for all the slickness and expertise, the Tran gang, specifically its leader, Phuong Truong, would fall prey to a classic bad guy blunder: greed. Truong began shortchanging his dealers. Embittered, they happily became informants for the FBI. Eventually Truong and his top lieutenants were identified and put under surveillance.

"We got their travel records, their playing habits, all the currency transaction reports," Casey said.

On June 8, 2006, agents for the Mississippi Gaming Commission went undercover to meet with Truong. He thought they were dealers willing to work with him. In the undercover video of the meeting, Truong laid out his whole scheme.

"That was one of the best undercover videos I've ever seen," said Casey.

"I only need two guys to go in there with me and light up a cigarette and game over. That's it," Truong said in the video. "I can smoke my cigarette like this, then you already know where to bet, what to bet."

The final piece of evidence that federal investigators needed was capturing the entire scam on video. That happened weeks after Truong was filmed undercover when a tip came in that a portion of gang was headed back to the place where it all started, the Sycuan Casino. This time, the FBI and casino were ready.

With multiple cameras rolling, they watched as the group, led by one of the Tran Organization's most prolific trackers, Willy Tran, stole more than $20,000 in 20 minutes before he walked out.

With this treasure trove of video in hand, authorities finally moved in and Phuong Truong's house of cards collapsed.

By 2007, Truong and 46 of his confederates were indicted for racketeering, theft and money laundering. He pled guilty, was sentenced to 70 months in prison and had to forfeit and pay back millions to casinos and the government.

"They hit close to 19 casinos. They took in, what we could prove, around $7 million," Casey said.

It's ok, I will not get the 100 post and my secrets I will take to my grave. People lose because they are not willing to put the work in to win. I was playing Baccarat yesterday and it had gone 8 Banks in a row. I told the entire table the next hand would be a natural 9 Player. They would not listen because it was running and they lost big money. I was the only one who won. How did I know? I knew what the count was! Every casino has a card count and theywould cringe if they knew thought you knew that. How did I learn this, I took the time to document every card one by one that was delt and I spent time studying the cards, yes I have spent a lot of time studying!

Have you every considered how many ways you can make a 9 in Baccarat. I have and for example you can have a 9-0, 8-1, 7-2, 6-3, 5-4 which I will call the conventional way. You have unconventional ways which requires 3 cards. Have you studied this and figured what happens when these cards appear in a shoe. I have and I undressed the casino using my work ethic to know what they are doing. I will not share my secrets and I will continue to win while others continue to lose.

Wewin2222

If I get 100 people with 100 replies in the next 24 hours, I want a degree in Baccarat. I will share my system step by step. I will also teach you how I have learned to read the cards. I will never offer this again.

Wewin2222

Big WIN by Cleveland tonight! They got up on Detroit 3-0 and never looked back winning 3-2 in the end. Not sure about how many people wager on Baseball and I'm thinking about cooling my jets for awhile. If you had Cleveland tonight you made money!!

PREDICTIVE MEASURE has picked 5 winners in a row which is something I started charting this week. I think adding this to the system I am already using will be a game changer!!!

Wewin2222

I was study this game for a long time this morning, I couldn't make heads or tails of the game.  The answer just would not come to me no matter how hard I tried.  I finally went to bed and got some sleep and when I woke up it was crystal clear.  I have the Cleaveland Indians winning this game in a landslide victory on the road.  This is a game that you can wager on and not have to sweat it out.  Cleveland has the best Pitcher on the mound tonight who hasn't had a back to back loss all year and he is coming off a loss. Cleveland has got at least one win in 8 of 9 series games this year. They have lost the last two in this series match up and I expect them to stay on track and get there one series win.

System Pick: Cleveland Indians laying 155.00 wins 100.00.

PREDICITIVE MEASURE: CLEVELAND INDIANS!!!

Wewin2222