Quote from: Tomla on April 01, 2015, 02:56:05 PM
something I like about this thread but I still don't understand it! damn im stupid lol

LoL....I was meaning to put up the pictures from my Charts/book so that you guys could more easily figure out what's going on. I took the pics and they came out a bit fuzzy. I will do them again tonight. There are 37 double pages for each number of the Single Zero Wheel. I could adjust it for the 00 but luckily we don't have any of those here in the UK just yet.

I have worked with multiple streams for a few years and it's second nature to me and I suppose I then make the mistake of thinking you guys will easily understand what I am talking about. So I apologize for any confusion. There are a lot of things people write on this board about and honestly I don't have a clue about some of it. So you are not the only one Tomla.

It's variance what will kill you short term. We all know that. So you can look for variance across 3 or 4 streams and try and use it to your advantage. The only thing to realize is that the streams are independent of each other. So if you use them all seperately, I don't really think it's helping much. But like in the idea I am proposing above, you are using them in a joint effort and I think this can help.

cheers

Here are the first few numbers out from Table 2 Today.

It's ok when you get an early win like this on spin 7 for +24.

I was sitting at a roulette terminal the other day and in the Genting Casino I visit, they have these big electronic scoreboards hanging down where you can see what's going on. The two shoes I watched would have made a killing with the 'Pit Boss' Strategy. All 2's and 3's the whole way through the shoe.

In this game from Table 5 yesterday...you could get out at spin 17 with +6. I would play this idea in a type of mini-games format (similar to Ralph's idea) and keep resetting after reaching a profit or quit for the day. I liked Ralph's thinking, but I didn't like the idea of betting every spin where you could get some steep drawdowns. That's ok for online playing in pennies or 10c. But in live play you have to make it worth your while. So this trigger concept seems to block out a lot of the losing runs and then you are hopefully there to cash in on the cluster.

I think I have found the optimal way to play this trigger concept. However this turns the game into more of a grind and you probably need to get out when you reach any profit (which is no bad thing) otherwise you may find yourself sitting at the table for a long time.

What I am doing here is playing 3 streams and converting the numbers into Streets (123, 456 etc..)

I look for the most recent double of a street using the same trigger concept across all the 3 streams. It doesn't throw up as many bets this way as with the 9 number bet.

The example explains the rules and you could have got out of the game twice with a profit.

spin 35. +21 units.

or

spin 111. +12 units.

Also instead of stopping after two consecutive triggers, I decided to let this one run to three. Anybody could adjust that rule to suit themself. You could also incorporate some kind of MM playing this way as well. I was thinking of Ralph's idea where he just played single numbers and increased a unit on a win if he was not in profit. That idea seemed to work well for him and he was betting every spin. He was waiting for a small cluster of wins which would take him to a new high. With this idea, you are definately not betting every spin because you are waiting for a W before getting back into the game. The betting windows are very narrow.

I didn't particularly have any luck in the test sample which you can see below and yet it still provided an opportunity to profit twice. There will be other sessions where you get a lot of close repeats of a street (especially over 3 streams) and make some good profits.

This looks to be the best way to get this trigger concept to work IMO.

cheers

Blood Agel,

On the home page, click on the 'live casino' tab on the left hand side of the page at the top.

Then click on any of the boxes and the game should open up in a new screen. Maybe they have blocked it for certain countries to comply with the gaming laws.

cheers

Thanks klw,

That's what got me thinking about using a few streams and tracking for a stream which has suffered some losses like you describe and then look for a correction. Of course there is nothing to say that you might not get another 6/7 losses afer something like 6L 1W 7L 1W.

A lot of the sessions I tested started really well and the losing streaks were cushioned. Using a couple of streams means you wouldn't be waiting too long to find something like what you mentioned above. Then it would be a case of going with the flow and maybe stopping at the first double (T). I don't think it would be a good idea to go chasing this idea with any kind of negative progression. Mind you, that's just my personal preference. I would rather attack with a positive progression (if anything) when things were going well like in some of my tests where the wins were coming thick and fast. I will keep testing and let you know how it goes.

Thanks again.

Thanks very much klw for the feedback. This idea seems to work well whatever I try it on. Although I particularly like the 9 numbers version. It seems to be just the right balance. I will be testing this more myself for sure. It's something I wouldn't mind risking 5/6 losing bets on at the start just to see if it goes on one of those nice runs.

cheers

Here was a quick session just played at Dublinbet using just the 1st stream betting three £5 chips on the three streets to make up 9 numbers. (fun money unfortunately [smiley]aes/cry.png[/smiley])

0-300 in 26 spins is not bad!! Stopped at the double (T) on +225 on spin 31.

Here is what I kind of had in mind!

Stream 3 hits a drawdown of -45 (L,L,L,L,L) and then goes on a win streak to hit +63 (W,W,W,W). You could have had the 2nd, 3rd and 4th hits after seeing the first win for a profit of +81.

Of course it would need to be automated for online play unless you can get to one of those Novamatic Pinball Roulette Machines where you control the speed of your own game. (Found in most Grosvenor's)

cheers

How would I play it? I think running 3 streams like in some of my ideas above and then looking for a drawdown of between 50-75 units in any one stream and then looking for a correction may be one way to go.

I will try that idea with today's numbers from the Spielbank Wiesbaden Casino and see how it goes.

cheers

I thought maybe the 1-9, 10-18, 19-27, 28-36 results from table 2 yesterday were a fluke so I decided to try table 5 as well and see what happens. (Maybe these were a fluke as well, lol)

+126 in 55 spins. The double (T) kind of acts as a safety net I suppose.

Not a bad way to go for a (dare I say it) hit and run session.

Dozens/Columns here from Table 3.

Seems ok with this trigger concept!

I have noticed though in my testing (like early on here in the Columns) that you can get a chop going on between Win and (T)....something to look out for!

Now here is something simple enough that even Granny could play it. (no offence to grannies,lol)

The triggers are the same as explained above.

The difference is that this is geared up to just 4 sets of numbers instead of the six-lines.

1-9=1
10-18=2
19-27=3
28-36=4

This was Table 2 today at Spielbank Wiesbaden and it kicked some serious butt. (+171 in 58 spins is not bad)

N.B. = no bet when 2 consecutive triggers (T) come. Then it's just a case of waiting for a win before starting betting again.

cheers

Quote from: BlueHood on March 26, 2015, 05:56:22 PM
Horus backwards is suroh (sorrow)?

What's to be unhappy about? Were alive aren't we?

I ran this on a bit....

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You can see Stream 3 was unplayable just repeating triggers.

Stream 1 was chopping between Trigger and Win and Stream 2 may be just starting to warm up a bit.