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The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« on: March 02, 2014, 01:50:53 pm »
The American 00 wheel is fascinating having compared it to the European single 0 wheel.
 

 
 
 
What I particularly like about it is how 13 of the split bets are practically the opposite of each other on the wheel layout.
 
You have the following.....

0/00
1/2
5/6
7/8
11/12
13/14
17/18
19/20
23/24
25/26
29/30
31/32
35/36
 
Now something I have noticed over many years of play is how quite often you can get very distinct spikes showing hot numbers more or less directly opposite of each other.
 
So using the splits as shown above on the American 00 wheel may present opportunities to construct a bet where you can keep the outlay low.
 
Here is a 200 spin example I just created.....
 

 
200 spins / 18 = 11.11. So a split should have appeared on average 11 times.
 
So looking at the above picture, I am looking for any of my splits that have appeared over 11 times.
 
0/00 = 15 times.
11/12 = 16 times.
23/24 = 12 times.
25/26 = 13 times.
 
So 4 of the 13 splits have performed above expectation.
 
I will do some further research on this because it looks promising.
 
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Re: The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2014, 02:01:32 pm »
 
There is name for what you mention above " The Bi-modal effect " ...
Pierre Basieux write a lot about that ...
 
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Re: The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2014, 02:23:05 pm »
It's interesting what you say Wheelwatcher because another thing that I frequently noticed was how these spikes frequently migrated just a fraction from day to day.
 
So for example on the Monday.....
 

 
....and then go back on the Tuesday.
 

 
So the spikes have just slightly moved.
 
I don't know why this happens because I have not really studied it. But is it something to do with air pressure that changes or maybe along those lines which causes the migration? 
 
It is certainly interesting.  :thumbsup:
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2014, 02:41:48 pm »
 
Pierre Basieux would say that the optimal window would be three hits within four trails and attack twice.
The hits could be straight or bi-modal within four trails.
 
The Nine Roulette - wheel signature - by Pierre Basieux use this bi-modal effect you talking about.
He also implement and random phase where you could play when they don't hit.
 
Sorry to say so do i not understand the random phase that would be highly interesting.
Use both bias signature with random phase signature - the beast of two worlds.
 
This issue is that the translation of the original german file is not so good.
I have both English translated and the original German file that Pierre Basieux gave me.
 
If you want a copy i can email you ...
 
Forgot to mention ... one signature use 3x3 numbers or total 6 and other signature 4x4 or total 8 numbers
 
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Re: The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2014, 02:46:54 pm »
Thank you Wheelwatcher,
 
 It's ok, I have a copy of that. I will dig it out and have another look at it.
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Re: The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2014, 03:06:31 pm »
Just as a quick experiment, I will grab 18 spins at a time and see how things pan out.
 
First 18.
 

 
Now let's see how many times the 13 splits have appeared. The average of course should be 1.
 
0/00 = 3. (+2)
1/2 = 0. (-1)
5/6 = 1. (0)
7/8 = 1. (0)
11/12 = 2. (+1)
13/14 = 0. (-1)
17/18 = 2. (+1)
19/20 = 0. (-1)
23/24 = 2. (+1)
25/26 = 1. (0)
29/30 = 2. (+1)
31/32 = 0. (-1)
35/36 = 0. (-1)
 
There are 5 splits that are above expectation.
 
0/00. (+2)
11/12. (+1)
17/18. (+1)
23/24. (+1)
29/30. (+1)
 
 
 
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Re: The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2014, 03:17:04 pm »
Second 18.
 

 
0/00 = 3. (+1)
1/2 = 1. (-1)
5/6 = 1. (-1)
7/8 = 1. (-1)
11/12 = 4. (+2)
13/14 = 1. (-1)
17/18 = 3. (+1)
19/20 = 0. (-2)
23/24 = 2. (0)
25/26 = 1. (-1)
29/30 = 2. (0)
31/32 = 0. (-2)
35/36 = 2. (0)
 
Now there are 3 splits above expectation.
 
0/00. (+1)
11/12. (+2)
17/18. (+1)
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2014, 03:30:27 pm »
Third 18.
 

 
0/00 = 3. (0)
1/2 = 2. (-1)
5/6 = 1. (-2)
7/8 = 2. (-1)
11/12 = 4. (+1)
13/14 = 2. (-1)
17/18 = 4. (+1)
19/20 = 2. (-1)
23/24 = 2. (-1)
25/26 = 2. (-1)
29/30 = 6. (+3) a streaker!
31/32 = 1. (-2)
35/36 = 3. (0)
 
Now there are 3 splits above expectation.
 
11/12. (+1)
17/18. (+1)
29/30. (+3)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2014, 03:39:29 pm »
 
I will add some more to this topics ... soon

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Re: The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2014, 03:44:16 pm »
Fourth 18.
 

 
0/00 = 3. (-1)
1/2 = 5. (+1)
5/6 = 2. (-2)
7/8 = 3. (-1)
11/12 = 6. (+2)
13/14 = 2. (-2)
17/18 = 4. (0)
19/20 = 2. (-2)
23/24 = 4. (0)
25/26 = 2. (-2)
29/30 = 8. (+4)
31/32 = 1. (-3)
35/36 = 5. (+1)
 
4 splits above expectation.
 
1/2. (+1)
11/12. (+2)
29/30. (+2)
35/36. (+1)
 
So the 11/12 is a mainstay so far and the 29/30 was a bit of a late streaker.
 
I hope you get the general idea.  A lot of the splits will stay absent from the above expectation list.
Some will fizzle out like the 0/00. Some will coast along like the 11/12 and you will get some come from nowhere like the 29/30.
 
*You can also see how the 11/12 and 29/30 splits are next to each other on the wheel layout and starting to take shape as the dominant opposites.
 
A lot more study to be done and trying out different concepts for experimentation.
 
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Re: The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2015, 07:29:34 pm »
Bally

Very interesting.  I only play the 00 wheel.  Carry on, please!

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Re: The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2015, 11:30:37 pm »
american wheel is interesting! worse odds but many say it is easier to beat because of the layout.... I have heard from old timers that the third column means something----but I have never figured it out---jeesh

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Re: The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2015, 12:11:43 am »
The third column contains 10 numbers that are located in three sections of the wheel. (28, 9, 26, 30, 11, 7), (15, 3, 24, 36, 13, 1), (19, 31, 18, 6, 21, 33)

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Re: The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2015, 10:26:50 am »
Sam and all,

 It just seems to me that the layout of the American 00 wheel lends itself more to some kind of strategic attack because of the placement of the numbers.

Here in the UK, we have those roulette terminals which are linked up to the live wheels. They have all kinds of stats that you can pull up on them. The one is always check is the wheel layout which shows the peaks. Invariably there is nearly always two almost direct opposite peaks. (sometimes you get a second pair as well)

So on our single zero wheel, you may see the 9 hot on one side and the 34 hot on the opposite side. Then you may have another pair something the like the 15 on one side and the 16 on the other side. The difference is that if I wanted to play all 4 numbers, then it's costing me 4 chips a spin.  This same thing happening on the 00 wheel would many times only cost you 2 because many times the opposite numbers on the 00 wheel can be played as a split.

So this is pretty much just my original thoughts. However I was reading something from Turbogenius on that new forum the other day and he was talking about measuring the spins. So you take it from the number above where the dealer spins the ball from (not always the same as the number which just landed) to where the ball lands on this spin. So suppose the croupier spun the ball from the number 10 (00 wheel) and it landed on number 21. Then the ball has travelled a distance of 9 pockets. My idea would be to plot a graph and once again see where the peaks are. Use this information to see if some of the opposite numbers where you can bet them as a split are 'hot' in the graph you have been plotting. So now you have two angles of attack on the splits.

Unfortunately for me, I can't really try it out unless there is a live online wheel somewhere that has a 00 wheel. I can't remember for sure, but maybe Fairway or Celtic Casino had one in the past. I will take a look.

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ps  Just to add. You may be asking what's the difference between my first idea and the second idea. My experience tells me that the second idea can be more of some kind of temporary bias. Not really sure if that's because of dealer changes or not. But the first idea can be a constant for a lot of spins and like I said above, I am surprised by how many times I can go into the casino the next day and the peak of the two hottest numbers has just slightly shifted around a bit. So now maybe instead of 7 and 8, you might be looking at 19 and 20. It's certainly interesting.

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Re: The American 00 wheel + the Split Bets!
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2015, 04:28:36 pm »
The reason for this opposite phenomenon is due to how the numbers on the American wheel are placed.

One of the most effective ways to track splits that are opposite of each other is by looking at the correlation between sections within the wheel, using a 12 number strategy.

Sections
28, 9, 26, 30, 11, 7
27, 10, 25, 29, 12, 8

Splits
7-10
8-11
9-12
25-28
26-29
27-30

Sections
15, 3, 24, 36, 13, 1
16, 4, 23, 35, 14, 2

Splits
1-4
2-3
14-15
13-16
23-24
35-36

Sections
20, 32, 17, 5, 22, 34
19, 31, 18, 6, 21, 33

Splits
5-6
17-18
20-21
19-22
32-33
31-34

Strategy source: The Roulette Formula, Kimo Li