Last week I got a secret invitation to  anew forum, some others here did too.

I asked the new admin how he selected the distinguished members to join, didn't really get a good reply but was told only people at the top of their game would be there, well, als just arrived so I have asked for my account to be closed, they seem to let ANYONE join.

I'm all for change and their new look looks appealing but I cannot find the History button, anyone seen it?

Taking on the RNG in smaller faster sessions as opposed to long drawn out wars.

Have you ever noticed the first win didn't feel to bad? by this I mean even if it was a progression stretcher, it didn't make you think "this is it, it's going hurt" well, with the way I play a lot of the time the first win is just like this, no pressure or panic, maybe it's because mentally we are ready to take on the RNG that's why we logged on, we felt 'ready to play' so our spirits are high.

I also found that when I play longer sessions and mentally note any wins that were a struggle, the struggles add up and the longer you play the harder (mentally) to cope with, as many know I have played this way for about 8 months before I stopped (found I was getting bored and trigger happy)

   
• ~:trigger happy: when an unintelligent feels invincible and while tracking sees another 'thing' happen and decides to play another game while waiting, usually resulting in a war against random and leaves the player mumbling unintelligent a$$ to itself, or just straying from the current game plan, we've all been there.

so decided I needed a rest. Up to then I had not lost one session and my bet size was very rarely above X10 of its starting size. For those that didn't see them, I posted screenshots of my balance at BV, this shows all sessions for the last 10 days, no red sessions, many users have seen them so you can believe and trust I don't fluff things up to look cool.

OK 4 days ago after commenting in another thread and getting a few PMs' I decided to start playing again, but since I stopped playing months ago, you never stop thinking, I have decided that this time I will only play short, micro sessions, THIS IS NOT HIT N RUN in my opinion, I have set myself a target of 1% per session, I will play 2 sessions most days, morning and evening BUT instead of working my way up to the 1% it must be my first win, now that win could take a few bets if the 1st one is lost but that's what I am after so my bet size is 1% of my bank or as near as damit my bank was 50 euros to start so my first target was 0.50 plus the 10% commision at BV, also, I set the amount of numbers I want from them to 60 so I know it's me that's losing, I aint being mugged and I won't need them all anyway (hopefully).

The attached screenshots show the last 4 days sessions, no red ones luckily, its the session duration I am pointing out, an average of about 2 minutes, the good ones only have 2 bets, 0.50 for my 1% then I play another spin at 0.05 to cover their 10%, a few times I just played 0.60 base bet when I win, job done close game and wait for the evening.

I won't update this often as I don't run commentary but will answer any questions when someone stumbles over it, as they do.

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Any idea why? hence they have been quiet all day

Hi Everyone

As most of you will know, I have been monitoring the performance of johnlegend and his 'winning' play, well, I wasn't sure if I should create this thread or not but here goes.

As you know, last year I gave him the use of my BetVoyager account, I deposited money for him so he had zero risk, he started good (as most methods do) then failed at BV, his reason was he was getting bored playing for low stakes and would rather play at PaddyPower on their real tables as that's the only live casino he 'trusts'.

So I created an account at PP, transfered the balance over and added some money, from him, to make the account into £200 playing bank. For the first month it was slow going, not sure what size bets he was placing but I think he went up to about £220.

He asked me not to post any progress until he contacts me, fair enough I thought, until he never contacted me for a month, so last week I decided to log in and check his progress or as it appeared lack of it. I sent him a PM and an email asking hime what's happening, I have had no reply hence this thread.

The balance is £185, I just checked it this morning, it was £185 last week too.

As you all know I was promised mega riches, don't worry I wasn't expecting it to materialise as this is roulette we are talking about, so as he hasn't bothered to reply to my PM nor  my email I have changed the PaddyPower password to see if I can force a response from him, no response I keep the £185.

I also note, he has not been active here for a while, maybe he has personal issues to attend to, I would like to know where he is and what went wrong.

Am I being too harsh changing the password?

Bloke goes into a doctors surgery with a small weener

bloke: doctor can please look at my weener, I want it made bigger
doctor: let's have a look then
bloke drops his pants
doctor: mmmm, I have a sister who works at a zoo, sometimes baby elephants are still born, we could try something totally new by using the end of the trunk
bloke: sounds good to me
doctor: I'll call you when we have one

3 weeks pass by and the doctor rings the bloke to arrange surgery

after 8 weeks of recovery the bloke goes to a party looking for a hot chick to test his new member on, spots a lovely woman and meanders over to chit chat.

bloke: nice party
chick: yes
bloke: you friends with the host?
chick: yes, sort of

After about 5 minutes of chit chat, the blokes trousers unzip themselves and the new member pops out, grabs an apple from the buffet and goes back into his pants, the chick looks at him and says

wow, that was cool, can you do it again?

bloke: probably, but I don't think my ar$e can take another apple

Enjoy guys

A woman has been taken into hospital after eating horse meat burgers from tesco
Her condition is said to be stable

So they have found a Horse burger in tesco.
What's next, My Lidl pony?

Not entirely sure how Tesco are going to get over this hurdle.

Waitress in Tesco asked if I wanted anything on my Burger.
So I had a £5 each way !

Tesco Quarter Pounders: The affordable way to buy your daughter the
pony that she's always wanted!

Had some burgers from tesco for my tea last night....
I still have a bit between my teeth

Unused HMV vouchers are now being accepted at Tesco.
Just tell them HMV means 'Horse Meat Voucher'

Tesco are now testing all their vegetarian burgers for traces of uniquorn

Anyone want a burger from Tesco? Yay or neigh?

"I've just checked the Tesco burgers in my freezer...AND THEY'RE OFF"

I'm so hungry, I could eat a horse....."
I guess Tesco just listened.

Tesco now forced to deny presence of zebra in burgers, as shoppers
confuse barcodes for serving suggestions.

A cow walks into a bar. Barman says 'why the long face?'
Cow says 'Illegal ingredients, coming over here stealing our jobs!'

I hear the smaller version of those Tesco burgers make great horse d'oeuvres.

These Tesco burger jokes are going on a bit. Talk about flogging a
dead.. NO! NO NO NO!

Said to the Mrs these tesco burgers given me terrible trots.

To beef or not to beef.
That is equestrian.

Hi Guys

As a lot of you already know, I play manually each day at BVNZ, probably about 2 1/2 thousand sessions now to date, no session has been lost, for the last few days I have been trying a bit of a mixed up MM, this does help increase the bank fairly well.

Let's say the method you are playing is waiting for red to streak so when the next red lands you bet RED hoping for it to repeat, many many times it does repeat and it repeats again, but your method is only saying it will streak not for how long, here's what I have been doing.

After your methods trigger bet 0.50 if the bet wins your method dictates you wait for the next trigger, don't wait just yet, now bet .10 for the streak to continue, if it continues, cool, if not, you are still 0.40 ahead, wait for the next trigger and do it all again. You could also do the same with 5.00 and 1.00 chips, or mix it up a little, currently for me the 0.50 and 0.10 chips are fine.

Hope that helps some of you, it's helped me.

As hit and run remains a topic of discussion it would be good if everybody could vote so we can all see what percentage of members are actually doing it AND if it is working for them.

Personally I don't believe in it as it boils down to luck.

As this is now the forum most of JLs' followers are visiting/members, I have decided to move the Challenge from the old site. I may update the old site at some intervals but will focus on this site mainly.

@ JL I have a few questions mate, since you were banned from the old site we had discussed and agreed you will aim to have E40.00 by 31st December 2012. I have been looking at your play in the history of your sessions. As we discussed you were losing chips deriving from 2 major factors PRIOR to our doubling the bank agreement. You lose when progressing the RNG as you have to place a bet for each number to appear, you lost a few sessions due to f*&k%$g around trying different things, one of your main arguments to everybody is FOCUS which you must have forgot a few times.

OK back to the session I am looking at, there are 3 things that confuse me when I consider what you preach to everyone,

firstly: Hit n Run

my argument, what is hit n run if some of your sessions on the RNG @ Betvoyager are 30 seconds long but a lot are over 1 hour and 1 was 2 hours 58 minutes, so please tell us why and your reasoning behind it, it didn't take that long to get a trigger as I can also see how much you bet each spin, my next point

Secondly: Shifting the RNG

If I understood you right, you just bet 1 ec each spin red or black so you stand to make 1 unit or lose 1 unit BUT I have looked through a good handful of your sessions and I see you bet EVERY spin!! if you look at the attached screenshot you will see spin 1 was 1 unit, that's what I/we would expect, spin 2 was 4 units, why fella

Thirdly: length of progression to use

As you said you were mainly focusing on PB now I would expect to see the std 1,2,4 for a total loss of 7 units if you lose the attack, but I can't find anything like that, I see 1,8,9,9,8 etc, I see a lot of funny bet amount almost like you are behind by X so you chuck caution to the wind and hope, my opinion only but that's how its looking to me.

Balances past and present:

For those that don't know what's going on here, in short, I setup a BV account with 20 euros for JL to prove his method works, JL took up the challenge and has gone up and down in the bankroll for about 2 months now, peak reached was 30.51 euros but since then JL lost focus, lost over 8 euros, we discussed this and it started to climb again, I have only studied the recent sessions AFTER our discussion of you sticking to your plan/methods, all my above findings are since then too so I would appreciate some answers for the followers to read regarding you doing almost everything you accuse others of, not getting out before the $hit hits the fan and maintaining focus/discipline and believing in your method/s.

I look forward to your reply, please keep it to the point mate