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#1
Roulette Forum / Just a quick question
August 20, 2016, 10:05:04 AM
Hello forum friends

Sorry this  time no intro :-)

Just a quick question
Are there ...
Identical results you will get if
in the form of lost and profits?
if you  use ...

example 1
martingale
1,2,4,8,16,32
example 2
reverse martingale
32,16,8,4,2,1

I just  need to be sure

thanks in advance
BETJACK

#2
Roulette Forum / Project First March
August 18, 2016, 01:42:30 AM
Project First March

Hello forum  friends
This one is new project of mine.
Can you give me a hand with the Money management

I will add and file with results of 10,000 spins random.org

filled with optimism again
BETJACK

example 1024 spins random.org
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#3
Even chance / simple Parle progression
July 19, 2016, 10:54:22 AM
I have  read about
Paroli based systems
this is what I came up with

simple PaRLe progression
step   1;1;1;1;1;1;1;2;2;3;3;3;4;4;5;6;7;8;9;11;13;15;17;20;24;28;32;38;44;51;60;70;81;95;111;129
total 902 units
36 steps
this is three times parle 1*2*4

use with caution

BETJACK
#4

for anyone who wants to bet EVEN Chance  on a double streets (6 -line) and HIS metod of play needs monitoring before game


this post
Quote from: Sputnik on July 17, 2016, 06:02:00 PM
  So if you use 100 trails i get 300 using R&B H&L O&E with one combination and 600 using two combination and 900 charting three combinations and 1200 using four combinations.


although I did not understand what he was doing ...I like the Idea
and this is what came to me


permutation of the 6 -line
123/456  -small/big

126/453
125/346
124/356

136/245
135/246 -odd/even
134/256

236/145
235/146
234/156

145/236
146/235
156/234

245/136
246/135
256/134

345/126
346/125
356/124

there may be more...
I could not see them..
These are 19 different bets by only one Spin...

BETJACK
#5
Roulette Forum / Why I fail in the long RUN ?
July 17, 2016, 08:34:00 AM
Hello forum friends

Today I decided to publish some pictures
from my method

Anybody think such bad streak can be won?
http://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/anybody-think-such-bad-streak-can-be-won/180/
EXTREME SESSIONS

results
sessions 1/end +18  /max bet 26  /drop down -131
sessions 2/end +7   /max bet 4   /drop down -35
sessions 3/end +14  /max bet 3   /drop down -12
sessions 4/end -15  /max bet 9   /drop down -57
sessions 5/end -15   /max bet 7    /drop down -41
sessions 6/end +16  /max bet 19  /drop down -121
sessions 7/end +4   /max bet 3    /drop down -12




Harsh Sessions won by Positive gambling module
http://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/harsh-sessions-won-by-positive-gambling-module/15/

results
seq       /max bet / Drop dwon/ profit/
session 1 /  25    /   -162   /   +16  /
session 2 /  3     /   -18    /    +6  /
session 3 /  3     /   -10    /    +8  /
session 4 /  3     /   -13    /    +9  /
session 5 /  5     /   -23    /    +8  /
session 6 /  4     /   -13    /    +7  /
session 7 /  3     /   -17    /    +6  /
session 8 /  2     /   -18    /    -3  /
session 9 /  5     /   -30    /   -16  /
session 10/  9     /   -41    /   +29  /





beautiful graphics
looks good
right

then
Why I fail in the long RUN
random org 5000 spins'



random org 5000 spins 2


stop loss at 300 units

can somebody help me why I fail
where is the flaw

BETJACK
#6
Hello forum friends
I have read about
STOP LOSS
Avoidance of losses
VIRTUAL LOSS
Today I want to hear you
How do you deal (manage)  your WINS
When you have a lots of WINS
what you do
when you win a lot
and Lady Luck is with YOU

BETJACK

p.s. sessions are mirrors of
     Harsh Sessions won by Positive gambling module
#7
Roulette Forum / Enter Points ; Exit Points
June 09, 2016, 08:41:53 AM
Looking for
Entering Points in even chance games
When  is a Good Time To Start the Beting?
and
Latter
When We have to exit the game ?
#8
Roulette Forum / Expected Value
June 09, 2016, 08:31:13 AM
Expected Value
In The Long run this play is Expected to net me X amount of money
EV=(%W*$W)-(%L*$L)

EV=(%Wins*$Win money)-(%Loss*$Lose money)

In roulette
-0.06=(47*1unit)-(%53*1unit)

Can This Ever be Changed?
#9
General Discussion / how true аrе my results ?
November 06, 2015, 06:30:54 PM
Hello
recently tested bets
by random org
the first version I tested
Series 35 x 300 spins
in the second variant tested
10,000 spins
and there is quite a difference in results

my question is
how to test ...?
and the spin to Looks like test numbers are from RNG Cassino
test 1
series 35 X300 Spins
bets around  1700
profit 260u

test2
10,000 spins
bets around 1700
profit 104u

what do you think ?
how true  аrе my results ?


p.s
excited for the first time achieve such wins



#10
Money Management / Looking for MM
October 27, 2015, 12:23:03 PM
Loookig for MM..
Looking for way to play this...
I Have done some testing...
test are from random org ... so there is no house Edge...

How to Bet On it...?

TEST 1
LWLWLLWLWLWWWWLLLLWLWWWWWLLWLWLLLWWWLWWWWWWWLW
TEST 2
LWWLLWLLLLLWLWWWLLLWLWLWWWLLLWLWLWLLLLLWWLWLLWLWLWWLLLWLWLWWWLW
TEST 3
WWLLLLWWWLWLLLLWWLWLLLWWLLLLLLWLWWWLWWLWLLWWWLWWLWWWWLWW
TEST 4
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TEST 5
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TEST 6
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TEST 7
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TEST 8
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TEST 9
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TEST 10
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TEST 11
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TEST 12
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TEST 13
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TEST 14
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TEST 15
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TEST 16
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TEST 17
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TEST 18
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TEST 19
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TEST 20
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TEST 21
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TEST 22
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TEST 23
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TEST 24
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TEST 25
LWWWWLLWWWWWLLLWWWLLLLLLWWLWWWLWLWLLWWWWLWWWWLWLWLLWLLW
TEST 26
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TEST 27
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TEST 28
WWLWWLWWLLLWLWLWWWLWLWWWLLWWLLLLLWWLLLWLWWLLWLWWWWWLLLW
TEST 29
LLWWLWWLLWWWWWLWLLLLLLLWWWWWLLLWWWLLWWWWWLLWWWLW
TEST 30
WWLWWLWLWWLLLWLWWWWWWLLWWWWWWLLLWWLLWWLWWLLW
TEST 31
WWLWWLWLLLLLWLWWWWWLWLLWWWLWLWWLLLLLWWWLWLWLLLWWLLWLWWLLWWWW
TEST 32
WLWWLWLWWWLLWLLWLWWWLWLWLLLWLLLWWLLLLWWLWWWWLWWLWLWWW
TEST 33
LWWWWWWWWLLLLWLLLWLWLLWLLWWWLWLWWWWLWWWWLWWWWLLL
TEST 34
WWWWLLLWLLLLLWWWWWLLLWLWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLWWLWLWWWWWLWL
TEST 35
WLLLWLWLWLLLLLLLWLWLLWWWWLWLWLLLWWLLWWLLWWWLWLWLWLLWLWWWWWLLW


Guys what do you think ?
#11
Roulette Forum / I want to become Trend player
October 17, 2015, 06:40:52 AM
I want to become Trend player
for 5 years reading great forums for Gambling and Betting
Practically only that I have not tried to find my grail ...
So how to  Trend ?
How Better WITH trend or Conversely ?
At my big question is how to determine what will be The trend ? Before we begin to bet ...

I have read many times next ...
and like everything else works sometimes. What can I do to make it work better ... ?

and can not find ""AC Butch's Money Management Plan""


This even chance bet selection method is a tweak on my favorite e.c. trend catcher method.
I usually play FTL (follow the last).
If I get RBR I play for the single chops to continue.
If I get BRRBB I play for the double chops to continue.
Something I've noticed is that very often we get RRRBRRRRRBRRR. So we have a streak of R's
interrupted by a B every now and then. So, anytime we are betting a trend RRRR and we get a chop
RRRRB, instead of immediately switching to B, we assume that B is an interrupt and continue to
play for R's. If we do get RRRRBR we continue to play for the R trend to continue.
If it were to go to RRRRBB we would assume the B's are trending.
But if we get RRRRBBR now we have a good indication that doubles are trending so we bet for the
doubles to continue.
If we are playing RBRBR (chops) and we get RBRBRR this second R is assumed to be an interrupt
so we bet this RBRBRRB. We ignore the 2nd R and play for the chop.
If we get RBRBRRR, we have a clear indication that R is trending and bet accordingly.
If we have RBBRRBB and we get a B, we treat it like an interrupt and our next bet is for RR like
this: RBBRRBBBR.
If we get another B we have a difinite B trend so bet accordinly.
Those are the basic patterns and interrupts I play for.
I try to switch back and forth between the interrupt method and the non-interrupt method depending
on which would be doing the better. This knowing when to switch is not a science. It's a personal
decision based on experience playing the bet selection methods.
The ability to do this with enough expertise to make a difference falls under the heading of knowing
your system like the back of your hand.
All I can say is this is learned by comparing the results of a series of spins against interrupt vs noninterrupt
enough so you can tell which would be winning the best. We're assuming, of course, that
the current trend will continue long enough for you to identify a tendency on one side or the other
and it will last long enough for you to profit from it.
Often it doesn't. But all you have to do is win a few more spins every now and then by switching vs
just playing one method blindly. 3 or 4 extra wins per hour can make a big difference in your
bottom line.
GLC
_______________________________________
As some of you may know I have been testing/playing a merge with my bet selection method and
GLC's Interrupt method.
But first a recap of the basic method looking back three hands:
AAA bet A
ABA Bet B
ABB Bet B
AAB Bet B
Killer sequence is ABBABBABBABBA I have seen this pattern continue for up to eleven spins!
Now this is how I play for the killer sequence 3 or 4 basic method losses in a row bet for the killer
sequence, you have two ways of doing that, you could try and bet for the pattern to continue
ABBABBA and keep betting for the pattern until a break in the pattern, or as I mainly do just bet on
the B side so in the following sequence BBABBABBA I would get WWLWWLWWL, this is how I
play the killer pattern most of the time but sometimes I will try and go for the whole killer pattern
and go for the A part of the pattern, to get WWWWWWWWW, it's a matter of choice and how you
feel your session is going, what I found though a lot of the time the AABAABAA is broken by
going into AABAABAA-A so that is why most of the time I just stick to betting on the B side of the
killer pattern.
Now the above is based on basic method and when I talk about going for the Killer pattern after 3/4
losses it is based on if you had just played the basic bet selection method straight.
Right now you have read the thread you should understand about GLC's interrupt tweak.
I have also introduced a play for the 22 pattern,
ABBAA bet B for the chop to continue.
+AAABBAAB bet B for the chop to continue.
I played three sessions this morning on slingshot roulette, they ended +18, +13, +4 = +35
The +4 session ended after 13 spins due to problems on the site, it stopped updating the the results
and would not allow me to place any bets, so I just called it a day, after all I had already made +35
units for less than a few hours work.
I have attached my blank Roulette/Baccarat scorecards they aver very easy to use when you are
playing all you have to do is just place you unit bet size under the # column, so if in the next round
you wanted to place a three unit bet for red just enter 3 and once the round is over you enter an X in
the cell that won, based on where you entered your bet value and X the spreadsheet will know if
your bet won or not and will update you balance for you accordingly, if you are using the roulette
score card and a zero comes up just enter a Z for both R & B and the spreadsheet will know your
bet lost and update your balance for you also.
When you look at the two sessions I posted you will sometimes see and I in the blank colulmn that
means I have placed a Interrupt bet as per GLC's thread, and if you see a K that means I have had
three basic method losses in a row and I'm playing for the killer sequence.
If you are interested in the progression I used I have attached that for to look at, I'm sure most of
you have seen AC Butch's Money Management Plan before, it has been around for a long time and
is freely available on the net.
One thing the CLB column is the Current Loss Balance since my last session high, in Butch's
progression it states that if you have two wins in a row you then increas you bets so
2W2W3W3W4W4W ect, well if my CLB is bellow 0 then I will just place my bets based on the "If
you are down x" part of the document and if I do get the CLB back to z or better and on a winning
streak , will bet 3 units for a win ect. you will see examples of that in my two posted sessions, also
once I get to +14 I will never place a bet that will take my CLB bellow -5, I use the CLB as a
trailing stop-loss.
Also on my scorecards I have a Stage column if you use a progression that changes based on how
many units you are up or down you can track that in the stage column, you start of at stage 1 and
say you are down -6 and your progression calls for an increase just enter 2 in the stage column and
it will reset the stage to zero so you can track your wins losses for that stage.
If you use virtual betting in your method just enter V in the blank column next the the W/L column
and it will reset the bet value to zero but still track if you would have won or lost, so enter what unit
value you would have placed and enter V in the blank column, the spreadsheet will take care of the
rest.
malcop
#12
Roulette Forum / roulette system... I need Your Help
December 14, 2014, 09:17:03 PM
first attempts at long post
, rough thoughts ... and a little help
first
English is not my native language
Excuse me if bad punctuation
Little to say about me.
I'm not gambler and do not like to bet ...
I tried almost all the games
Sports Betting (with someone else predictions), slot games, poker a little bit .. roulette ... and I have not always won
and as open forums of Vic ... I think that randomness can be defeated ...

Now on the subject
I read a lot of things ...
in many of the forums here
and my conclusion

How should look like a workable system for roulette
meaning one that is profitable
Such that to have security to play and know that it will come out a winner

hit and run - There is no point. always there a  next spin ,and it is Special just for you. whether it's after hour, day or week it is there

waiting you.

Stop playing when you have reached a limit accumulated victory or accumulated loss.... will not matter ...you just stretch the game in

time.... is  it  not  all spins are the same.

Too many systems have a limit ... and when it becomes passed. the huge loss cames  which can not be returned
Too many system have negative Progressives....
Most systems have set very high expectations for profit therefore fail

in sports betting  TIPSTERS have ....Return on investment (ROI) best reach 105-120%
I think it is a good limit for seeking profit ...on a  working system

In poker  Players  do not play  every Hand ... All hands played up 12-17% of all hands.
Players play  Hands are that have a certain value.
And in  should not be bet on each spin.
Someone had wrote that you need to find the weak spot of the  roulette and used
In sports betting TIPSTERS choose meetings Average odds 1.8
Someone had wrote that bad bet on roulette is that of who bet more than 18 numbers ...
Eventually I came up with two simple bet

first bet
A Token of Low
A Token of First dozen
A Token of Second dozen

Reverse First bet
A Token of High
A Token of Second dozen
One Token Third dozen

second Pledge
Two tokens of the second dozen (because includes high and low numbers)
A Token of the first dozen

Second reverse bet
Two tokens of the second dozen
One Token Third dozen

And this is the moment in which I need help to all who will be involved in this topic
What is still needed
1.necessary is a   Trigger When to bet on these bets. Certainly should not bet all spins
2. Progression bet .If all may be needed. Preferably a Positive ...
(here I expect Albalaha to intervene decisive .. May he plays a positive progression. so I read )
3. Management of the Bank ...
(For example Something like ... Regression Up and Pull - 2,1,2,3,5)

It is not mandatory to use all bets. We  will win ...  to find a weak spot and the pressure there ...
(successful Trigger for One of the Betting selection)

I read somewhere that to be successful one system do not have to be complicated ..

Thanks in advance to all who will Help   me  ... and google translate
#13
I want to make module for BetSofware

What should I download / install
To program the module for BetSoftware

My operational program is windows7

Jack

P.S. Hi Vic ...  I did not tell  You. Betsoftvare icon is very cool  :)
#14
I think it is a good idea
module "" History "" to be  add  an option to   "" copy ""   the (past) numbers
....to keep on file ...

. posted here because I saw that this is a section for proposals
#15
Hello ...
little question
which theoretically bet there will be short consecutive losing streak   (LLLLLw)

option One
just choose two dozen permanent and bet on them throughout the session ... Examples 1 and 2 doses

option two
if the roll number is ""RO""  or ""BE ""  then bet  Doz2 +Doz3
if the roll number is ""RE""  or ""BO ""  then bet  Doz1 +Doz2

option three
We use Vic ---  Lw tracker 
and bet on the Last Dozens
or Jump Dozens ...
I can not decide
is there a  big difference between betting on LD то JD??

Which option will average short losing streak??

#16
General Discussion / 14 RED x 5
June 26, 2014, 08:53:24 AM
Hello
Yesterday I played for fun
and this is what happened
First time I've seen such a thing

""14 RED  x 5 ""



http://www.imagebam.com/image/68b41b335247208

* posted here because I do not know where else to put it... Noob  user

Jack, still trying to win