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[marinetech]

Nice to see that the john-O has made the scene, again, hey hey.

Rest assured I am not your pal johnno. You think that anyone who says something contrary to what you say is someone out to get you? I think that is called paranoia...

I don't think you are a scammer because you are not selling anything. I just don't think you are what you say you are. Its that simple. This is the internet and you can say you have trillions and have 15 supermodels at your disposal. Cool, great story.

But, you hang in a forum and make outrageous (and UNPROVEN) claims that you are a big winner for 30+ years and have to have balls to win and bet, etc, etc.....

You toot your horn but provide 0 substance.....

[TheLaw]

Already tested Seth's method.........and it tanked. http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15786.msg136479#msg136479

If you read the blog carefully, you'll notice that eventually he claims that you will get to the 5000 unit loss, and then just try to win more than you lose to get back to even.........because it's due (wish I had a dollar for every time I heard that one).

Seth also claims that you should move to another table when things turn south..........but also claims that moving tables doesn't matter in the long run. This is called invisible compromise........used to slip out of a logical argument when you're losing.

Even in early testing of the most Conservative approach he suggests.........I hit the 5000 unit ceiling many times.

The major red flag, which should be apparent to anyone reading his material.........is where is his proof of winning For a guy who loves charts........you would think he would have a few cash-out receipts laying around to show off.

from the blog :

"Whenever you feel uncomfortable or threatened in a given location, move and take your NB/LTD numbers to a new layout ("the math" will be unaffected).".

"Anyone who has ever gambled in a casino for more than an hour or two knows the value of taking a break when a prolonged losing streak sets in, and listening to a combination of experience and gut feelings that signal when a change of scene is needed."

You heard it here first..........use your "gut feeling" and you'll be fine!!!

[marinetech]

Seth is another piker. A lonely fool who bets infinite money and claims he can beat the casinos and sports betting!!! LMAO! As the law stated, where is some proof, any proof? In todays day and age, you need proof. Otherwise, a talker is just that, A TALKER!!!!!!

Time for me to get on the private jet and head to macau, me and bilzerian have a casino to take down and a bunch of groupies to join us for the longggg trip. Carry on now, HEY HEY!!

[alrelax]

We are all lost at sea then..

Short term, quick payoff money---means;  Say I wagered $300 and won and then pressed it and won again.  The winnings would turn into be my 'short-term quick payoff money'.  BTW, at least in my experiences, there is nothing better than a fresh newbie sitting down at a table full of seasoned 'pros' losing their behind.  I would not think twice to follow the newbie if he started winning.  Happens all the darn time!  Seen their $25 or $50 or even $100 against four-five-six players wagering thousands a hand.  Somehow, just works out that the newbie will smack the casino for numerous hands.  Guess it's the casinos way to suck in new meat, but actually does happen all the time.  That is what I was referring to. 

[Jimske]

Short term, quick payoff money---means;  Say I wagered $300 and won and then pressed it and won again.  The winnings would turn into be my 'short-term quick payoff money'.  BTW, at least in my experiences, there is nothing better than a fresh newbie sitting down at a table full of seasoned 'pros' losing their behind.  I would not think twice to follow the newbie if he started winning.  Happens all the darn time!  Seen their $25 or $50 or even $100 against four-five-six players wagering thousands a hand.  Somehow, just works out that the newbie will smack the casino for numerous hands.  Guess it's the casinos way to suck in new meat, but actually does happen all the time.  That is what I was referring to.

Maybe you're gonna be my new BFF!  Just kidding.  When you play as much as you have (and I have) you do see this but really?  Not very often.  It's just that it sticks in your mind when you do see it.

This happened a couple of weeks ago in fact.  This "kid" sits down with $100.00.  Playing 2 green and bumping and hitting nearly every hand.  In no time he is up a thousand bucks!  LMAO.  Everyone else is doing there thing and well, doing okay, struggling - there is nothing on the board that is shouting out "take the rack."  He loses a few hands and then goes all in.  He is "home alone" and of course he wins! 

He is next to me and I says, "Look, it's none of my business but let me pretend you're my son.  Put something in your pocket and walk with that at least.  The chandeliers are not being paid by winners."  He makes a few more smaller bets, loses and leaves.  Good.

But we all know it's the exception - not the rule!

[Jimske]

HAHA that is rich. You guys are that weak that you actually want to find someone who has never played and follow them because they have beginner luck?   

The fact of the matter is that you can piggy back on any one player or players regardless of tenure.  Something about baccarat that is completely lost on poker players.  Hey a hot hand is a hot hand...  Over the past couple days, I have had floor managers, dealers, and other players go out of there way to say a little something or do things that really helped me get through some very, very crappy situations.

These observations can be made in any arena where money is put at risk...

Excuse me, I want to see how good I am at baccarat and whether I can teach someone easily. Want to try?

See, I knew you had it in you!  It's the "old hot hand" syndrome.  And if that doesn't work out then just ask one of the pit critters to give you some advice!

Amazing how that casino he supposedly plays in even says in business!

Ahhh, hey Aces, you're gonna have to do a bit more than tell people to follow the hot hand an ask the pit waht to do if you want to teach people how to play!  But why teach when you can jsut quit your job and go to that casino ATM machine?

I love this site!

[soxfan]

But, you hang in a forum and make outrageous (and UNPROVEN) claims that you are a big winner for 30+ years and have to have balls to win and bet, etc, etc.....

You toot your horn but provide 0 substance.....

I NEVER claimed to have been winning at the baccarats for 30+ years. So, it seems that you, like the john-O/mr.tilt have a reading comprehension problem, hey hey.

[21 Aces]

See, I knew you had it in you!  It's the "old hot hand" syndrome.  And if that doesn't work out then just ask one of the pit critters to give you some advice!

Amazing how that casino he supposedly plays in even says in business!

Ahhh, hey Aces, you're gonna have to do a bit more than tell people to follow the hot hand an ask the pit waht to do if you want to teach people how to play!  But why teach when you can jsut quit your job and go to that casino ATM machine?

I love this site!

I already posted an s load if you would bother to read under several other threads.  I have enough skill to go pro, but it's been a difficult week which has included a personal best.  One losing day since the beginning of March, but I see my game as weak right now.
- Bet size out of control at times.
- Strike rate from very poor to very good.
- Play duration pushing the limit.
- Having to win back.
- Missing some high payout bets.

Solid play is commanding
- Controlled bet sizing always.
- Strike rate decent to very good.
- On or ahead of schedule as far as play time.
- Building a small lead and building on that lead and playing defensively ahead to close out.
- Hitting Bank/ Player and high payout bets because you are on it and even if nobody else bets same you do not give one F.


C'mon there is nothing better than doing well with the entire table and then it's like a team and everybody is winning and cheering and calling out all the lucky ways to describe the game.  Then it's like at full clip and your just along for the ride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfOD2y_AD_w


I never stated that I ask dealers or floor managers what bet to make or how much, but they know how everyone is doing and when they take time out to put in an encouraging word it does make a difference.  Maybe they just like me and not you. 

[Jimske]

I already posted an s load if you would bother to read under several other threads.  I have enough skill to go pro, but it's been a difficult week which has included a personal best.  One losing day since the beginning of March, but I see my game as weak right now.

I have read a s load of vague nonsense!  That's why I tune in!  The hits keep coming!

Since the beginning of March, huh?  What happened Dec, Jan, and Feb?  Weren't following the hot hand then?

I never stated that I ask dealers or floor managers what bet to make or how much, but they know how everyone is doing and when they take time out to put in an encouraging word it does make a difference.  Maybe they just like me and not you.

Awwww!  The encouraging word!  Heheheh.  It's like one happy family!  Yeah they're all friendly enough.  Why shouldn't they be?  They like everybody.  It's there job!

Been playing since March and ready to go pro?  Keep us informed!

J

[21 Aces]

- Started in late November.
- Had some losing days and very memorable difficult times, but winning on a net basis through that time frame all in.
- Would almost exclusively go Friday, Saturday, and Sunday - now I play a lot more.  3 vs. 5-7 days/ week is a big difference.  I'm at max schedule.

- Preparation
- Domination Anticipation
- Dragons   
- Natural 8's and 9's, Win Margins, and Ties

[marinetech]

I NEVER claimed to have been winning at the baccarats for 30+ years. So, it seems that you, like the john-O/mr.tilt have a reading comprehension problem, hey hey.

Listen, I don't know you, don't care to but you always make it seem like you win and win often. You claim you need a progression and have BIG BALLS, etc, etc. But, again, that is all you do, talk......and talk......and talk........sort of like asym does. You guys must be related because you talk a really big game but neither of you provide anything. zip. zilch. nada.

I guess I don't get it but i don't have to. Again, i have no problems with you, I don't know you but I have a problem with people who claim they make "cake", but never disclose the ingredients. To me, that is someone who loves the attention. Hey, look at me! I bet big and I use longggggg progressions and use DEEP pockets. SO WHAT???

Whoever johno is or the other guy, maybe you are obsessed with them. I could care less about either one. Carry on...

[21 Aces]

It's difficult because certain undisclosed real world considerations provide incentive not to document performance.  Not sure what those are though.   

[Gizmotron]

And fall for what exactly?  That you got to be a disciplined skillful player to win this game?

Skill was not enough; I had to get out of my own way. Accepting a reasonable expectation was the only way for me to stop feeding the chimp, as at least one here has explained it. If I get my win streak early at a casino I'll play on for a second win streak. If the win streak takes hours to come then I leave when the win streak ends. I've got the skill to leave when enough is enough. I'm never exposed so DEEP that I need a miracle on the next spin or I don't have the balls. Speaking of balls, I climbed many of the great walls in Yosemite, skied off Mt Shasta's North Face, flew an airplane down the face of Half Dome, SCUBA dived to 200 ft deep in Lake Tahoe in February, and Windsurfed 23ft tall waves in 35 mile per hour wind under the Golden Gate Bridge, not mentioning many other ballsy adventures, that's not including many careers and capabilities. So suggesting that it takes balls to use progressions to me, after becoming a computer programmer and testing every mechanical rule based idea ever explained, including the one from this thread that suggests that it can't be programmed is like saying it doesn't take brains.

It takes brains to win as a skillful player. Much of smart play comes from many years of not playing smart and making recreational gambler mistakes.

Check out the chemical dependency and the area of the brain that shuts down when anyone becomes a problem or addicted gambler. It takes smarts.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-the-brain-gets-addicted-to-gambling/

Even more compelling, neuroscientists have learned that drugs and gambling alter many of the same brain circuits in similar ways. These insights come from studies of blood flow and electrical activity in people's brains as they complete various tasks on computers that either mimic casino games or test their impulse control. ...

A 2005 German study using such a card game suggests problem gamblers—like drug addicts—have lost sensitivity to their high: when winning, subjects had lower than typical electrical activity in a key region of the brain's reward system. In a 2003 study at Yale University and a 2012 study at the University of Amsterdam, pathological gamblers taking tests that measured their impulsivity had unusually low levels of electrical activity in prefrontal brain regions that help people assess risks and suppress instincts. Drug addicts also often have a listless prefrontal cortex.

[alrelax]

It takes brains to win as a skillful player. Much of smart play comes from many years of not playing smart and making recreational gambler mistakes.

It takes smarts.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-the-brain-gets-addicted-to-gambling/

But it is the same in many many different aspects of professions and hobbies.

I was in heavy wrecker and recovery for many years, so very true!  Damages that could have been avoided, and unintelligent mistakes and costly ones, ones that cost tens of thousands and also hundreds of thousands of dollars!!!!!  But the best of the best learns from their mistakes and mishaps and move forward, applies their mistakes and learned wisdoms.  The list is endless! 

[alrelax]

>>>>>>>>>>Skill was not enough;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

>>>>>>>>Much of smart play comes from many years of not playing smart<<<<<<<<<<<<.

If one has not been there---that person most likely will NOT KNOW where to tread or don't tread.