Quote from: soxfan on April 01, 2015, 09:20:21 PMThat's "Stetson" not "Preston" but yeah he states himself that double wins seem to be more prevalent with this placement. It does seem that he may have something there but I haven't tested it thoroughly.
I agree with that Preston Bailey cat. Yeasr ago Itested double zz against craps decision P-Dp using star as written and it did seem to be efficient at capturing the back to back win, hey hey.
Quote from: horus on April 02, 2015, 08:54:46 AMI think Roulette a different animal. Nevertheless, I agree (Gr8 as well) that for some reason the second half of the shoe seems to "unravel" or change. Perhaps it's due to the normal change of card distribution as some cards become unavailable OR maybe just selective memory. After all the deck tends to change all the time.
Jimske, The whole shoe was a good one for trending IMO. It reminds me of what PerryB always said....''control the losses and the wins will take care of themself'' I use a basic template like the one above and then only get funky if need be. One thing I have noticed which is a bit strange and I have seen other posters on different forums comment on it before as well is how the last portion of the shoe can often just completely go against everything previous. I have noticed that testing from several different sources. Obviously there is an easy answer....just don't play the last portion, lol. But it's strange none the less. I think the same applies to Roulette a bit. Too much data/information is not always a good thing. My success seems to come in short spells in both formats.
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Maybe this will kick off a discussion of bet selection. Here are the questions. I've tried to raise them before but doesn't seem to go anywhere. Maybe Andy shoe will kick it off. 1. Is there a bet selection that wins more hands than loses? 2. Do different bet selection change the flow of W and L even though the total W/L rate remains the same?
Let's take a look at TBL vs. XXOO vs. OTBL vs. ZZ for simple starters. Choose favorite templates if you want. Does one or the other produce choppier W and L? Does one or the other produce longer runs of W and L?
It's often been said that it is important to match one's betting scheme with one's bet placement. If there is truly a differential between placements as mentioned above then this would be a key to winning wouldn't it? There is a reason why some achieve a higher win rate than the EV. I'm not going to do any hinting like asymbacc. People will have different opinions.
Take a shoe like Andy's for instance. He didn't lose more than 3 IAR. Suppose we play ZZ against that shoe. What do the W and L rates and runs look like? How do they compare? Assymbadc said "progressions, progressions, progressions." We all know that progressions don't change expectation but . . .would different progressions perform better with different placements? Can we use the W and L rates and composition to actually win more hands than lose?
Anybody interested?
J