very nice, thanks 

I thnik i finally got this Sputnik

so this would be +4? (zero is a loss)

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what should our win goal be and do you think this would work better on baccarat, craps...( games with no zero )?

quick test, after 500 results +45 (115 wins, 10 losses), very nice, thanks for sharing     (that's without commision)

thanks for your answer malcop

did a few quick test runs and it performs quite ok for now

gonna look at the baccarat too

so you say a BR of 20 units is ok - still valid or do we use bigger BR cause you had a few -20's back there?

thanks for sharing malcop
one question, what if after a trigger we get a zero? do we dicard that trigger or record what happens after zero?
or if ie we have AA0 then we don't bet the next time we have the AA trigger and wait for A,B or C to come after AA for our next trigger?

Quote from: Turner on August 17, 2013, 07:31:24 PM
Sogget...all numbers sleep that much over many spins.....so 100k spins, all numbers will of slept for high numbers..


What sample size do you mean

I know that, I meant like 150 spins samples where theese sleeps happen
so like in 150 spins 5 numbers slept for lets say 104 spins from the beggining of the spins
If anyone has some spins like that

Also, I forgot to add, single zero please

hy all

I'm doing some testing and researching and I am wondering if someone can help me
I need sets of spins in which 3,4 or 5 numbers sleep for longer than expected ie, 3 numbers longer than 110 spins, 4 numbers longer than 100 spins and 5 numbers longer than 90 spins (or even longer if you have)
they don't all need to be sleepeing at the same time, for instance you can have 33 numbers appear till spin 60 and then the rest 4 sleep for over 100 spins
also the sleeping numbers must eventually show - I need to know when they eventually show up
Im not looking for the longest sleepers ever (although if you have them then I'll take it offcourse) but just over expected average

thanks in advance

no problem Bally
looking forward to hear more of your results

btw - so you play only one color at a time?not both?


the next 300 spins were not that good but still ok, here is the 600 spins grapf, remember its only flatbetting

here is a quick 300 spin test playing both red and black groups, flatbetting
Unless I got something wrong this does quite good (for now at least)


numbers if someone wants to check
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Quote from: Priyanka on July 03, 2013, 04:20:33 PM

Sogget,

Can you show with 6-8 spins on how you play it?

no problem, but I just realised I played it wrong, lol
I used 3 lines instead of 1, misread I guess

anyway, I tested like this:
If 1,3 or 5 line shows I play 2,4, and 6 - and vice versa if 2,4 or 6 came I play 1,3 and 5
I play for 3 spins using 1,2,3 - so you win 1, end even or lose 6 units

after 3 losses I start betting "same" - meaning if 1,3 or 5 was last spin I play 1,3 and 5
or if 2,4 or 6 was last spin I play 2,4 and 6
again after 3 losses I switch to playing "opposite" and so on

little example:

lines coming in:
1 - I bet 2,4,6
5 - loss, bet 2,4,6
3 - loss, bet 2,4,6
6 - win, bet 1,3,5
5 - win, bet 2,4,6
3 - loss, bet 2,4,6
4 - win, bet 1,3,5
and so on

a loss example
1 - bet 2,4,6
3 - loss, bet 2,4,6
1 - loss, bet 2,4,6
5 - loss, switch (cause of 3 losses) bet same, bet 1,3,5
1 - win, keep betting same, bet 1,3,5
2 - loss, bet 1,3,5
6 - loss, bet 1,3,5
4 - loss, switch (3 losses) bet opposite, bet 1,3,5
1 - win, bet 2,4,6
4 - win, bet 1,3,5

and so on

hope it is clear, ask if you have doubts

must go re-read Vic's post again, and test it the right way

tested a couple of sessions with just 1,2,3 then reset - this performs quite good, I get about 10-20 units per 100 spins
still early but quite good
flatbetting has also an apeal here, low win goal is easily obtained
very nice Vic 

Quote from: Turner on July 03, 2013, 10:25:37 AM
Hi sogget
I play first dd because i wanto just win. that's it. 1:2 odds.
I play h/l to get the dd loss back...and win 1:1
1:2 followed by 1:1. In the trigger quad area.
Then on to the quad via streets.
The quads will only fit into 2dozens completly
1 =D1,2  then low
2 = D1,2 then low
3= D2,3 then high
4=D2,3 then high.

Half my wins are dd hit where the trigger dint hit

thanks, got it now

edit, first test 100 spins - ends +13 units, so far so good
(I wasn't retracking, after win start from scratch)

Turner, when quad 1 or 4 qualifies do you bet 2 dozens or just 1?
if quad 1 qualifies you bet dozen 1 and 2 or what? same for quad 4
briefly going over my previous tests it looks very good so far, I will give this a go but I need to know this first

Quote from: GreatGrampa on June 12, 2013, 02:26:58 PM
Soggett, it was a miss! I should have started on 11/12

ok, just wanted to make it clear

Quote from: GreatGrampa on June 12, 2013, 03:47:11 AM
Here you go! With virtual spins after 10 continuous losses.

thank you very much

one question though
on spin 8, when 12 hit - why didn't you start betting split 11/12?
looks like a very tough session but it still ends in plus