Quote from: Sputnik on April 08, 2017, 03:24:21 PM
I don't fully understand the progression, maybe there is a type error, because using a 1, 2, 1, 1 2, 3 , 4 progression is not logic.
First bet is 1 and second bet is 2 then back to 1 and 1 again then higher bets again 2 3 4 ...

I would understand if he use 1 2 2 where you win two first bet and accept -1 loss at the third bet and recoup with the other four bets, but that is not the case.
And 122 is the same thing as staking 111 where both win or break even with the two first bets and accept -1 unit loss at the end, from that i reckon you could build recoup progression.

So i assume 1 1 1 2 2 3 4 would be a option, but i have a hard time see that you bet higher at the beginning and then lower you bets and then again bet higher.

Cheers

Nick,

I start a mild progression with a 1 unit bet, If it wins, then I restart at 1 unit. If it losses, then I go to 2 units. if it losses then I go to 1 ect ect as a 1,2,1,1,2,3,4, progression.

What I know is that the majority of my bets with my bet selection win the first or second bet. I took a ton of shoes and knowing the percentages of the first bet or second or third or fourth ect. I matched it up with what would give me the largest return with a minimal risk. Please keep in mind I wanted a mm that was minimal in risk of ruin while still helping me achieve a small unit win per shoe.
My win goal isn't that high as I believe in betting larger chip size with small unit gains as opposed to trying to win more units at a lower unit size.
so for me its just about matching up winning percentages with the best mm .
Hope this helps

Quote from: jsintl on April 08, 2017, 11:30:30 AM
Hello!  Nice results.  Regarding your progression, do you reset back to 1 on any win?  Thanks

Yes after any win, I start over again

yes me too.......perhaps we can continue on our own shoes???

shoe 16  + 5
shoe 17  +11
shoe 18  +10
shoe 19   +9
shoe 20   -6

shoe 16-40 =39 units

using a 1, 2, 1, 1 2, 3 , 4 progression

ok, I was just thinking it wasn't the same since you are flat betting but I will post the next shoes

I was getting ready to post my next 10 shoe results but I feel that it isn't right to add to thread with my results because I employ a mild progression which adulay isn't and I'm not sure about bailey. I just saw the post that asked why others aren't posting results and I thought I would join in. So I will replay my shoes using flat betting as adulay does so it's more apples to apples comparison. But I can say I'm sure adulay will be kicking my butt as my approach scores better with a mild progression.

Quote from: Sputnik on April 06, 2017, 02:45:01 PM
I follow this topic and like it very much.
All results from Adulay and Bally is valid and no guess work or hide and seek topic.

Adulay mention what method he use and anyone can read about the method and get the same results playing it.
Bally mention that he will at the end of the testing show what method he used.

Others who join and show results without mention what method they use so other can test and get same results are just empty words and claims with no validation.

Cheers

Nick
I am using a method I learned from another website. I will also devulge my method after this test. AD is fully aware of this approach and if you'd like further confirmation I'm sure AD would love to double check I'm playing the approach correctly.
Also, I am not in need of validation nor do I seek it. I get my validation daily from a boat that will never leave the shore. Winner winner chicken dinner.

Ok, as promised here are some of my results-I still have to catch up

Shoe 1   +9
Shoe 2   +21
Shoe 3   +3
Shoe 4   +9
Shoe 5   +4

Total +46

Shoe 6   +4
Shoe 7   -4
Shoe 8   +11
Shoe 9   +5
Shoe 10   -3

Total +13    total 1-10  +59

Shoe 11   +12
Shoe 12   +11
Shoe 13    -1
Shoe 14   -4
Shoe 15   +6

Total +24

1-15 total  +73

Quote from: ADulay on April 01, 2017, 10:26:48 PM
Isn't anybody else going to play these shoes with their normal methods?

AD

I am going to post my method here shortly AD plus and older one as well

Is anyone still playing this approach?

I like meeting and networking ideas with like-minded professionals.......also I like to try to figure out whose alias are whose....

All I know is I use a mild progression and have 28 live happy shoes with this approach. Maybe it's because in my lifetime I will never come close to entering "the long term". Did you know mathematically and scientifically the bumblebee can't fly but yet it does.....

for me, I am playing this live-21 completed shoes using a negative progression and I'm quite pleased with the results.
Thanks Nick for sharing this approach!!!

I'm doing quite well with this method. For me, I see its advantages and using a slight progression helps. This approach may not be for everyone

Nick
For me I'm not so much concerned win getting more bets in as I am with being able to take advantage of what the shoe is putting out. In ADs shoes, using the 2 back restart he was able to pick up more wins due to the longer streaks. I am just testing to see if there is an advantage to using a 2 back restart on all streaks and chop wins vs my restart after a win . Like AD said playing this method consistently each and every shoe is important. Thanks for all your help with this!