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[alrelax]

We went last night and started playing.  Got about 15 mins into it and my night dispatcher calls me for a semi truck roll over on the interstate. 

I played the first 10 hands of the shoe we started.  I felt fortune 7 and played it 8 times out of the past 10 hands.  I tell h-money I have to go and asked him to come help me.  He said he wanted to gamble.  As I was walking away the next hand was a fortune 7!  I can't believe it!!

I been out on the interstate all night.  H-money kept texting how he was losing and of course blamed it on the dealers, lol.

No matter what, my business comes first.  I have witnessed so many players over the many years I have played, especially in the larger gaming jurisdictions, ruin their businesses over gambling and vices that winning at gambling bring to so many that fall prey to them as well. 

I literally got ten or 15 min's into the shoe we all started and then the call came in to handle what is shown below.  I always go for the F-7 in the first 10 hands or so and yes, as I said--as soon as I got up and walk to the cashier, literally the very next hand was an F-7.  I believe it was the 11th. 

The state police had no extra manpower due to the holiday weekend and as well, the semi tractor trailer was already off the roadway, so we had to do all the traffic control and clean-up, etc.  H-money called me how great the shoe was when I left and all the F-7's but the following ones sucked and how everyone was just playing the 'cut' or following repeats and not playing for the 'cut' when it was making only chops.  That is what the game is, what wins one time around, is what losses when it comes around again, or possible not.  LOL.  But like I said, he started to win, stayed too long, had visions of getting all his money back and then lost another $15k. 

I was out on the highway all night and 1/2 the next day.  Did I want to go, no.  But, if I did not, my mind, frame-of-mind--would have been jeopardized by not going and sending one of my guys to do the task that I really needed to handle in the first place.  Gambling is more than just sitting there attempting to make the correct wagering decisions.  You can say otherwise, but IMO--it is a complex myriad of many things.  You can read on numerous message boards on the internet, how players built up their bankrolls, turned pro baccarat player and are making lavish livings gambling with huge success everyday.  Be careful, I wish everyone could and I hope you most certainly can.  I do rather well most times gambling and losses are far less than my wins--because  I learned what works for me and how I am governed (most times) inside the casino at the baccarat tables.   

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[Johno-Egalite]

You misunderstand what my point was,

And yes i govern my play and replace my bankroll when i win,  i have explained in detail in my blog.

I only up my levels of play when i win.  Othefs do when they lose and chase.

I don't have any reason to build a larger bankroll.

It was a generalise comment, not necessarily aimed at you 

[alrelax]

Well, here is the continuation from Saturday AM texts with H-money.  Not pretty, be warned.  If you are convinced you can win in the casino and nothing will harm you or cause you to lose and you do not want to face reality---skip this thread! 

And by the way, H-money read a lot of the trash and garbage on the internet prior to even playing bac.  All about wager banker when not sure what to bet and all the published stats and data about outcomes, etc.  All of it.

H-Money is down over $50,000.00 of his own money.  Blood money, not win money.  He keeps playing and playing and playing, dead-set of the mind set he can get all his lost monies back and is not following anything I tell him once he starts to win again--when i am not there.  He can get it back, but not the way he is doing it--not at all.  Just like Friday night when I had to head out to the interstate.  I would have paid him about $1,000.00 to help me over night, but instead he lost $15,400.00.  He actually did win about 5k, but then he goes crazy like 99% + of all players do at the bac table.  Experienced or not, they do.

Here are the texts from H-Money to me while I was out on the interstate blocking off a lane for the heavy equipment, part of my business we do along with the environmental work, etc.  But it was a complicated lane closure on a holiday weekend where the state police are attitude filled, so I had to go and handle that all night.


(When I left to go to the interstate, he called and we talked about the 11th hand being the first F-7.  How the one dealer always gives them to me almost every time and how he can never win with this dealer, etc.  Lately he is starting to blame certain dealers)

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(He did win $5K plus, but he won't stop playing and call it a session, reset and refresh the way I tell him or do any money management, etc., when I am not there)

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(He is just hung up on certain dealers beating him and blames the dealers now.  But he keeps playing and playing and playing and won't stop for 15 or 20 min's.  He is convinced he can win continuously)

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[BillHitchens]

A simple rule - don't play with bad luck dealer, save money.

[alrelax]

REALITY----------------REALITY-------------REALITY

H-Money is well over $70.000.00 down on his savings.  It was not a bank roll.  He used to have a set-aside amount, about $5,000.00 for playing, which in all essence was his bank roll, of sorts.  I say of sorts, because he used to do as I do.  Win and replace and use his win money for other things.  Not, having a $100k + bank roll, gamble all the time, live off of it and increase and plateau level climb and all that stuff.  He used to go to the casino once a week, maybe two times, play reasonable, win and leave and replace the buy in, if lose then when he wins--replace, etc.  But he made far greater money--outside the casino in his own small business.  He saved well over $100k the past years.  He somehow--against everything i ever told him, begged him and taught him--used that money as a bankroll with the idea he would double it or triple it, whatever.  He started to loses I tried to outline within this post from his texts and my witnessing as well.  All for your knowledge and info and alerting you guys to what can and will happen with baccarat, etc.

He used his available funds to gamble with to chase his losses with, while he functioned with the wrong, frame-of-mind.  Simple.  Reality. 

Well he is out of control and I am at wits end.  He will not listen and he still talks about getting back his money and even making money from the casino.  He has convinced himself all he needs to do, is not pay attention to anyone, and just bang it out.  Oh well.

[mb201333]

It has been my experience that the most difficult thing in a casino is to find a way to really and truly reset and clear your mind.  When I am not
at the tables is seems so clear and simple.  Every time I look back and replay in my mind,  I can't believe how easily I let myself be distracted

[alrelax]

It has been my experience that the most difficult thing in a casino is to find a way to really and truly reset and clear your mind.  When I am not
at the tables is seems so clear and simple.  Every time I look back and replay in my mind,  I can't believe how easily I let myself be distracted

You are 100% correct, so few will ever realize or come to terms with.  I finally did about 10 years ago, but refine and define continually and I am close to being the 'near perfect' baccarat player.  (Boy, I know that sounds so obnoxious and so over-confident and extremely wrong, but I have really done it). I think, I have only lost control 2 or 3 times in the past several years out of hundreds and hundreds of live casino sessions. 

The only reason I posted about my buddy, was awareness and maybe it can save one person from going the wrong way, that is---the way 99 out of 100 baccarat players really do go.

[NikeGolf]

Thanks for sharing your experiences and h money's as well.  It's good for everyone to see both sides and learn which one you want to be on.  I hope the best for h money and hopefully regain his focus on his business.  Maybe that will clear his mind and motivate him to improve it as well.  As for myself I have learned a lot over the short amount of time on these forums.  It's been a week since I have played and I am not sure when I will go back but I do want to go there with a clear head. My problem is also getting distracted and I start to bet every hand which seems to be a no no and only profitable on a rare occasion.  I am going to be patient when I play in the future and make an informed decision when placing a bet.  I would always bet the minimum when I wasn't confident in my placement and even at $25 it adds up when you lose.  I used to believe going up $200 was suffice even when my buy in would be $1000.  I'd figured it was better than losing and in some ways that is right but it's not the way to play anymore. 

[alrelax]

Nike,

There is a time to win and a time to stop playing.  As well, there is a time not to go to the casino.  I am talking about playing to win and not social or recreational gambling, etc.

You have to be fully conscious, concentrate and have the correct frame-of-mind, in order to have a fair shot against the shoe beating you. 
IMO and experience, it takes a while to understand all of that and have the proper vision to win, that is--when you can win.

[alrelax]

This is what we plan for H-Money tonight, my buddy the retired NYPD guy, myself and H-Money going to the casino tonight.  Told H-Money he has to listen to us, or we will embarrass him like he never envisioned he agreed.  LOL  Here is a primer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j3_iPskjxk

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On the way with my buddy to go pick up H money his kid wrecked his brand new Honda car last night hit a deer or something we're going to go pick him up and hopefully post some good news here in a few hours.

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2 fortune 7s in our first  4 hands!!  I had 75.00 on each one.  H money said no way and only put 10.00 up.   Will post pics later!!

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Five f7  first shoe!!

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Five f7s first shoe snd 3 the second.  3 of them within 6 hands!  Lol,  H-Money got $15k back!  Will post a few pics later this morning.  can't resize on this tablet so easy. Hit 8 out of 8 in 1.5 shoes....

[alrelax]

I announced I was sitting in Seat 7 because  I wanted some F-7's.  LOL, go ahead and make fun, we had a great few hours there!

First F-7 win after a few hands.  H-Money to my right side, dealer waiting on floor approval for his $400.00 tip for the 2 red chips I had side by side with my table max of $50 on the F-7.  Tips over $100 for the dealer (pay out) have to be approved by the casino GM before they are pushed out for us to throw back in, pain the rear sometimes but I usually throw up 1 to 4 red chips for the dealer on the F-7's. 

There is the first one, hard to take the pics--but I try.

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There is the second F-7 a few hands after the first one with my $45 up on it:

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There is the stack after winning 5 of them and a bunch of Banker key wagers.  Before I started to cash it out.  I loaned someone I know a few thousand and cashed out $6,500.00.  Played with the rest for a while.  Buy-in was the black and a small amount of the green chips.

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First cash out while the cashier calls the pit to verify:

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The we went to my buddies house and I made the sauce from scratch and he made the pasta  and the garlic bread.  No sleep, now I came in early to open the business and open it up for my guys to come in and get some trucks and equipment they needed.  H-Money wound up with a bit over $15k win last night.  If he listens and does not run back every day and learns some patience, to clear his head and play with vision and camaraderie and let me guide him, he has a chance.

If not, he will give it all back again and again. 

The sauce we finally got made around 4 am or so. 

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