Yes, correct. Some will say doesn't matter, but it does to many players, if not for anything else--time to thin--time to reflect--camaraderie alliance or alienation. Although a player cannot change a card, it is the thought process before the driving starts that is the advantage many times. 

Lots to say, answering some PM's and addressing something someone else had posted.

These days there are primarily Midi or Macau Style and Mini baccarat tables.  The difference being, Midi/Macau the players handle the cards.  The Midi table is the successor of the original larger 14 seat/3 dealer baccarat tables where the shoe was placed with the player in seat #1 and then travelled counterclockwise around the table to each player, upon a player making a winning Players hand.  As long as the player made Banker hands, the shoe stayed with the particular player.

Generally, the house got smacked and smacked real hard on long/longer Banker streaks as compared to the Midi table of today. There are still some of the larger tables left at the bigger properties and they are always run with the players dealing the cards or the dealers, thereby making them large Midi tables.

Some players cannot stand the way people handle the cards.  In all essence and for the spirit of the game, most times it is to the players advantage.  If you don't like it and it messes with your thought process, play at the mini tables.  True 100%, no player can change the cards after they are dealt, a dead monkey with strings attached to it, would flip and flop the same cards once dealt. However, at times there are players that will return winning hands the highest majority of times and other players couldn't return a winning hand if the other side had a total of zero showing. Wager with the driver or against, based on how powerful or weak he or she is with the cards. Sounds strange and wacked out to those that never played Big Table or Midi style but it really does  boil down to that for so many.

I have considerably raised my wagers based upon another player's aura-actions and positive results in 'driving' at a Midi or a Big Table.  Under certain circumstances if the dealer was flipping/flopping such as in mini, I might not have wagered the other side, but I most certainly would not have wagered lots of the larger bets I had---when the camaraderie and the person was not doing the 'scene'. 

And there is either camaraderie or alienation here. Yes, a driver does not influence the cards/outcome WHATSOEVER, however and a huge however--the proper driver and the correct aura will influence wagers.  And with the 'music of the street' present, meaning-the sounds and the banter of the floor, the dealer, the pit personnel, the other players, the on-lookers, the cocktail waitress, and everything else around, the correct driver(s) can be an explosive 'pat on the back' and motivator.

And the passion---OMG!  Yes, absolute passion mixed with greed, desire and a bit of anger in most player's cases.  The good times-the bad times, that happen at the baccarat tables around the country, around the world.  For those of you who don't play baccarat or play only on-line, you will not relate or understand what really happens at the live Midi/Big Table baccarat tables anyway. 

The personalities, the actions, the shenanigans, the talk, the banter, the build ups and the let downs.  It's all there on a consistent basis, some nights are abundant with it all and others are lax.  But play on a regular basis and it will prevail. 

When a player that is 'driving' actually plays with his heart and soul and not to put on a 'show' he really does wind up putting on a 3 ring circus most times.  I am sorry to those that don't agree with the statement I just said or if I despised myself, however; I am only relaying this information and what actually happens.  I have tons of history with numerous gaming jurisdictions and I would just have to classify and say that, the Big Table bac days were the absolute best and far in every way--out does what happens with the majority of players and games at Midi tables today.  Mostly for two reasons.  The way so many players wager and believe in the 'cut' and their failure to play both sides, weak and strong.  Also, throw in the disbelief of 'what actually happens or can happen in playing baccarat'. 

There is no end to this thread.  I merely wanted to start something that addresses the game in overall view without the technical aspect of it.  Because in reality, there is a lot more going on than what the shoe produces!

One scenario.  Playing Midi, full table.  It was just chop-chop for numerous hands that followed a section of a few doubles and a couple of singles.  A tie and no Fortune 7's yet.  Around hand 25.  The 2nd shoe into the evening with most.  Last shoe nothing, everyone lost or is about even at best.  Yes, the last shoe and a quarter was pretty much unwinnable.  Meaning, whatever anyone thought or wagered on for whatever reason, it cut to the other side.  Happens at times.  Three Bankers just came out and the player driving wagered table max each time.  First hand everyone was on Players and players had a 6.  The sole player on Banker gets the cards and mumbles, '7 baby--7 baby, I need this please'.  He flops a monkey and says '3 sides'.  He turns the card long ways and starts the peel, real real slow.  The players all on the Players side are getting frustrated, baccarat at its best.  He slows down, puts the cigarette in his mouth and looks at the dealer.  Tell the dealer, 'a hundred for you if you gave me a 7 or an 8'.  He says no dot on it and turns it around.  Now it has been at least 45 seconds if not more.  Everyone is like come on bro let's go.  He starts the peel and then slams the 7 right side up. Now the second hand is coming out and half of the players are on Banker with the same driver and half are stuck in the 'cut' mode of thinking.  Once again the cards for the Player's side totals 0.  Bankers side returns 2.  Players side gets a card and the player driving says it a three line card.  Squeezes the heck out of the one side trying for an 8.  Turns the card and says maybe a 7, could be a six.  The other players are saying, don't matter we will win with a 6.  He flops a 6 after a few seconds.  Dealer slide the driver once again a card for the obnoxious driver.  I had $125.00 on Fortune 7 and the driver had $75.00 and most of the other players on Bankers had something on there and 1 player out of the Players side had a quarter up on the F7 as well.  Once again, the cigarette into his mouth, he looks around the table and says, '2 side-3 side no 8 and we are good huh'?  He takes a quick peek at the side and pops back up, '2 side baby, yes a 2 side--tie or hit the Fortune 7'.  He scoots his chair back and his chest is on the rail of the table.  I stand up and literally scream for a 5 and then say 5 for five thousand.  The floor person comes over.  The dealers at the next table are saying something about the nickel next to mine and the drivers' Fortune 7 wagers.  Says, 'looks like $410.00 if you gave that guy a 5'.  The dealers keep their own tips at this property.  The driver is taking his time and yes, everyone is quite except for me.  Then all of a sudden a female stands up and shouts, 'come the hell on' and mumbles something in Vietnamese that wasn't nice.  The driver stops for a second, looks at the female, looks at me, looks at the dealer, then he reaches across two spots and rubs the card on the number 5 seat number on the felt.  Rubs and rubs. Leaves it face down and tells the dealer, you turn it.  It is a 5.  Fortune 7.  Yes Baby!  Beautiful, absolutely beautiful.  The same driver goes on to make 4 more Bankers after that Fortune 7 hit.  wasn't a long run but a solid 6 and we are all good.  That's baccarat with a driver that can drive.

What so many fail to realize is the power of camaraderie coupled with the influence and the motivating factor of it.  Yes, at times it could work both ways but when it is positive and the table is flowing, it is much easier IMO and for so many I play with, to wager larger and win considerably more than at a mini table.  As I said, the passion-greed-high fiving-large wins-players driving with guts and flopping the cards making it all go our way.  It is the aura mixed in with the knowledge and conscious thought that we wagered on the person rather than the cards that makes this click in ways that are so hard to explain and define. When you see some of the players that really want to wager the opposite side that the great driver or the highest wagering player is not wagering, and then pulls his wager down and says, 'go ahead--I'm going to stay out'.  That is class-real class, no matter if the wager would have won or lost.  It is an unwritten move of sheer respect and class to do that.  Happens all the time.  On the other hand, if there is a person at the table that really feels like he has to wager the other side in that case, he normally would have the dealer flop the cards.  Again, a sign of that unwritten respect for the other players.       

It is a good topic, a love/hate with players. Lots of great times though, lots of great camaraderie.

Quote from: 21 Aces on November 19, 2016, 01:19:21 PM
With a $100 base bet, how are you going to bet the long Bank Dragon shown in this shoe?  BE REALISTIC (Not all in, all in, all in, all in with a magic stop)




Looks like and ideal start would be $100 Bank after the 5-7 as you are positioning for another streak of Bank after one Player.  It would turn out to be very favorable as the Natural 8 win would be less likely to throw off those who look at Natural's continuing or jumping.  Prior to that in the shoe all three Natural 8 Bank's jumped to Player...

Bank 7 --> Bet $100
Bank 8 --> Bet $100  - Total Win $100
Bank 6 --> Bet $200  - Total Win $200  - Very difficult bet because so far 4 in a row max on the shoe
Bank 2 --> Bet $300  - Total Win $400
TIE 7 --> Bet $300  - Total Win $400 - Difficult because TIE's are 1 continue and 1 jump.
Bank 9 --> Bet $300  - Total Win $700
Bank 8 --> Bet $300  - Total Win $1,000
Bank 7 --> Bet $300  - Total Win $1,300
Bank 6 --> Bet $300  - Total Win $1,600

Bank 6 bet loses making the Total Win $1,300.  This was a somewhat conservative increase in position size to 3x the $100 base bet.  How many players do you see do this?   How many players do you see increase more aggressively?

People talk on here about Domination, then they talk about Jay Silvo's thing a m-jig, then they talk about 14 lucky guesses that are skill, etc., etc.  Anyone can take almost any chart or board and make a winning system out of it.  Regarding domination, among a few key triggers I have, I do love the 2nd line wager.  If it is making it---of course.  I have done well with that trigger over the long run.  On the example that 21Aces posted above, I would have made a quick $600.00 wagering $200.00 a time if I started the second line wager since the beginning of the shoe.  I would have lost $1,800.00 and I would have made $2,400.00 if I wagered on to the point that is shown.

There are numerous key triggers to profit but as well---those same key triggers could easily go the opposite way at any time.   

Anyone can develop a program such as this to exploit a given avenue.

It can work, the only problem with it, it cannot work shoe after shoe.  How many shoes or better yet--how many sections of a shoe can it work, 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 10 or none while you are there trying it. 

The same as anything, wagering chop, or doubles, or any certain side based on previous win numbers of the last hands, etc. I witness numbers every week at the casino.  Some shoes will offer you the perfect chance to align yourself say with the following.  Every natural will cut to the other side on the next hand.  Every 3rd card win on a side will then cut to the other side on the next hand.  Every prevailing 6-7-8 or 9 in a side will then cut to the other side the next hand.  Every 3rd repeat on the same side will then fail to produce a 4th and cut to the other side for the next hand.  Then, the same shoe or the next one or 3 or 5 shoes will produce the following.  Every natural will be the first of a couple or several for that same side.  Every 3rd card win on a side will be the first of a couple or several repeats for that side.  Every prevailing 6-7-8 or 9 on a side will be the first of a couple or several for that side.  Every 3rd repeat will be a streak of 4 or 6 or 7 or greater for that side for several times.  OR, a combination of doing each one of those and then doing the exact opposite.  Might do it for 1 time or 8 times in a row or any combination of times within the section or the shoe. 

The game of baccarat within a casino (not the Youtube sales advertisements) have only produced one thing that is 100% going to happen every single shoe, shoe after shoe after shoe after shoe.  That is, 1) A first hand, and 2) A last hand.  As far as patterns/trends, amounts of Bankers Vs. Players, Ties, Fortune 7's, etc., there is no set numbers how or why.

One example.  Fortune 7's.  The other week at a casino, we usually average 1 or 2 F-7's in a most shoes.  At times we have 3.  Other times we frequently see 4 or 5.  We went through 7 complete shoes with not a single Fortune 7.  It happens. 

Get yourself 8 decks of cards and try it.  If you are sold on his Youtube video you have very little or no experience playing this game.

Get yourself educated on the game itself and  learn about chops, doubles, streaks, winning numbers, losing numbers, and the 2 or 3 other dozen factors that either make up trends and patterns or discounts them entirely.

Your best chance IMO is knowing what the game can and will do or will not do.  Then you have a better understanding and how to apply a wagering technique that will possibly prevail within certain sections of a shoe. 

It cannot and will never be solidified in a mechanical system to win with games of chance.  The same as a article of clothing does not take off excessive belly fat by sitting and watching TV eating chips and dip washing it all down with soda.  The same as you cannot but and flip a house without money buy purchasing some course on late night TV without committing fraud and other criminal acts.  The list goes on.  LOL.

Quote from OP:

Alright, we all know what "Anticipation" means, so let's begin by defining "Domination".  Baccarat is an "even chance" game, simply put, banker v. player.  A never-ending choice between the two, banker or player.  But, know this of Baccarat, and, frankly, any "even chance" proposition:  There will be times of Domination.  There will be periods where one side has the better of the two and, therefore, is winning the bulk of the current decisions.  This, my friends, is domination.  And let us be very aware, domination can come in many different forms....streaks, chops, two's....and so forth.
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Exactly, and that is what so many miss, can not see.  The game of bac can be anything and everything combined.  But there are many 'strong' patterns or trends to follow for a few hits, continual--here and there.

Weak, strong, whatever.  They are there.  Just so many, and the highest majority of the players are so blind-sided until each one is well over.  Then the rut-the mess up, those same players tend to compare what happened to what is in their mind supposed to come out.

Play the shoe and STOP trying to change the shoe!

So, this older gentlemen comes over, a once in awhile player of baccarat at this one property.  He is well known and he always shows up and always wagers against everyone when they first start to win.  He will wait for everyone to be on  one side, never ever wagering on anything with anyone else.  He waits and waits and waits.  Never says a word, never.  Always stands, never sits.  Throws out a one hundred dollar bill.  Dealer cuts out all nickels and slides them over to him.  He pulls them down and everyone is on Banker, he places the stack of $100 on Player.  One guy at the end of the table puts a few chips on the Player side also.  He pulls his down.  Dealer deals and it was a natural for the Player and Player wins.  He waits and waits.  Once again, everyone is on the Banker.  He slides his stack of $100 to the Player and the Banker wins, the guy walks away.

About 20 minutes later he reappears.  Another $100 bill buy-in and another stack of red chips.  He waits and waits.  Once again we are all on the Banker and he slides his stack up to the Player.  Although I am typing this 2 days after it occurred, out of the 3 hands this guy wagered, I specifically remember this one.  Player returns a 5 and a 3.  Banker cards flipped, top on exposed was a 5.  One of the guys at the other end of the table who always makes fun of this guy, tells the dealer to wait a second as he stands.  He sticks his arm out towards the cards half way across the table and spins his arm in a circle several times while saying "4"-"4"-"4" numerous times.  Dealer slowly slides the five to the dealer's left.  A 4 is exposed.  The player looks at the older gentleman and shoes him away with his arm.  Comical, like a sitcom!!

Same shoe, about another 10 minuets the gentlemen returns.  Once again, another $100 bill for another buy-in.  The dealer that is present wasn't there earlier but knows him very well.  I could hear him say, 'just wager against the guy' really low.  I look at him and say, twice already.  The dealer says, 'waited till everyone was on one side'?  I said, yeah and lost.  Dealer said, 'always'. A few hands go buy and then we are all on the Player and he slides his stack up to the Banker.  Players win the hand.  He walks away. 

Saturday night 11-19.  Played a shoe that was great.  Started out with the proverbial classic start, Tie-Banker-Player.  One of each! Whatever order of them, it is what I dub the classic start. Then 3 Players, followed by 3 Bankers, followed by 3 Players, followed by 1 Banker, then 3 more Players. Now we go into a few doubles and a single or two. We are sitting at about hand 24-25 or so.  The female I always sit next to was that present last night.  Another gentlemen I have played alongside many many times is down the other end.  He looks at me and points to the Fortune 7.  I will usually be at least a quarter on it, he generally is 2 or 3 nickels on it.  It doesn't come.  I kept up my quarter another couple of times on it.  Then I had 4 nickels and thought to throw it up on the Fortune 7.  Player had returned a 6 and Banker had two monkeys.  We all yelled out for a 7 and sure enough the dealer flopped one over. Then the shoe took a turn and everything was Players.  The shoe was basically pretty well equal in everything, repeats-doubles-singles-positioning of the naturals, etc., etc.  The second Fortune 7 that hit shortly thereafter, the Player had a couple of monkeys and the Banker had blackjack.  Player pulls a 2 and the one person wagering on the Player side is calling verbally out loud for a monkey.  Low class in my book, but whatever.  Dealer flops the 6 for the Fortune 7 win.  I always have said the 7 and the 6 are the winning most Banker 3rd card flops for the Fortune 7.

So, we are playing along and every hand for the Player starts to be a 2 or 3 card 7-8 or 9.  There were 4 Players in a row and then a double tie followed by 3 more Players and a tie.  Darn and I mean WTF! These people are seriously playing for the cut with true and relentless conviction. Player clearly became dominant and stayed there. The aforesaid run of 7 with 3 ties brought the Players light down to the bottom and across to the right 4 squares.  Then 1 Banker came with a natural 9, so most people got all hyped and convinced themselves that Banker would be strong and play catch up.  So they wagered big on the 2nd Banker coming in their minds.  Players once again, down for a solid 4 repeats making a complete closed box upon the board. Then 1 Banker prevailed.  Then right back to Player with another solid 5 to connect once again, a complete box. 

Then a series of  6's and 7's came out, all either 2 cards or 3 cards, didn't matter, out of the next 8 hands or so-probably all but 2 were the 6/7 totals. Every time the Player side prevailed except for 2.

Then 5 Bankers with 2 ties happened in a row.  Everyone was citing how it was now established as a Players shoe and Banker would not make past a double.  The kept up their wagering with the absurd doubling up progression Marty to recoup and get the one small unit profit.  One did, the rest bailed from trying around hand 4.

Banker tried to catch up a bit at the end around hand 60.  So many times, and I mean the upper majority, when it is lop-sided like it was, the deficient side does almost always make a good attempt at gaining some ground before the end.  I guess you can label it more Clustering and Alignment than Regression to the Mean, but as the old saying goes in the is game, play long enough ad you will see everything.   

T-P-B-PPP-BBB-PPP-B-PPP-BB-PP-BBT-P-B-P-B>(F-7)B-PPPPTTPPPT-B-PPPPP-B>(F-7)-PPPPP-BB-PPP-BT-PPP-BBBBTBT-P-BB-PTP-BBBB-P-B.

(I like the horizontal scoring method with the repeating hands going vertical, similar to the way the score boards does it).  I wrote it out and attached it done that way as well.

Summation:

Ties=8
Banker=29
Player=41
F7=2

Caught both Fortune 7's, one for $800.00 and the second one for $1k.  Did fairly well on the rest of the shoe, probably in the neighborhood of $2k plus.  I would estimate I gave back at least $1k of some of the win, wagering against all the Players' like an unintelligent jerk!  Cashed out $2,500.00 win, at the end and played the next shoe with $400.00 from the win and a portion of my original buy-in. Got on a roller-coaster and was about even at the end, maybe down a little, so I called it a night. 

My downfall to really not cleaning house on this shoe, was my disbelief in the shoe producing what it was.  I doubly got smacked on it for not profiting what I should have, cause the Players prevailing hands were constantly high in their groups.  Like I previously said--and I will repeat it--almost every 3rd card was bringing the Players side up to 7-8 or 9.  Almost every time the Banker had an 8, the Player's side would tie or prevail with a 9.  Yes, I always say, play the shoe and don't try to change it.  I did just the latter and tried to make it Banker hands instead of it was doing at the mid-way point.  All I can do is, improve and I will certainly remember this one and when in a similar position of anything like it---I know my efforts will be improved.  Sometimes we all need that slap on the face to get ingrained in the grooves we should be in.     

Friday night 11-18.  Game in progress and grab 1 of the 2 last open seats. There it is, sheer tension at its best.  Couple of the players against another couple of players.  Dealer wants to deal and move along, taps his fingers and keeps asking, 'everyone in-everyone ready'? Then it started, the positioning and the adjusting of wagers dependent on where each has wagered.  Very clear, very much so. Cussing began in Viet and Laotian, so after a few more hands I got up and left.  Not good. Called it a night.

On Fortune 7's I am usually $25/$50 on a local level at on property that only has a $50 max on it.  No panda there.  At the other property they have a $1k limit on those bets.  I am anywhere from $25 to $150 on them.  In a neighboring state they have a $25 max on those, I am anywhere from $15 to the $25 on them and they do have Panda.

I was playing with a guy that had $800 up on Fortune 7 and got a $32k payback when it did hit.  He normally never wagers it, maybe 1 or 2 times out of a few shoes. 

In Vegas if they have it, I might wager a bit more on them. 

I play entirely different in Vegas/AC or Florida then my local property on a weekly basis.  I never think of it as a percentage thou. 

Absolutely anything can prevail with a large enough bankroll in baccarat and enough time playing.  LOL.

Some (some) of the best wins are completely haphazard without any rhyme or reason or similar.

To harp on what I have seen the majority of times over the years is the following:

When there are mainly/with great dominance the 1's and 2's and then the first 3 or even the second 3 repeat comes out, watch out!  That is the 6 and 8 and 10 and more streaks.  Yes, yes, it could happen at anytime, but just more so on a regular basis then when the shoe is weak.

Somehow when I was on the way home last night after the casino, I had this urge for some chili dogs with jalapeños.  Guess it was probably due to seeing that show 'Carnival Food' the other night.  I wanted to make it myself and must say, they turned out pretty darn good! 

This was posted within my Blog section on November 8th.  Someone PM'd me and asked about this guy I call, 'Mr. Wonderful'.  Here is a bit more about him, sure there are many around with the same aura as him!
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The other night I was at one of the local casinos.  There was a few of us at the baccarat table playing.  Ups and downs.  Got on a real nice run of 6 Bankers followed by 6 Players with some ties, then the doubles came out, 2 by 2 by 2 by 2 about 5 or 6 times.  Then the chop started, a good 9 or 10 squares of alternating chops.  Finally, all of us together with some great camaraderie.  We kept humiliating each other into wagering more saying stuff like, 'if you chicken--go home', etc.  Shoe about 1/3rd over. 

Here comes one of the regulars.  Let me describe him for you so you can get a better understanding. He truly believe he can out think the shoe.  Wins a few times and walks away, but the highest majority of the time, he will get wiped and then go to the ATM or cage and get more of his available funds.  Most of the time, in fact the highest majority of the times, he will just lose the additional buy in.  Even if he wins and wins good, somehow his mind convinces him he can 'smack' the casino and he is an advantaged player, he truly believes it---very easy to see his aura and put that together with his words.

He flaunts his Rolex watch (fake or not, a clear flaunt), impresses some around here in the Midwest I guess but so comical.  His throws out a few words here and there in some kind of British accent from England-Scotland or perhaps the Wales, like he is a scholar or something, LOL.  Throws out political statements every once in awhile without many paying attention to him, when he looks at the dealer and kind of inquires why he or she doesn't answer him, they all just shrug their shoulders.  Usually, like clockwork when he losses on his progressions after his routine downfall with his bankroll, the regular, 'bloody this poo-poo American casino' or else it is, 'you yanks are so under educated you can't even tell if it is daylight outside'. 

Most of the players don't even pay attention to him.  Once in a while someone will engage in the banter with him and he will go off into some long drawn out dialog about his country versus America.  Anyway, he is playing and as I said, we are all in the grove and quadrupled or five folded our buy-ins easily.  He starts in and mumbles how he knows the cut is coming.  The shoe was producing those alternating chop-chop B-P-B-P-B-P-B-P, etc., that few can flow with to prevail on their wagers.  However, we were all doing it and winning.  He goes, "the streaks are ready to come back".  I look at the others and we give each other that smirky smile and we are all in agreement to follow the shoe and ignore 'Mr. Know It All'.

It was just a Player so we are all up on Banker and one of the women playing says, 'Fortune Time'.  Our friend with the British accent is mumbling something about 'bloody unintelligent yanks wasting their money', etc., etc.  I throw up a quarter on the Fortune and every one else has either a few nickels or a quarter or two on the Fortune, except Mr. Wonderful.  Player returns two monkeys and Banker has a two card 3.  Mr. Wonderful, lets go with a loud 8 or 9.  Player gets a 4.  All the other players are shouting to the dealer for one more 4.  Must of been said about 20 times in the short order by the other players, asking for a 4.  Mr. Wonderful is calling for a monkey repeatedly with vengeance in fact!  The dealer flips a 4.  Fantastic.   

The game moves on.  All chops and then a bunch of 1's and 2's until the end of the shoe.  Mr. Wonderful is kind of quite.  Next shoe is readied and Mr.. Wonderful let's go with his typical garbage mouth and more bad mouthing.  One of the girls playing stands up and squares off on him.  Basically told him to leave if he doesn't like playing there and calls him a cue-ball jerk off that is hated by most everyone in the place.   

He doesn't say anything, just acts like he is concentrating on playing.  The game moves on.  We are all wagering against Mr. Wonderful and we are winning like 7 or 8 wagers out of every 10 hands.  At one point he notices we are wagering against him.  Says something but it was lower than a mumble, guess his energy level was dropping once again.  He wagers on one side and we all throw up our wagers on the other side.  He slides his wager over to the side we are on and we all pull our wagers down.  He looks at us and says very clearly, "so you all are wagering against me, huh"?  Someone said, "absolutely cause you can't win the way you play there pal".  He snickers out loud and then the dealer flops over a natural for the side he was originally on and blackjack for the side he switched to.  We all broke out laughing and the girl that squared off on him actually fell out of her chair and busted out in a long drawn out laugh. I just took a sip of my coffee and when I saw the natural on the side he was on, part of that sip came up and out of my nose.  Seriously, I couldn't believe it and broke out into laughter myself.   Classic, best thing I seen for a long time!!!  He goes bust and asks the dealer to save his seat as he walks away.  The dealer doesn't and another player walks up and takes the seat.  About 5 minuets later he returns.  Squares off on the dealer and says he wants his seat back.  Dealer refers him to the floor person.  The floor person tells him, sorry it was not reserved.  The game continued without obnoxious Mr. Wonderful.

After he walked away, the floor person came over and told us, "if you guys keep this up, we will have to charge you an entertainment charge".  LOL.   

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on November 14, 2016, 02:07:29 AM
I think some people misunderstand the word "trigger" with the cutting streaks strategy, thinking that every streak must be cut. It would be too simple...

Itlr some streaks are more likely to be short than long because the asymmetrical factor favors the opposite side. Everytime the as factor doesn't act (all due to actual card distribution) or, worse yet, it did act but the results were mathematically "wrong", we are playing a perfect unguessable 50/50 game.

Thus, imo, along with the actual outcomes we'll have to register the mathematical conditions by which one side should be favored or not.

It takes some time to do the job, yet baccarat players want to guess right and withing short betting intervals.
And whenever they were wrong they want to be right on the very subsequent hands. 
A sure recipe for disaster I have experienced many many times.

as.

   You hit the nail on the head with the ....."subsequent hands"........

And every streak will not cut.  True so many do....and as well....so many don't.

I personally really like the trigger when the shoe is producing stronger clumping than when all of a sudden a 3 repeat comes from out of no where in a longer series of 1's and 2's.