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Dozen Repeater III

Started by ignatus, December 29, 2014, 05:46:44 PM

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ignatus

This is nothing new, it's one of my old system, but with a new progression. Works very well. (both on RNG and Live)...

it's a single dozen bet.

trigger: wait for one dozen to repeat -bet for a third repeat once, then STOP

progression +1/-1, +1u for each loss, -1u for each win. Reset when reach a new high


fist test, played with 25u bets

ignatus

more spins (continued)...

ignatus

5u bets...

BetJack

Hello little rookie Questions
How much Bank should have  for a 1 chip bet?
How big bets (units) do you make  in these big drops ...
When do you decide that the bet has become too high???
and stop playing... accept the loss
and announce the " session lost"

P.s. 
Only once I played a negative progression and it was terrible ...
I lost everything ... what a surprise and now I'm afraid ...

ignatus

Was along time since i played this one, thelaw reminded me. thx

(played with 5u bets)

Rolletti

Would love to have RX Code for that, should not be to hard to code it.
Anybody skilled please ???

Thx
R.

mogul397

Quote from: ignatus on December 29, 2014, 05:46:44 PM
This is nothing new, it's one of my old system, but with a new progression. Works very well. (both on RNG and Live)...

it's a single dozen bet.

trigger: wait for one dozen to repeat -bet for a third repeat once, then STOP

progression +1/-1, +1u for each loss, -1u for each win. Reset when reach a new high


fist test, played with 25u bets

How far up the betting progression ladder is typical for you?

spartakookie

I have tested this bet selection n MM against the results (american roulette) that wizard of odds gave out before. I tested till 20k spins now and did not bust yet if using 20th stage progression (210units). The return rate is around 3.5% of the bankroll per hour using rapid roulette (45 spins per hour).  :P

mogul397

Can you be more specific on drawdowns, or what constitutes
a bust?

Thanks for running tests. In my own simple tests, once in a while it seems to
"get away" from you and I have observed some fairly long streaks where
all you got were the 2 in a row.  Do you have any data on how long the losing
streaks were?

It seems funny, but I feel road blocks with this method, but everyone seems to like
it and do well.

I just finished a jaunt with the "grass roots" method, playing 2 dozen. And lost.
It is interesting because what you are looking for with this method is to select the
single dozen (2-1 and less likely). When I saw my grass roots data, and finding it
was not that difficult to get 3 losses, it occurs to me that I am actually picking
3 single dozen in a row. And that somehow that methodology was good at doing that.

Anyway, just some single dozen thoughts. Looking forward to your comments about
the rest.


mogul397

I just opened my zumma book to page 228. And I looked at columbs.
Should be no difference?

It was the  8th set of double dozens that hit 3 in a row. That's a lot
to chase with a D'alenbert.

There was an idea I had, which I still hang onto for paradigms like this where
there are two sides, where I say to bet the last thing happening. Weather it's
EC, or dozens.  So I would have continued to bet the two other dozen on
page 228 till I lost (A 1-2 bet) . and change to the triple (which is a 2-1 bet).

TheLaw

This progression is pretty aggressive..........other more conservative progs might work better in the long-run.

ozon

Someone with the RX would have to check how  behaves in the long run so aggressive progression, with reset after new high and stop limit of -210 units.
I think that it will not be the winner, in long run, but who knows.
We have seen on the graph, that Martngale for5  numbers  supposedly brings profit.
Mayby this progression can also give you some profit.

mogul397

There is another layer of defense required. An intermediate stop loss?

One thing that is pretty cool is that as you walk up the ladder, you make your
loss up in one bet (as opposed to equal wins and losses on EC.


1   -1     +2 win
2   -3     +3 win
3   -6     +3 win
4   -10    +2 win
5   -15    0 (even) win.

Stop betting after so many losses and wait for a virtual win.
Or maybe spread out the bets. 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5.

Either way it's pretty good. But I still see a lot of just double
dozens so playing flat on the other two dozen is good.

No hard testing. Soft testing.  But it is attractive.


TheLaw

My first concern is.......it's too simple. If this worked long-term, then someone would be playing it.

Having said that, the charts are impressive over thousands of spins.

It looks like a 500 unit dd would be safe given these charts, so maybe each game is to +500/-500 units........attempting to win 2 of 3 games.

mogul397

Somebody MIGH be playing it. Like Ignatius...

The problem that I have is I don't see the drawdowns that I experienced
in actual testing.  Don't really happen that often, but you see them.

Like I said, maybe some protection. I've seen NAthan say "3 losses in a row and we're out".
That kind of methodology.

When trading online the idea is to have a stop loss and let your profits run.