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Started by AsymBacGuy, October 03, 2017, 10:59:52 PM

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AsymBacGuy

A randomly picked up shoe:

PPB, PBP, BBB, PBB, PBP, PPB, BPP, BBB, BPB, BPP, BPP, PBB, PPP, PPB, PPP, BPP, BPB, PPB, PPP, PPB, BBP, PPB, PPP, BPB, PB.

PPB - - -
PBP - + +
BBB + + -
PBB - + -
PBP - + +
PPB - - -
BPP + - +
BBB + + -
BPB + - -
BPP + - +
BPP + - +
PBB - + -
PPP - - +
PPB - - -
PPP - - +
BPP + - +
BPB + - -
PPB - - -
PPP - - +
PPB - - -
BBP + + +
PPB - - -
PPP - - +
BPB + - -
PB - +

- - - - + + + + - - + -  - + + - - - + - + + - + - + - - - + - - - - - + - - - - - + - - - + + + - - - - - + + - - - +

as.

 

Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)

Baelog

Tougher shoe. Still following random flow.

PPB
PBP
BBB
PBB L
PBP W
PPB
BPP
BBB
BPB L
BPP W
BPP
PBB
PPP
PPB L
PPP W
BPP
BPB L
PPB
PPP L
PPB W
BBP
PPB
PPP L
BPB
PB   L

Baelog *The lost Viking*

AsymBacGuy

Yep there's still the LW pattern to follow...

What's your selection?



Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)

Baelog

Playing against the 8 unique patterns in a row. After a win start over.
Baelog *The lost Viking*

alrelax

Quote from: Baelog on October 16, 2017, 02:51:08 AM
Playing against the 8 unique patterns in a row. After a win start over.

I might be misunderstanding?  A player can always choose to play against events that happened or yet to happen, however--IMO, playing like that consistently will pretty much sink you and drain your bank roll faster than most other things.  The key word there is, 'consistently'
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Played well over 35,957 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
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alrelax

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on October 16, 2017, 12:04:47 AM


But the more we are mechanically playing a scheme trying to adapt to the expected and worse will be the probabilities to catch the actual flow of the game.

as.


Another key phrase and key area for players to research, try and get an advantage from. 

I have written about this area and I call it, "Shoe Presentments".

Leave all the statistics and all the history aside, clear your mind, clear your vision, forget the past, forget the previous sessions wins as well as losses, reset and refresh yourself.  Those things have helped me tremendously. 
My Blog within BetSelection Board: https://betselection.cc/index.php?board=250.0

Played well over 35,957 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
Administrator & Forum Board Owner  of  BetSelection.cc
EMAIL: Betselectionboard@Gmail.Com

bacply

On the betting progression, you say 1 2 4.  Why not 1-2 -1 -2 if losing, then 1-2-4 if winning.  Just a thought.
John

alrelax

Quote from: bacply on October 16, 2017, 05:35:40 PM
On the betting progression, you say 1 2 4.  Why not 1-2 -1 -2 if losing, then 1-2-4 if winning.  Just a thought.
John

Not sounding rude or wise, but whatever you are most comfortable with.

For myself, I have found 1-3-2-6 gives myself the most comfort.  I also do flat bet and parlay once or twice, no matter if winning or losing.  I seldom go past those (2 times) consecutively, unless I am into a '1 + 4 Side Parlay wager', but that for myself, is normally coinciding with another wager anyway. 
My Blog within BetSelection Board: https://betselection.cc/index.php?board=250.0

Played well over 35,957 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
Administrator & Forum Board Owner  of  BetSelection.cc
EMAIL: Betselectionboard@Gmail.Com

AsymBacGuy

This is how the BBP mechanical scheme fares on the last shoe presented:

- - - - + + + + - - + -  - + + - - - + - + + - + - + - - - + - - - - - + - - - - - + - - - + + + - - - - - + + - - - +

We see that in distribution terms we'll have: (R=runs or streaks and S=single)

R R R S R R R S S R S S S S R S R S R S R R R R R

With this "trick" we have restricted the amount of decisions from 74 hands to just 25.

If we want to restrict further the decisions we may choose to simply bet toward a streak of R or S one time and toward a single apparition of R or S.

Now we have: streak (RRR), single (S), streak (RRR), streak (SS), single, streak, single, single, single, single, single, single, streak.
That is a mere amount of 13 decisions.

Going even deeply and reasoning with the same streak/single principle, we could think the shoe as:
single (one streak), single (one single), streak (two streaks), single (one single), single (one streak), streak (many singles). That is just 6 decisions.

The "asym" concentration effect will transform this shoe in a pattern of just 6 decisions. 
I mean that every single shoe will form one of the possible 64 dispositions of any mix of 6 decisions. 

Of course not every shoe will produce exactly 6 decisions but almost surely it will form at least 5-6 multilayered singles and streaks patterns having a given probability to appear.

It's now that we could discover some long term propensities of the game without spending a lot of money and at the same time reducing at most the variance.   

Back to the random flow of the actual shoe.

As Al correctly pointed out, any single shoe presents "turning points", spots where some previous patterns stop to exist giving place to other numerous patterns difficult to be chased.
If we are whimsically adopting a multi pattern strategy (dominating sides, singles, doubles, streaks, etc) directed to bet a lot of hands we are destined to fall in the realm of uncertainty even though in the shortest terms we could have the best of it.

But here we are playing a concentrate (or better a concentrate of the concentrate) of a mechanical strategy, meaning that we can only decide when a given single/streak pattern should come out or not.

as.
Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)

AsymBacGuy

Here's the second shoe presented:

R R S R R R S S R R S S R S R R R R R S S S S R S R R S R S S S R S R S S S S R S

that is

R S R R R R S S R R S S R S S R S S S R S

finally

S S R R R R S R S R S

as.

Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)

AsymBacGuy

A huge B shifted shoe:

BBB
PBP
PBB
BPB
BBP
PPB
BBB
PBP
PPB
BPB
PBB
PBP
BPB
PBB
PBB
BBP
BBB
BBB
BBB
BPB
PBB
BPB
BPP
P

+ + - - + + - + - + + + - - - + + - - + + - - - + - - - + - - + + + - + - + - - + - + + + + + - + + - + + - + - - - + - + - - + - + -

R R R S S S R R R R R R S R S R R S S S S R S S R S R S R S S R S S S R S S S

secondly

R R R S S S R R S R S S S S S R S R S R

finally

R R R S S R S S S S

as.
Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)

alrelax

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on October 16, 2017, 10:30:12 PM
This is how the BBP mechanical scheme fares on the last shoe presented:


As Al correctly pointed out, any single shoe presents "turning points", spots where some previous patterns stop to exist giving place to other numerous patterns difficult to be chased.
If we are whimsically adopting a multi pattern strategy (dominating sides, singles, doubles, streaks, etc) directed to bet a lot of hands we are destined to fall in the realm of uncertainty even though in the shortest terms we could have the best of it.

as.

Once I discovered what I define as, "Sections and Turning Points", I drastically increased my advantages if (and only if) my mind was clear and my vision unfocused on certain events and all that as I have written about regarding this.

If you can open you mind and unclutter it from your past wins and losses and how those incurred, you will be better off.  Easier said than done!
My Blog within BetSelection Board: https://betselection.cc/index.php?board=250.0

Played well over 35,957 shoes of baccarat since I started playing at B&M USA casinos.

THE PURPOSE OF GAMING IS TO WIN!

"Don't say it's a winning hand until you are getting paid for it".

Played numerous properties in Las Vegas, Reno, Southern California, Atlantic City, Connecticut, South Florida, The South/Southeast as well as most areas of The Midwest.

Baccarat, actually a mixture of Watergate, attacking the Gotti Family and the famous ear biting Tyson fight leading to disqualification and a near riot.  Bac has all that & more.
 
Administrator & Forum Board Owner  of  BetSelection.cc
EMAIL: Betselectionboard@Gmail.Com

AsymBacGuy

A fair P shifted shoe:

PBP
BPP
BPB
PPB
PPP
PBP
BBP
PBP
PPP
BPB
BBP
BPP
BPP
PPB
BBP
BPB
PPP
PPP
PPP
PBP
BPP
PPP
PPB
BBP

- + + + - + + - - - - - - - + - + + + + + - + + - - + + - - + + + + - + + - + - - - + + + + - - - - + - - + - - + - + + + - + - - + - + - + + +

S R S R R S S R S R R R R R S R S S R R R S R S R S S R S S R S S S S R

second

S S S R R S S R S S R R S S S S R S R

finally

R R R S R R R S S

as.


Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)

AsymBacGuy

Quote from: alrelax on October 16, 2017, 10:53:43 PM
Once I discovered what I define as, "Sections and Turning Points", I drastically increased my advantages if (and only if) my mind was clear and my vision unfocused on certain events and all that as I have written about regarding this.

If you can open you mind and unclutter it from your past wins and losses and how those incurred, you will be better off.  Easier said than done!

Yes, a clear mind drastically helps players. Unfortunately the gambling environment and human emotions turn the logic section off from the brain.


as.




Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)

AsymBacGuy

After having concentrated at different degrees any single shoe in R and S signs, we have to consider the long term impact (consecutive shoes) acting over our strategy.

If we want to consider shoes only as succession of six initial third degree R/S patterns, we'll know that per every shoe dealt there will be 64 possible patterns, equally probable.

And, for example, if no one shoe will show an all R or S streak pattern we know that a 6-step progression cannot lose.
Taken by another way of thinking, we could say that a R or S sign will surely appear in a 6-hand succession.

Unfortunately this cannot be accomplished 100% of the times, otherwise the game would be easily beaten itlr.

Therefore we should study the probability of success when a R or S event should be more likely to appear in some portion of the shoe, that is the exact positions where R or S should come out more often than not.

Now we have a linear (horizontal) R/S succession and a "vertical" (shoe after shoe) R/S succession.

Since we're mechanically concentring outcomes at deep degrees, in a sense we're betting that at least two shoes in a row won't produce the exact situation previously happened. At best we are betting that the losing 1/64 expected ratio will be lower than that (1/66, 1/70, etc).

As sayed, we may bet horizontally (linear shoe successions) or vertically (exact position studied per many shoes).

After having tested millions of shoes I can say that the probability to cross both horizontally and vertically exact R/S situations and no R or S situations appearing on two consecutive shoes is zero if at least 6 R/S patterns were produced.

This means that by using this subdivision, the probability to get an unfavourable 12 hand situation on two consecutive shoes is zero. (of course it can't be zero for the law of probability).

Yes, from a practical point of view nobody is going to risk 4096 units to win just one unit (12-step progression) and anyway it can't be done knowing the min-max limits allowed at bac tables.

Hence we might decide to only bet the Banker hands dictating a given winning hand, meaning we're throwing off any situation where a possible winning hand should be placed on Player side.

Now our strategic plan is multilayered concentrated: first as any single shoe will be seen at our eyes as a simple 6-hand R/S pattern; secondly knowing that the situations when a Player hand would get us a profit will be slightly lower than the expected counterpart; third, that an ever equaling factor is going to act no matter what.

Long winning streaks are just a temporary finding most players are looking for.
Imo we better take as target the situations when a due outcome must come out within an acceptable interval of time.

as.
Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)