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Title: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on February 28, 2017, 06:18:31 AM
Hello.
I will now tell you how to win the ECs.
No clues , no nothing. Just the way.

Make 4 different tables on your paper .
Each table must have the runs and changes of the ECs.
every event must be compared with the LAST EC.
So 4 events = 5 last ECs.
Do NOT , I repeat do NOT care about HOW MUCH the deviations are.... care ONLY about HOW MANY the deviations are.
When you have 2 or more deviations bet for balance.
If you have 3 and 1 = 2 so bet
if you have 2 and 1=1 so do NOT bet
If you have 2 and 2= 0 so do NOT bet.

The reason why this wins is because 1 deviation can go as much as it wants.
BUT a lot of deviation events can not happen at the same time.

Remember that the LAST EC  must be compared with ALL the 4 events.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on February 28, 2017, 12:39:30 PM
Make comparisons .
the last R/B with the 2nd.
the last R/B with the 3d
Etc...

Make a graph to watch immediately the deviations.
align the bets (if its possible) in order to correct the majority of the deviations in every spin.
Be careful cause if the bets are opposite they are canceling each other.
If you are smart you must get it by now.

One or 2 events can grow a lot and can be unpredictable... BUT 3 or more events can t grow at the same time...
Bet on HOW MANY and not on HOW MUCH.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 01, 2017, 02:46:07 AM
I don t really understand why post an example when I have already explained all the way of playing.
Can t you do your own examples in paper?
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 01, 2017, 09:44:33 AM
alrelax if the full explanation of my method seemed to you like what you posted then roulette is not a game for you.
well at least I mean you are not ment to make money from this game.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 01, 2017, 10:09:12 AM
It s not magic , it s not voodoo. Its just common sense .
1 or 2 events can start deviation a lot ... but 3 or 4 can t at the same time.
So bet for the HOW MANY and not for HOW MUCH.
Now in order to do this you must track 4 or more events(4 if my personal choice ) that ALL are linked with the last spin.
So that in every NEW spin all the 4 events to be updated.
Be carefull the ZERO is also an event ...
So watch all those events and how their deviations go... Then find the linearity of those events with the last spin and IF you can bet to the 1 selection ( RED or BLACK for example) for the most deviations to be fixed , then bet .
If you can't in this particular spin have the linearity then do NOT bet.
This method is like a predator you bet only when the opportunity apears... on average is 50% bet spins so its not boring , its playable.
I am making a steady income with my method for 2 years now by playing only the RB in land based Casinos.
I play with 25 euro chips I am making +5 and go home.
+5 is NOT a hit and run... it s just not to spend all my day in the casino. Sometimes in just 5 bets I am +5, sometimes it needs more.Its FLAT betting only.
With 15 chips BR you can t lose... its my BR. Although I never droped more of 11 chips( and that was a rare occasion)
For all the ECs I would need a program as tracking 4X3=12 events is impossible.

So I created the method myself... I never saw in any forum an approach like mine ( 4 or more events to be linked with the the last spin).
So IMO you should be thankfull that I exposed my method.
A person that is clever can understand exactly how I play just by reading my posts.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 01, 2017, 10:20:46 AM
This method can be adapted to Dozens and Columns too.
But a program is needed for tracking all the bets.
I would love to have a tool like that!
A lot of betting opportunities and more cash in less time.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 01, 2017, 12:46:32 PM
well done 6th.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 01, 2017, 01:20:02 PM
How can this only only on R/B? Is R/B somehow magical and the rest of the ECs are not?
read my posts and you will have your answer .
Although from your question I don t think you have understood...
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 02, 2017, 02:39:59 AM
It seems impossible to me that no one understood the method.
Ok let s see...

Let s just take for example ( this is what you are asking... examples) only EVENT no1.
EVENT no1 is comparison of the last 2 spins(R/B).

We have R R  this is a RUN (because from R it went to R again)
So we have

EVENT NO1
   R    C
   X

The next spin is R R (B) ... so we have to update the chart so it will be

EVENT NO1
  R   C
  X   X     ( We are puting X under the R(Run) or the C(Change)

next spin is R R  B (R)

EVENT NO1

  R  C
  X  X
      X

So until now we have 1 RUN and 2 CHANGES by comparing in every new spin the last 2 outcomes.

when we have RR=RUN  when we have BB=RUN when we have RB or BR = CHANGE.

Now this was ONLY the EVENT NO1

add 3 more events of the R/B.(Read my previous posts)
That all of them are being updating with the new spin...

And then make the deviations correction when the bet selection on either RED or BLACK will correct most of them.

I really don t believe that I had to make examples in order to be understood.
My previous posts had explained everything in detail.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 02, 2017, 06:42:09 AM
""and do you also use a progression? ""

You do not read my posts... yet you want to learn my method. How can this be done?
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 02, 2017, 07:53:23 AM
You asked if I am using a progression.
BUT in one of my posts I say clearly that I bet FLAT.
So do you see now why you can t get it?
Simply because you do not read what I say.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 02, 2017, 08:28:26 AM
No
Reread my posts
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 03, 2017, 03:45:45 AM
The reason why this betting selection wins is because of the LINEARITY .
Linearity of random events and betting for the majority of the balance is the key in winning.

As I stated before we can have 1 or 2 events growing bad making imbalance but its rare to have more than 2 events growing at the same time...

Let me give you an example.

lets say we have 4 different wheels and the 3 of them have 10 REDS and 3 BLACKS.The 4th wheel has the reds and blacks balanced.
Now lets say we are betting in all the 3 wheels BLACK ( for the balance to come).

The 1 of the 3 can produce again RED(so we lose)
The 2nd can produce again RED (so we lose)
IF the 3d will produce BLACK(our bet) then we are winning in ALL 3 wheels no matter that the 2 wheels produced RED.

this is where the power comes...

We are betting with an advantage that was not known till now... this advantage is called Linearity.

How this concept came into my mind?
After testing thousands of flat bet selections I reallised that after some wins then the loss was coming for sure... so even if a bet selection was winning like hell(Deviating) ... after a while the opposite selection was coming and was always bringing the loss of the bank roll rapidly!
The more winning , the more rapid loss.
The loss was coming always because the balance had to come...

yes but how do we know WHEN the balance will come? we don t ... we just know that it will come...
So this is how the arise of the Linearity came into my mind.

Most of the times the RB is well balanced... but there are occasions that they are making big deviations...
So we can t trust any single event ALONE....
But we can trust a lot of events at the SAME TIME(Linearity) ....
In order to lose we mus have 3-4 events all deviating badly and consistent at the same time.
This is hard... it happens but it doesn t last long... then the balance is coming and all the losing bets become winning ones.


Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 03, 2017, 06:08:43 AM
when you will understand how to play it then you will understand the example I gave.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 03, 2017, 06:27:00 AM
There is nothing to be figured out...
The hole method is posted in my posts .
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 03, 2017, 09:22:22 AM
If you can understand EVENT no 1 then you can understand the rest of the events.
Read my posts all the instructions are there.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 03, 2017, 10:09:03 AM
How can I answer this , when I don t even know HOW you decided to mark those Xs in the 3 events?
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 03, 2017, 10:10:41 AM
"""It gets more clear, but you never told to bet 3 or 4 wheels till a few posts ago."""

LoL !
I never said that.... this is your wrong understanding.
I just gave an example to show the power of the bet selection.
If I would track 4 wheels , then I wouldn t have an advantage .

These 4 IMAGINARY wheels are happening in the ONE wheel you play.

I really don t know if I have to laugh or cry with your understanding.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 03, 2017, 10:19:36 AM
it s not my fault.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 03, 2017, 01:55:45 PM
Only ozon and Atlantis are correct.
All the others are mistaken.

You know sometimes I am thinking of starting to write what your mistakes are... but then I am thinking that I have already posted everything in my posts... so its no use saying the same things all over again.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 03, 2017, 03:13:37 PM
Crow you have understood the way of tracking...
Did you realize now that ALL the info you needed was already posted crystal clear???

You have to ADD in each spin the new Xs on the events.
Then you will have a GRAPH (on your paper) with 4 events and Xs on their RUNS and CHANGES
I put Xs because the eyes are understanding fast the imbalances .
every event that had 2 or more (runs or changes is being qualified .
If an event is pointing to bet on RED for balance and one other event is pointing in BLACK , then they are canceling each other so we have 0 value ( because 1-1=0).
In order to bet you must have a value of 2 or more...
This rule is made because as I stated a lot of times what we care in order to gain the advantage is for the MOST events to be corrected (balanced) in every spin.

Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 04, 2017, 07:31:02 AM
there was never a decipher matter .
All the instructions of how to play the method was already posted in my posts.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 04, 2017, 10:52:08 AM
its voodoo for the people that can not grasp the LINEARITY on the bets.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 04, 2017, 11:00:39 AM
event no 1 has 2 or less RUNS ... so we need RUN
event no 2 has 2 or less CHANGES ... so we need CHANGE
event no 3 has 2 or less CHANGES...so we need CHANGE
event no 4 doesn t have 2 or less of runs or changes(they are ballanced) so the 4th event is NOT qualified.

This leaves as with the qualifies events 1,2 and 3.

the event no 1 leads to the last spin (1st spin)
the event no 2 leads to the penultimate spin(2nd spin)
the event no 3 leads to the 3d spin

Till now all in here thought Earth is flat ... now you start realizing that the Earth round.

we are looking at the 1st(last spin) and its RED... it needs a RUN so it's a RED bet
we are looking at the 2nd spin and it a BLACK... it needs a CHANGE so it's a RED bet
we are looking at the 3d spin and it's a BLACK ... its needs a CHANGE so it's a RED bet

ALL 3 qualified events need RED ... so this is a betting TRIGGER... because we are having at least 3 bets pointing in the same color.

Understood now how the linearity comes?

The Earth is not flat as you think... but its round.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 04, 2017, 11:12:30 AM
Atlantis is 100% correct.
Members with brains are obvious ... members with no brains are obvious too.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 04, 2017, 11:27:49 AM
Well done Atlantis.
Now you see how easy I am winning in my Casinos visits.

As long as you follow the rules all your sessions will be +.

Bringing the balance of the majority of 4 events with linearity betting is the key in winning in roulette and baccarat .
1 or 2 events can deviate a lot .... but 3 or 4 events can not deviate at the same time for long.
As the balance is coming even in the 1 of the 4 events we are winning.


There are rare occasions that 1 event has deviate a lot!
keep an eye on this event and when the linearity comes with the other bets... your winning advantage is higher.
In these situations I am betting 2 chips instead of 1.
Especially in these situations the winning rate is very big.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 04, 2017, 02:14:10 PM
hehehe.
Do you see Atlantis now how annoying is to give everything crystal clear and none understands?
I would never post examples because if a person can t get it from the crystal clear explanation of rules... then the examples will not help.
I am satisfied though that some people like you and 6th and ozon understood it.

I never posted a pazzle or clues.
I just posted the full explanation.

I gave the how you track
I gave the how you bet
I gave all the rules
I also gave the why it wins

The clever ones got it. For the rest I really don t care.
I am happy you are also winning 6th sense
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 04, 2017, 02:42:52 PM
well done motivated... I am glad more and more clever ones are popping out of no where and are making money with MY method.
Don t worry I can never take negative comments in my hart , because my full wallet knows better.

Do not ... I repeat do not use progressions.... progressions are for losers and gamblers .
Play always FLAT and ONLY if a BIG opportunity appears bet with 2 chips on them and only them.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 04, 2017, 03:06:55 PM
Well done.
When you will track a lot of spins you will start realizing WHY those imbalances are happening ;)
its because now I taught you how to look DEEPER into randomness and not flat as you all used to do.
Now you will not be surprised of WHY a lot of reds or blacks hits... its because the deeper (past events) are making the balance.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 04, 2017, 03:38:02 PM
Some of you that understood my method should have the question :
Why tracking 4 events and not more?

I have tried to track 6 events too ...
The results were the same ... the trigger there was at least 4 events to point in the same bet.
With 4 events we need at least 3 events  to point in the same bet.
So its the same... as long as the events are pointing in the majority of correction the power doesn t change.

You could track 8 events... there you should have at least 5 events pointing in the same bet.Same power again...

So why track more than 4?  more tracking without any additional advantage.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 04, 2017, 06:07:07 PM
I have already explained everything multiple times in detail.
I can t bother anymore.
If the members that understood it want to help you then let them be my guest.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 05, 2017, 01:26:47 PM
I keep laughing when I see the word "puzzle" in this thread.
I never posted any puzzles , I posted the full method.
4 members have understood the method and are sending me Pms telling me 3 things.

1) I am making easy chips with your method thank you.
2) I have never seen any other method like this in my life thank you.
2)I can t understand why the other members don t get it when you have posted all the info and rules of your method several times.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: moglizu on March 05, 2017, 02:02:38 PM
The members that understood my method are all gaining chips.
They are advising me to delete the thread for the method to be protected.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: alrelax on July 28, 2018, 02:35:06 PM
Replaced in General Discussion by request, Glen.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: audionut on July 29, 2018, 05:21:59 AM
Because I guess I'm SO STUPID... :scared: can someone be kind enough to post, say, 10 or 20 decisions charted and how you bet it??? Not sure if one event is the last 5 decisions or if it's each X or what the hey... and we're looking at 4 imaginary wheels on 1 wheel? WTF??? And I guess if you have, say, 3 reds in a row then we are betting for black to "catch up"??

Thanks for your patience with this slow learner  :(
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: Sputnik on July 29, 2018, 10:33:51 AM

moglizy I believe that you can flat betting and you find a method.
But I had difficult to understand your method.

Cheers
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: TheMagician on July 29, 2018, 06:38:37 PM
What is the Hubbub about "Dr." Moogies method?  Reading his thread where he used this snatched method to berate honest members that just tried to understand his immensely bad English, I couldn't stop smiling at this troll. I 've encountered his type many many times and they are all the same. Vanity-mench suffering bipolarity with an inferiority complex (probably since childhood) is but the best word to describe him.

What he presented (he is gone now I believe) is basically kindergarten stuff and very much not invented by him. Roulette has been around since 1655.  Do you really believe this bet selection pattern hasn�t been done before? Well, it has, and in ways, way more sophisticated.

Here is one. I made a simple tracker, not even closely comparable to the really advanced VR technology and used this tracker 7 sessions against an auto roulette of good standing.

I used Flat betting and used progression only when I stepped up a level on the unit size for the next session, provided I had won a certain amount of units on the previous ones.

The tracker used this "counterpoint" bet selection (yes that is what its called) to analyze three ECs.  Red Black, Low High, Odd-Even SIMULTANEOUSLY ;)

As you see in the attached image from today's game against the auto-roulette (which had a nice 35 second Bet window between spins), 35 Units were gained without a sweat. Implementing a simple zero warning enabled me to not lose bets at those few events the zero showed up. After the zero, I used a counterpoint event calculation by comparing against the number before the zero.

The most tricky event patterns were RRRC  and CCCR. Usually you bet the dominating factor, but when the super important Variance Graphs dived below Moving Average line and an EC started to show losses, I took the latest R or C as guiding bet on the latest numbers EC selections.

7 sessions generated 176 units in a days play and as u see initially BR was increased 2700% with the help of the session progressions of unit size.

The "+" and "-" were there as a notation for the tracker in order to get the variance graphs to get going so I could determine the direction of win loss probability.

That is all. You can do a similar tracker and the counterpoint method is very simple to apply on an excel and use against an online casino with a good REAL wheel and not the CGI crappola offered to many gamblers.


(http://i64.tinypic.com/32zi5vc.jpg)
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: audionut on July 29, 2018, 06:54:31 PM
OK I understand a little better now re-reading posts...BUT...the Magician says you bet the DOMINATING choice (so if you have BBBBR, you would bet B), while the original system says you bet the R (because it's due to catch up/form equilibrium)... so which is it???

BTW..if your betting the LEAST occurring, it seems to me the weakness with this is LONG stretches of one decision in a row (which happens quite often), like 12 R in a row...??? :nod:
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: TheMagician on July 29, 2018, 07:41:52 PM
Quote from: audionut on July 29, 2018, 06:54:31 PM
OK I understand a little better now re-reading posts...BUT...the Magician says you bet the DOMINATING choice (so if you have BBBBR, you would bet B), while the original system says you bet the R (because it's due to catch up/form equilibrium)... so which is it???



I never said BBBBR audionut (so what's your fave speakers btw?)

One has to apply a variance graph into the game in order to make certain bet decisions on tricky counter-point patterns. Counterpoint means seeking to balance one point with its counterpart (harmonically interdependent).

Say we use these events,  CCCR (not BBBR as you wrote). Normally I bet Change (C) and not Run (R). But if the bet selection variance shows that my selections have been losses beneath a certain point (Moving Average Line) I either abstain bet, or bet Run(R).

Of course, you have combinations like these CRCC where I bet Change contra the latest spin. or here, RCRR I bet Run (R) with the latest spun number in terms of color and so on...

The balance our dear Moogie spoke of is ridiculous to mention as he probably referred to the Strong and Weak Law of Large Numbers (which I doubt he even comprehends remotely).  That law basically sais that the results from a large number of spins ( and I speak of really large), will tend to be close to the expected value and even closer the more trials are made.

There is a specific formula for this which I cannot post here as the fonts cannot accept the Mathematical symbols for said equation, but you can read more here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers

Striving to bet for short run "balances" are only found in Moogies head which I doubt has ever used anything but elementary math for any given problem. His reckless use of the word "Linearity" and the true meaning of said concept is also a sure sign of his ignorance and mere attempt to look "smart". Trust me, that guy is as far from smart as our Galaxy is from the original Big Bang singularity point.

As you might see, btw, in the previous image where I posted a session, you can see in the middle graph (and to its left) I played a 78% win rate on High Low bets (you can see the wins in the blue column to the far left). That is quite awesome when it comes to ECs and especially means flat betting is all u need to kill it here ;)
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: audionut on July 30, 2018, 01:47:30 AM
OK...thanks for the clarification, Magician... appreciate it! ;)

BTW...favorite speakers? So many, I have favored Electrostatics and Planar for many years (owned Apogee Acoustics and Quad 2905's) but now I own Legacy Focus SE's.... simply amazing  :)
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: TheMagician on July 30, 2018, 06:38:57 AM
Quote from: audionut on July 30, 2018, 01:47:30 AM
OK...thanks for the clarification, Magician... appreciate it! ;)

but now I own Legacy Focus SE's.... simply amazing  :)

Legacy Focus, huh? That some bad mothers. You must feel you have the orchestra, or band,  right in front of you.  :cheer:
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: TheMagician on July 30, 2018, 03:57:03 PM
On another note concerning this "system". Personally I am finding it quite useless in the long run. It is not a high earner, especially not used online. I can understand little Moogies contentment with +5 units when using it in a landbased casino as it is very tedious.

There are far better things out there, and the golden rule in roulette for those who try to make a good chunk of money on it, never play ECs on the long run, in any form. You are for sure guaranteed to go bust.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: jsintl on June 24, 2020, 01:45:26 PM
Hello!

This is an old thread which I found very interesting.

I would like to ask members who are playing this method with success with your comments.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: algojack on September 14, 2020, 11:52:07 AM
When Victor had his Patreon site a few years ago one of the free downloads was a detailed example of how to play the system, which I've attached. I haven't actually got around to playing it yet, but it's on my to-do list of systems to code, or write a tracker for.
Title: Re: The way to beat the ECs
Post by: roversi13 on September 15, 2020, 07:20:06 AM
Moglizu.you are arrogant and not smart.
Your explanation is ridicolous, confused and not clear at all