This method looks good to conduct long term study . progression analysis would be interesting.

QuoteAuthor   Topic: A method with teeth
   kj smooth   Posted: 04-Sep-10 20:14   
   
I know some will play this and I'll never hear a word from them, I accept that. Some might even rip the method AND still play it. lol This is flat betting. I use units of $15, $10 and $5 but use whatever fits your budget the best. I try and separate fact from opinion. A fact is, in 'X' number of spins, we will get a complete street hit, all 3 numbers. I do have to thank Bayes ahead of time, he helped me a bit.

Ok, on to the method >> I keep track of the last *12* numbers hit. When the next number hits, cross off the latest number, we will always be looking at the LAST 12. Any street with TWO of the numbers hit, is what we are looking for. Example: the 14 and 15 are hit within the 12 recorded. We flat bet the 13 UNTIL either a win OR until either the 14 or 15 is NOT within the 12 recorded anymore. I have done lots of testing recording the last 11, 10, 13 and 14 spins, I have found that *12* works the best. Anytime all 3 (a win) are within the 12, no more betting on that number UNTIL it drops back to two within the street.

EXAMPLE: We were betting on the 13, it hits and we have a win. Lets say a couple spins later, the 14 drops from the last 12 recorded. We NOW have the 13 and 15 hit so we bet on the 14 until either a win OR until either the 13 or 15 is NOT within 12 recorded anymore. Don't make this tougher than it is. Sometimes I over explain stuff. lol There are some spins where NO betting will take place. Now, what about multiple bets going on? This is what I do in terms of betting. 1-2 bets: I bet $15 per number, 3 bets: I bet $10 per number, 4+ bets: I bet $5 per number. It is very rare to have 4+ within 12 but you MUST have a RULE for every situation.

My BR is 3K but use what you can afford. No progression here, that should make a few happy. Its VERY common for a street to hit within a short (12) period of time. What I like about this most, we are NOT betting on semi-cold streets. My win goal is 1K, then go home. Any questions, just ask. Thanks for reading. Ken

http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=8755&forum=Roulette_Message_Board

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AMRemember one very important thing regarding progressions. They seek specific spots or ratio or order to win. None of them can handle all variety that can come. If you keep getting wins in your sweet spots, you win the game otherwise the same havenly progression will kill your money.

This fact is quite important to be understood:  money management is not a silver bullet to beat everything.

Quote from: Albalaha on July 13, 2017, 03:16:49 AM
Playing EC bets on European roulette or "Player" in baccarat are my only choice of betselection. Although inside betting still gives me goosebumps and manageble, any EC bet with least house edge is the way to go.

Interesting decision to return to EC bets.  When going back to the former bets it means there was learned wisdom . which is worth more because you no longer have the bug to try other betting paths but it is by conviction based on experience now. nothing can replace this so congratulations.

are you talking about using visual ballistics to decide which number sector is not going to come out?  This possibility crossed my mind as the only visual ballistics for someone not seasoned like me.  by discarding a small area of two numbers you could have one viable system based on physics.  interesting possibility.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on July 12, 2017, 03:47:11 PM
However, if you find it attractive idea then try winning by predicting which very few numbers are not going to show any time soon rather than the opposite.

alrelax, you look like a smart person . the answer is quite simple: if it is sold, it does not work.  if it works, it is not sold. Nobody certifies the goose that laid the golden eggs to sell it for money to buy but the gold is used directly to acquire what you want.

There is no single published system that works because every functioning system is not published.  These sellers have always existed, they have only changed products:

before:



now:

Quote from: alrelax on July 12, 2017, 01:24:55 PM
With all the millionaire expert authors that would instantly become billionaire authors, why only the following:

"Kyle T. from NYC says.........."

"George P. from Boondocks, Kansas says.............."

"Lori Y. from Detroit, Mich says........................"

"Johnny L. from S.F., CA says......................"

Etc., etc., etc.  If I was an author of a 'real' system that actually worked and was honestly what I discovered and wrote about, I would have an auditing company do a real audit and study with actual certification that can be verified, etc.  The same as they do for technical and other books and publications were studies and references and results are used as supporting documentation for the product you are selling, the system--the book.

Quote from: titantts on July 10, 2017, 07:37:06 PM
I post this just because I can win at Baccarat Table for sure

those who can win for sure do not bother to help . they simply do it and remain silent.

Quote from: titantts on July 10, 2017, 07:37:06 PM
hope someone interested help me help you

if you really do not mind sharing your secret the best way is to publish how to win to help the most people around the world at a time .  our baccarat section: http://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/ your winning way is welcome.

Link to google:

https://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:gamblersbookcase.com+filetype:pdf

Quote from: Babu on June 26, 2017, 07:05:22 PMHow much would a pure mechanical system that can net 20 unit (4%) daily be worth?

Quote from: Babu on June 27, 2017, 12:28:14 AMI don't think a 4% win is worth infinite amount.

Apply a compound interest formula at 4% daily and you will tell me how much you would be willing to pay for it . you should be the one who tries to convince about the mathematical reality that 4% daily can in fact make a fortune, not me.

I have an idea for proper price: infinite.  Come on. it is to ask how much can an infinite money generator be worth.  if it is sold, it does not work. if it works, it is not sold: the system itself is used to withdraw money continuously . In my experience there is no mechanical system winning 100% of the days . If you have it do as PickABetDotNet did:

QuoteStill going strong..website down, I'd rather play and make money.. good luck folks, cheers

http://betselection.cc/sports-betting-forum/t6768/msg56753/#msg56753

interesting. well I guess in the end we are the group that has supported over time.  this is also not the first time I pledge. I have taken a capture image of your quoted post to see if there is any edit later. By the way I was able to read the initial post in its entirety, and the poll in question.

Well, in the end casino is an acquired vice for those who decide to stay. all there is to have is a good time. we are stranded with the group I guess.

As for leaving one does not go " tap dancing to the door " but just grab the suitcases and leaves. when you can not stand any more then not even the luggage. whoever wants to go away from one place goes out even naked if necessary. so I never take polls asking to leave  in forums seriously .  I just see them as this: "Should I hang myself?? Options: () maybe yes / () maybe not / () maybe later / () kindly give reasons not to do it please" ...

With respect to the poll:

"Should Alrelax Stay on the Board or Leave?

Yes, by all means stay and continue
No, please do not use for you "

this far I have found it a valid poll. I lost it to the third option of clinical brew-ha-ha, not you, Chimp stuff.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:betselection.cc/alrelax%27s-blog/time-to-vote!!!-please-the-board-needs-your-vote!/

To each his own I suppose. now I would better play my new system for a while: quads that make +1 with respect to the previous cycle. I may publish it to vary the tone of the forum

Quote from: greenguy on June 23, 2017, 04:59:40 AM
Yes, in the past I too have pledged money to Victor's forums. I even set up a continuous monthly payment through paypal for an extended period and only stopped it when he sold the forum to Steve. In total it would be much more than you too combined, although I never ASKED for thanks or recognition.
The quote above is not what I posted. One of Victor's mods, or he himself changed my post to this, which in itself is unacceptable.

The reason I started this thread is because alrelax created a poll (for whatever reason) to see if he was popular enough to stay.
I voted in the negative which is my right to do so, I also gave my reason. He then removed my posted reason and replaced my words with something entirely different. That is an abuse of moderator privileges, which should not be tolerated. He's been doing this sh*t for years, and it's the main reason why I don't like him. Well that and to some extent his racist admissions.

So you see I can't post any response anywhere in a thread controlled by alrelax because he will either delete it or change it to suit his own ends. And then  he complains about me starting threads about him. but it is the only recourse available as he is a tyrant within his own threads.

He then removed the votes, followed shortly by the whole poll thread. It's ridiculous, and very telling of his true character.

Quote from: greenguy on June 23, 2017, 05:01:15 AM
Who cares, mate?

I care because I felt like a real i.diot to think that I had committed to the date that alrelax himself said and there is the possibility that he did not give his pledge by the first week of April so after I would have taken the hassle to do it by that date and he wouldn't have it  seemed disgusting especially after saying what I said in the post. I had not thought of it until now.

Quote from: greenguy on June 23, 2017, 05:01:15 AMThat goes for you too, wannawin.

I have had a love-hate relationship with this community. I have been separated by events that I did not want to support and then I returned after things calmed down, also after I calmed down myself to the point that I do not care anymore about the fact that previously bothered me. . maybe the time has come time for this formula to be applied by many other forum members..

Quote from: alrelax on June 23, 2017, 04:41:49 AM
I have donated in the past prior to this and I sent my pledge. OK?

Thank you for confirming this. if we all compromised this is how it should be.  A while ago I felt foolish to think that I would follow you if you had not given your pledge by that first week of April because I took the trouble to do it by that date under your own recommendation.  I started to think about it after my greenguy post and the more I thought about the possibility the more I disliked it. thanks for making it clear.

Another question and I want an honest answer. Are you a global moderator of the forum? there is no indication that it is so because it says: "alrelax

     Hero Member "

if so then does it mean that there are other hero members who have the possibility to edit the posts of all the other members? under the previous moderation model global moderators could only delete posts but never mess with the content of the messages of others. in my opinion it is as it should be: simply hide from public view and give a chance to defend yourself.  many posts were restored after a second chance of rebuttal.  To edit post content is not correct in my opinion: all the post being published in full or nothing.

I wrote this today: http://betselection.cc/general-discussion/alrelax-and-his-petty-poll/msg57211/#msg57211

and I feel entitled to speak because I was one of several members who committed to support and I supported with my money by the first week of April as alrelax himself said: http://betselection.cc/general-discussion/pledges-to-betselection-cc/

after defending alrelax from greenguy today I started to think that I can not assure that he gave it. the pledge carries a part of honor so I am 100% sure that I gave my part but although it would be despicable not to have fulfilled the pledge it is within the possible.

Please confirm to the forum that alrelax fulfilled his pledge to be able to speak properly and to defend him again knowing that I will not end up like a fool putting my hands in the fire for him without having all the facts.

because we made the compromise in public so we put our honor in the same line the confirmation must be public too. any of the other members who committed themselves can also confirm if you want.  there should be no problem because we made a very public commitment and not a private business or coverup.

In any case for speaking clearly if he did not honor his part after three months it is simply that he does not want to help the forum which would be disgusting . or else if he does not have funds to afford $ 50 USD after these several months then all claims of moving money at the casinos and so on crash. which also reminds me that I suspect tabone smells suspicious as a big bettor author. well let's hope that alrelax does not disappoint. thanks.

Quote from: warrior on June 21, 2017, 08:26:43 PM
Well here s one beat the outside bets and the inside will be easy. 

Please comment more about it.  it would be really refreshing to focus more on the game and less on the people . please give the example: what do you have in mind when saying this? perhaps intersections using the outer bets to point to the internal single numbers?  example: intersection of column 3, dozen 2 = 15 18 21 24 ? thank you.

Quote from: greenguy on June 22, 2017, 11:04:55 AM
He should be banned plain and simple. That is my opinion.

In my opinion: Alrelax is a productive member of the community . he publishes frequently and is a very consistent member.  he gives signs of being an active player which is more than most posters in the forums.

if we put aside all the bickering and focus on the game alrelax publishes many common sense things about the game itself.

He even gave $ 50 USD the first week of April before sponsors which shows that he is committed to the forum. I myself gave only $ 10 USD and the rest of members gave $ 0 USD thus most gave nothing.  So alrelax puts his wallet where his mouth is which is a good indication if we want to measure the quality of his personal commitment here.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on June 18, 2017, 12:02:17 AM
Why don't you wonder why the roulette numbers are 37 instead of a round number like 30 or 50??

Perhaps for the same reason they add 0, 00, 000 ... instead of # 37, # 38, # 39 because 36 numbers give exact divisions of varied forms that are useful without residues or numbers out. 36 is divided in a balanced way.  it seems to me that such is all that entails this reasoning. there are no numbers of the beast nor pacts with underworld entities.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on June 18, 2017, 12:02:17 AM
Or even the reason why they have the obscure arrangement around the wheel which is not the arithmetical order such as on the table 1,2,3...etc
Why don't you wonder?
Something for you to ponter.

It seems to me that it is to prevent physical wheel patterns from being easily recognized by the average player .  patterns like ball jump every 5 spaces would be recognized by arithmetical order with ease . Or when the same sector of the wheel is hit repeatedly people would notice that it is stuck on neighbours if all that comes out are number values close to each other.  Or maybe they would determine the signature of the croupier with a greater ability so adding a layer of more clutter helps to divert the attention away from the physical cylinder towards the numbers as in the draw of another lottery.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on June 18, 2017, 12:02:17 AMI believe the balance between risk and reward is the optimum, in other words:
more numbers = higher win rate, less profit and more loss
less numbers = lower win rate, more profit and less loss
Usually few are the numbers which appear more than average and those numbers don't belong to the same table group.
Which means that by betting table groups you would carry dead weight along with 1 or 2 numbers which are overperforming.

Interesting consideration about dead weight by inactive numbers. it is very true that a quad with two active numbers and two cold numbers carries a statistical load on its back. it is never known how much longer it will take for a number to stop being asleep . at least the recent number is known to have the possibility to come out more times than the average. this can make the statistical basis for people who play what is coming out while avoiding the cold groups.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on June 18, 2017, 12:02:17 AMAbout qualities of bet selections is the tricky part, it's easy to say that those 6 numbers are above average after 74 spins, but are they going to remain like this and for how long??

Just a hint for your perusal: think in proportions, think analogies...! 

Betting sleepers is to throw money by betting that it will reverse the trend.  as they pay when the number goes out and it loses on the ones that do not come out then if the sleeper trend continues it will continue without payment. big mistake because this is a game that has a vein to go to the extremes . I agree it is better to seek to be benefited by positive ends above average rather than throwing more money waiting for a negative end to be reversed.  in my humble opinion.