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Quote from: Lung Yeh on October 29, 2016, 02:23:44 AM
Against 1 going to 2 and then 2 going to 3.

After that bet that 4 will go to 5.

What about 3 going to 4? Any bets to make here?

I don't think the approach bets against the 1st going to 2 in a row.
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AsymBacGuy

Quote from: Lung Yeh on October 29, 2016, 02:23:44 AM
Against 1 going to 2 and then 2 going to 3.

After that bet that 4 will go to 5.

What about 3 going to 4? Any bets to make here?

Singles are the vast majority of total outcomes followed by doubles and so forth.

I mean that after a decent amount of outcomes registered, singles cannot be very far from their slight above 50% expected predominance on either sides, expecially on one side.

The same about doubles and triples and so on.

Of course we can get 20 or more consecutive streaks followed by a single or few singles and another string of streaks or a 20 string of doubles or triples with no counterparts. So what?

The main mistake playing baccarat is trying and forcing to get expected results over a restricted amount of samples.

The more we play the higher will be the probability to get an expected ratio of outcomes, up to the point where the probability to get two or more shoes not containing a couple of singles or doubles on either side is zero.

Moreover, expected outcomes which went silent for long time must be classified in their forms of appearance and according to their probability to form.

We can bet to get a further deviation of some outcomes produced or we can bet to get an expected balancement after a given deviation had occurred.

We shouldn't find ourselves in the position to guess or to hope for, just bet accordingly to the long term expectancy.

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alrelax

Quote from: AsymBacGuy on October 31, 2016, 12:23:11 AM




The main mistake playing baccarat is trying and forcing to get expected results over a restricted amount of samples.


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Absolutely 1,000%!!
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Quote from: Lung Yeh on October 29, 2016, 02:23:44 AM
Against 1 going to 2 and then 2 going to 3.

After that bet that 4 will go to 5.

What about 3 going to 4? Any bets to make here?

you're wrong and are giving bad advice. if you want pb strategy read my post above.

alrelax

Quote from: marinetech on October 29, 2016, 02:13:43 AM
simple.

he bet against 2 in a row for a unit. if that loses he bet 2 units against 3 in a row. If that loses, he would now bet 4 units that the 4 in a row goes to "5". If that loses, he restarted. Stop loss was 8-10 units per shoe.

You can use any progression. Keep it simple. Find a casino with toteboards. You can see if a majority of the shoes are streaking or staying under 3-4 in a row...

good luck....

You never said what 'he' did when/if it was 4 after 'he' might have lost the 3rd/repeat one?? 
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alrelax

If you are saying to wager on the second/repeat to cut, as well as the third, as well as he fourth, and then wager that there will be the 5th repeating, etc., this is absurd!

You lose on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and then hope for a 5th.

When 5 or more is really rarer than 3's and 4's by far!!!

OMG, I played 2 shoes last night on a random stop at a casino and there were plenty of 4's, at least 4 lines going down of 4's and there was only 1 of 5 or more.  Personally, if you have a 8-10 unit/chip stop loss---you better have some great luck real early on.......

Plenty of 1', 2's and 3's as always.  No order.  I would say equally as many 2's and 3's as 1's.  Which is probably the largest factor by far to make the 'system' a disaster to follow. 
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21 Aces

Topic: Still think Pit Bosses one of the best
http://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/still-think-pit-bosses-one-of-the-best/msg32664/#msg32664

UPDATE:

Certain segments of a shoe may tend to 1's, 2's, 3's, or more.  Tendencies can be split by Bank/ Player as well.  There was a shoe last night that went Player 2 max except once with a 3 at the start of the shoe.  Will this tell you anything about the next shoe?  Most likely, no.  But for that shoe it was the trend...
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marinetech

Quote from: alrelax on November 01, 2016, 03:11:17 PM
If you are saying to wager on the second/repeat to cut, as well as the third, as well as he fourth, and then wager that there will be the 5th repeating, etc., this is absurd!

You lose on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and then hope for a 5th.

When 5 or more is really rarer than 3's and 4's by far!!!

OMG, I played 2 shoes last night on a random stop at a casino and there were plenty of 4's, at least 4 lines going down of 4's and there was only 1 of 5 or more.  Personally, if you have a 8-10 unit/chip stop loss---you better have some great luck real early on.......

Plenty of 1', 2's and 3's as always.  No order.  I would say equally as many 2's and 3's as 1's.  Which is probably the largest factor by far to make the 'system' a disaster to follow.

Correct, 4's kill you. Pick your poison, 1's, 2's, 3's, etc. Something has to kill you.....His choice is 4's.

marinetech




When there is a 4 showing, he bets it goes to 5. If that wins, he keeps on betting 1 unit until that breaks and waits for the next 2 in a row and resumes how I outlines he plays. If the 4 stops at 4, his out 7 units. His stop loss for the shoe was like 8 or maybe 10, I cannot remember. His stop win was 6-8 I think. Obviously, if a 4 pops out first, your in trouble! Otherwise, you can be up and down.....

I usually bet 100 then 200 then 400. or 200-300-600. I have won 10-15 units many times before 1/2-3/4 of the shoe is done. Usually at hand 50 or 55, if I haven't seen a 4, im done! But that's me......

soxfan

The pitboss style ain't bad. But, like any anti-streak play ya can get clipped pretty bad in the short e
term, hey hey.

AsymBacGuy

No matter what is our preferred strategy, we ought to remember without any sort of doubt that unlikely events will come out either in relatively long clusters or more likely in zero or single apparitions.

The main mistake we players do is trying to get the most likely results whenever long series of unlikely situations will arise, expecially if we consider the game splitted into single "one night" sessions where we want to be ahead at all costs or broke even after a huge loss no matter what.

As marinetech acutely pointed out, any strategy has a "poison": some poisons are worse than others (for example hoping to get long P streaks vs long B streaks) but itlr almost every strategy will broke even before the tax.

There are no "terrible 2s", actually 2s are one of the best outcomes to set up a strategy by.

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21 Aces

I think 'Terrible 2's' comes from parent's experience with 2 year old's.  This is probably how the Steelers named their fan's towels.

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AsymBacGuy

Quote from: 21 Aces on November 03, 2016, 12:52:04 AM
I think 'Terrible 2's' comes from parent's experience with 2 year old's.  This is probably how the Steelers named their fan's towels.


Lol. Exactly.

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Baccarat is 99% skill and 1% luck

CLEAR EYES, FULL HEARTS. CAN'T LOSE
(Friday Night Lights TV series)

I NEVER LOSE.
I EITHER WIN OR LEARN
(Nelson Mandela)

Winners don't do different things, they do things differently (Albalaha)