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Title: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 07:32:01 AM
I have reset the session and start fresh playing one split, using no special way but the order on the table to chose the numbers.


Start with 0#1 for 45 spins and plus 40.  Set the win target to new high.


9, 8,25, 6,33, 9, 2,18,19, 7, 2,20, 4,13,32,31,23,17,26,30,25, 2,30,33,22, 1,21,14,33,19, 6,19, 9,26, 9,31, 5,13,16, 1, 8,27,20, 1,
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 07:42:33 AM
This play is on the split 0#2, running  33 spins and 48 plus.


24, 5,20,19, 7,10, 4, 8, 0,23,34,24,22,26,21,11,33,36,36, 3,23,30,20,17,25,13,29, 6,15, 0,20,17, 2,


Two splits played and Total is 88 cent.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Albalaha on December 30, 2012, 08:49:27 AM
are u going to automate in  your bot? It is a true random versus random.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 08:52:53 AM
The split 0#3  went up to  16 unit a bet,  343 spins and a plus of  196.[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 08:56:37 AM
Quote from: albalaha on December 30, 2012, 08:49:27 AM
are u going to automate in your bot? It is a true random versus random.


I am not sure if I understand the question. I play on BVZ wheel, which I think is true random outcome. The split is just in order from 0 to 36 one at the time. (Which is many splits, I do not yet know if I play to the end).
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Albalaha on December 30, 2012, 08:59:02 AM
I mean, are u going to put it this as a system to play and switch automatically from one split to another?
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 09:02:56 AM
Played split  1#2  for three spins, 17 plus.


Total 299.[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 09:05:58 AM
Quote from: albalaha on December 30, 2012, 08:59:02 AM
I mean, are u going to put it this as a system to play and switch automatically from one split to another?


It would be possible, but not yet any done in that direction.  The current split method let you chose any split, and if you want that random it is not hard to find a way to do that.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 09:10:46 AM
The split 2#3 for four spins. 14 plus.





Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 09:17:36 AM
Split 1#4 for  8 spins. Plus 10.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Albalaha on December 30, 2012, 09:24:19 AM
You are very lucky, Ralph.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 09:49:20 AM
2#5 for 107 spins. Plus 24.


Total 347.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 10:32:10 AM
3#6 for  204 spins. Plus  109.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 10:36:26 AM
Split  4#5 for two spins. Plus 16.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 12:13:04 PM
Split of 5#6 for  8 spin, plus 10.


Total  482
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 12:29:14 PM
Split 4#7 at  77 spins. Plus 43.


Total  813 spins and 525 cent plus.

Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 12:32:51 PM
Split  5#8 at  2 spins, plus 16.



Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 12:47:37 PM
Split 6#9 for  75 spins, plus 84.


Total 625 cent.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 12:57:40 PM
Split 7#8 at  44 spins. Plus 7.


Total: 632.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 01:11:25 PM
Split 8#9 for 2 spins. Plus 16.   The first nine numbers and there are many possible splits.


Total: 648.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 01:16:52 PM
Split  7#10 for 11 spins. Plus 41.


Total 689 cent.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 01:21:54 PM
Split  8#11 at  8 spins. 10 plus.


Total 699.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 01:25:51 PM
Split 5#12 for 6 spins. Plus 12.


Total  711.



Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Bally6354 on December 30, 2012, 01:29:18 PM
Dear Ralph, I think it's only fair to warn you that I just saw the following on betvoyager!!


[attachimg=1]


Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 01:30:20 PM
Split  10#11 at  4 spins. Plus  14.


Total: 725
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 01:32:40 PM
Quote from: Bally6354 on December 30, 2012, 01:29:18 PM
Dear Ralph, I think it's only fair to warn you that I just saw the following on betvoyager!!


[attachimg=1]


I can live with that, as long it is "Wanted" and not "Not Wanted"!
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Bally6354 on December 30, 2012, 01:35:38 PM
Quote from: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 01:32:40 PM

I can live with that, as long it is "Wanted" and not "Not Wanted"!

:))  Nice one!
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 02:01:43 PM
Split  11#12 for 136 spins. Plus 34.


Total: 759


Now 1108 spins done.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 02:10:14 PM
Next split was 10#13 at 6 spins. Plus 12.


Total: 771.



Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: soggett on December 30, 2012, 02:22:02 PM
Nice, keep up the good work Ralph :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 02:23:10 PM
Split 11#14 at 28 spins. Plus 12.


Total :783.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 02:40:34 PM
Split 12#15 for 63 spins (could be pressed a bit more)   Plus 9.


Total:  854
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 02:54:47 PM
Split 13#14 for 68 spins. Plus 87.


Total: 941.  Passed 1200 spins.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 03:09:32 PM
Split 14#15 at 75 spins. Plus 31.


Total: 972.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 03:26:27 PM
Split 13#16 for 86 spins. Plus 55.


Total:   1027
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 03:31:50 PM
Split 14#17 for 12 spins. Plus 42.


Total: 1069
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 04:30:50 PM
A harder run, split 15#18 at 305 spins. Plus 84.


Total: 1153
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 04:40:48 PM
Split 16#17 for 16 spins. Plus 38.


Total: 1191
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 04:57:22 PM
17#18 for 48 spins. Plus 52.


Total  1243
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 05:13:26 PM
Still a lot of splits left. This is 16#19 running 46 spins. plus  69.


Total : 1312.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
Split 17#20 went long and scary. Downdrow about the total previous winnings. Got connection problems so I do not have the exactly numbers of spins, about 600 I think.  Plus  153.


Total: 1465.


Up to over 2400 spins.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 07:35:57 PM
Split 18#21 at  55 (?  set the win targhet wrong) spins. Plus 183.


Total: 1648.



Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 07:48:21 PM
Split  19#20, 34 spins. plus 36.


Total:  1684


Over 2500 spins.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 07:58:39 PM
Split  20#21 for 41 spins, plus 36.


Total: 1720.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 08:05:51 PM
There is many ways to bet on a split, this is 19#22 for 22 spins. Plus 32.


Total: 1752.



Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 08:15:59 PM
Split 20#23 for 38 spins, plus 42.


Total: 1794.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 08:27:58 PM
Split 21#24, 40 spins, plus 43.


Total: 1834.







Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 08:37:32 PM
Split  22#23 for 24 spins. Plus 30.




Total: 1867.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 30, 2012, 08:51:18 PM
Hey, Mr. Ralph!

Are you putting in a win goal or a stop-spin number?  Or are you just quitting when you're ahead?

Must try this as soon as the wife will let me use her computer.  (7)

Sam
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 08:51:44 PM
Split 23#24 (2/3 of all possible splits is played. Never before thougth there are  so many).  76 spins and 73 plus.




Total: 1940.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 08:54:42 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 30, 2012, 08:51:18 PM
Hey, Mr. Ralph!

Are you putting in a win goal or a stop-spin number?  Or are you just quitting when you're ahead?

Must try this as soon as the wife will let me use her computer.  (7)

Sam


Sam!


I had the win goal at 50 at first, but put it down to 30 later.  I have been down far only once, about the previous win, I could however recover. All up to now have going plus. I use the bot and the script for one split.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 09:05:16 PM
Split  22#25 for 114 spins, and plus 38.




Total:  1978.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 10:07:07 PM
Split 23#26  a hard run, went down and up, the stake reach 100 (mistakes done in setting) units and went down at most 1200 units.


And I did not saw I sometimes used 0.1 and  0.5 instead of 0.01.



295 spins and the whole  909 plus.


Total: 2887.


I think I continue tomorrow as I am tired, and easy do misstakes.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 30, 2012, 10:24:51 PM
We all make misstakes!  Oops, Mistakes!!  LOL

Get some rest, Pal!

Sam
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Bally6354 on December 30, 2012, 10:29:58 PM
Great work Ralph!

Imagine a run like that in a casino with $5 chips!

Nearly 15k  :o

Norman Leigh and his team could have done just as well playing this way!
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 30, 2012, 11:31:54 PM
Quote from: Bally6354 on December 30, 2012, 10:29:58 PM
Great work Ralph!

Imagine a run like that in a casino with $5 chips!

Nearly 15k  :o

Norman Leigh and his team could have done just as well playing this way!


I have done such play before using higher stakes and succeeded. I nowdays avoid it as a large win, you should not pay back.
2012 was a good year!!
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 11:29:46 AM
Continue the play using split 24#27.  53 spins and plus 79.


Total:  2966.


Passed 3000 spins.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 12:03:37 PM
Split 25#26 for 179 spins. Plus 167.


Total: 3133.



Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 12:15:37 PM
Still some splits to go this is 26#27 for 47 spins. Plus 55.


Total: 3188.



Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 12:28:09 PM
Split 25#28 for 48 spins, plus 86.


Total: 3274.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 12:38:22 PM
Split 26#29 for 37 spins. Plus 52.




Total: 3326.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 01:33:32 PM
Split  27#30 was a sleeper drown to 600 minus. Decide to raise a bit more on a hit trying to recover if hit three times the next 100.


Total  3565.


Lost connection a few times had to play it to end manual.






Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 01:39:09 PM
Split  28#29 one spin. Forgot to reset to 0.01 the spin was 0.1. Plus  170.


Total. 3755





Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 01:45:42 PM
Split 29#30 at 17 spins. plus 36.


Total: 3791.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 02:34:44 PM
The split  28#31 was a longer run, had to connection problem do it manual then stakes become higher.


232 spins and plus 101. Did one or two bettings wrong.


Total: 3892.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 02:45:24 PM
Split 29#32 running 43 spins. Plus 39.


Total: 3931.


Passed 4000 spins.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 31, 2012, 03:10:51 PM
Ralph

I'm running the bot on the 7 computer seeking a 1#4.  I'm almost at 9,000 spins and down several hundred play pennies.

How long should I let it run?

Sam
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 03:28:27 PM
Spin  30#33 at  168 spins. plus  295. A bit hard run up and down and several chips on stake.


Total: 4226.




5 splits left, hopfully no bust at the last.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 03:30:51 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 31, 2012, 03:10:51 PM
Ralph

I'm running the bot on the 7 computer seeking a 1#4.  I'm almost at 9,000 spins and down several hundred play pennies.

How long should I let it run?

Sam


Sam!


I explore still and do not really know. Have never been at 9000 spins, but severeal times 600-800 down, and up to now could come on track.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 31, 2012, 03:35:31 PM
Well, it's play money so I'll let 'er run!
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 03:40:46 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 31, 2012, 03:35:31 PM
Well, it's play money so I'll let 'er run!


Yes stretch the limit and you will see!


I have just  a few splits left, and it is still possible I  end up witha loss or about 5000 plus.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 03:44:17 PM
The split 31#32 running 21 spins. plus 30.


Total: 4256
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 03:50:24 PM
Split  32#33 for 15 spins. Plus 40.




Total: 4296



Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 04:02:07 PM
The split 31#34 run for 53 spins. 58 plus.




Total: 4354.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 04:51:24 PM
Split  32#35  I lost contact with server, the number of spins is the difference in the screenshots.  Did some manual. Plus 183.




Total 4537.





Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 05:06:15 PM
Split 33#36 for 41 spins. Plus 120.   Forgot to reset the bettings started using 0.1 chip, and then it was down so I had to fullfill using the same value. Risky at the end of the splits!!!.


Total: 4567
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 05:19:25 PM
The split next to the last. 34#35 running  47 spins. Plus 49.


Total: 4706.


Now I will play the last split, which if I am unlucky can  wipe all out.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 05:28:20 PM
The last split reach the minimum win target. 35#36 at  22 spins.


Total and finally: 4736 cents. Total 4649 spins. About a unit a spin.


I have not count and do not exactly know how many splits there are, but I think around 60.  So the number of played splits is the number of winning sessions in a row.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Bally6354 on December 31, 2012, 05:46:48 PM
Bravo Ralph!  :applause:

Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 31, 2012, 07:01:05 PM
UPDATE:  I am now over 10,000 spins seeking a 1/4 split win.  I am down almost 1,000 units.

I am going to let this run for a while long as it proves something I've said over and over:  Just because a thing falls behind doesn't mean it has to catch up in our lifetime.  This is another gambler's fallacy I verified long ago with the Super Roulette bot.

This is where bots are good; they tell you things you could never sit and learn in real time manually.

Sam
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 07:18:09 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 31, 2012, 07:01:05 PM
UPDATE:  I am now over 10,000 spins seeking a 1/4 split win.  I am down almost 1,000 units.

I am going to let this run for a while long as it proves something I've said over and over:  Just because a thing falls behind doesn't mean it has to catch up in our lifetime.  This is another gambler's fallacy I verified long ago with the Super Roulette bot.

This is where bots are good; they tell you things you could never sit and learn in real time manually.

Sam

I have not got 10000 spins in asession, I have been down 1000 units. If the stakes are so you can recover in three hits, it may recover, otherwise it may take forever.

I have had a D'Alembert running for weeks.  It may come back, but it may also be esier to try to recover in some other sessions.

Nothing should suprise in this game!!
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 31, 2012, 07:51:54 PM
Here is a screen shot.  The bot seems to stop counting at 1085 as it has been at that count for hours.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 09:06:28 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 31, 2012, 07:51:54 PM
Here is a screen shot.  The bot seems to stop counting at 1085 as it has been at that count for hours.




Sam!


The bot can not read any balance over 100.00 Euro.




Ok I saw it is the spincount, I will have a look at that. <it should be able to count higher.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on December 31, 2012, 09:13:47 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 31, 2012, 07:51:54 PM
Here is a screen shot.  The bot seems to stop counting at 1085 as it has been at that count for hours.


As I can see it should count, but the textfield may be to narrow, so you see just the first 4 figures and you may have more, which is hidden due to the size of the textfield.
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: TwoCatSam on January 01, 2013, 02:52:12 PM
OK, I let the thing cool off a bit and started over.  The 1#4 split made .46 in 250 spins.

How is that possible?  The bot runs 10,000+ spins and nothing and then only 250.

Sam
Title: Re: Trying all possible splits in order from 0#1 to 35#36
Post by: Ralph on January 01, 2013, 03:16:55 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 01, 2013, 02:52:12 PM
OK, I let the thing cool off a bit and started over.  The 1#4 split made .46 in 250 spins.

How is that possible?  The bot runs 10,000+ spins and nothing and then only 250.

Sam


I think you know the answer!  In this game everything can happen more often than we think. For example a new to the game use to think martingale is a winner. Six red in a row is soo rare.  The fact is I have probably just a few times seen 150 spins without it.


10000 spins without a win is possible, you need for long time just average hit rate, and the HE takes over there the fluctations even out.


With a bot you do so many more spins, so the rare cases will come.   The question of stop loss, I think is the harder part, to low, you lose in cases you could win, to high the bankroll can be in serious danger in the rare cases.


Even if an event is 1 to a million, we will see it, we do a  million spins faster than we think we do.