"I guess I need to write a thread for the fantastic opportunities and exactly how to attack the casino when these opportunities rise up."


- Now that is a very good idea and looking forward to what you have to comprehensively list!

@Ignatus


I believe a Dr Neumann ( or similar) prepared a roulette system for such a pattern phenomena - saw this about 10 years ago. You may be able to access some comment or files. At the time I did not proceed with his approach. Hope this assist your research.

Wiesbaden Dec15 2012 T#3


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At the risk of sounding even more tedious please refer to my Guru, Maharishi Professor Nassim Taleb, for his further extensive comments and illustrations on Pareto. Like the Golden Mean, The Pareto Principle seems to be one of Nature's Rules, and yes, reaches far into human experience, further shattering the complacency of concrete linear thinkers; hopefully, anyway.


In my favourite Chaos book, Deep Simplicity, it is demonstrated  there really is a point to living just on the edge of Chaos, and oddly Pareto even features there.



On that basis some 40 Forum Members may be the active minority, and the 'tipping point' for conversion to 'Seeing the Pipe Dream' realised may be a modest 10%, say 19 active visionaries, who can demonstrate to the remainder that yes, there is a way forward. Keep a candle in the window.


The Force is with you, Esoito!  Onward to Step 2!

This is a strong result within 14 spins, and as you state, Zero and neighbours would be a smart bet, subject to review, spin by spin.


Conducting some statistical studies on live spin data, to see the characteristics of this type of bet formation, from the point of signal strength.


Cluster theory often demonstrates a binding force between groups of (say) nine numbers on the wheel.


When the force is strong there are betting opportunities for emerging  clumps of warm to hot numbers from (say) 20 spins onward, but most definitely from 37 spins on.

@JL
You are being a little hard on humanity. Please refer the Pareto Rule which is the infamous but ubiquitous 80:20 ratio which finds its way into roulette as well.

It may be helpful to just bullet point some of the key principles already outlined ( credit VLS)

   
• 37 spin cycles ( where there are 37 numbers on the wheel)
• outcomes will most often demonstrate a 'loaded' area of the wheel (or table)
• we emphasise short term cycles in roulette as it is in these we find imbalance to help us
• short cycle may thus indicate a particular column, or dozen or wheel zone or table area
• short cycle may be 3,7,9,12,18,24,37 spins plus duration
• avoid betting wheel zones that have no hits in a cycle of 37 spins(or fewer depending on your focus)
• instead bet within wheel zones or wheel neighbours of 'loaded' areas'
• filter out sleep zones and focus on energy zones
• look at 37 spin cycles result outcomes to see outcome pattern distributions
• get a feel for the spread of characteristics of these patterns
• then study the process of the outcome forming spin by spin and dtermine where are the trigger points, the critical phases
• tap into where the loaded zone is forming, starting to clump
• remember our emphasis on the short cycle nature of roulette to benefit the player
• observe the formation zones, where a 3 number zone with a few gaps around it can form into a four number zone and then into a five
• clearly those gaps may be our targets and we can form a suitable trap bet on the table to catch them
• larger clump zones form from small beginnings
• note triggers and filters as defined by VLS
• filter out the dead areas ( yet to awaken) and focus on the energised (awakening areas)
• note 'awakening' - it is an active process underway which you witness but also can inter-act with
• the fertile areas and energies activate warm numbers which can be very dynamic and prolific, and these can become ht in short, medium and longer terms ( say 100 spins plus)
• be aware that in longer cycles of play ( say 50 spins plus) that hot numbers can have sleepers adjacent and vice versa
• review progress spin by spin beyond 37 spins
• this can be say 38,39,40 spins, but also a moving fixed parameter window of 37 spins
• our emphasis for search criterion is 'short term imbalance'
• study what is formed in the 37 spin cycles
• study how and where these clumps form - how this involves 'direction', 'signal strength', and study the characteristics of the 'moving condition'.

The recent thread that developed from an earlier post by Juiced91 (Bob the Old Fogey)  and expert comments by Vic and others that ensued, deserves to have its own space because this is a very fertile area of research and study with multiple strike opportunities and suggests there may be characteristics here that make this a smart bet.

@Clumping Theory , ie sub set of Cluster Theory

It is fascinating and very rewarding that some excellent principles have arisen from this thread, and yes I really should thank Juiced91 as well as Vic.

The desire to make a program for long term overview analysis or predictive value in roulette is a red herring here and Gizmo is probably right to suggest the programmer never quit his day job. What is needed is a signal to note temporary imbalances in the very short term beyond a certain level to trigger action. These can be dozens, columns, EC outcomes and wheel and table outcomes.

Again and again we see in roulette the need to deal with the short cycles and temporary skews that can offer easy access and short term profit. Note the recent mention of Holloway playing all three EC positions when triggered.

My thesis is that short cycle gains can be strung together, like pearls on a thread, so as to link islets of opportunity into a consistent winning strategy. There may be clusters of player action, then significant pauses, just as with cycles of outcome data.

Vic has provided us with so many leads here.

The dominant hemisphere and the emergence within that of a seed clumping effect leading to a larger and larger formation as a small cluster, with incremental growth accessed for us see by use of triggers and filters.

Now the short term imbalance can be measured and can be visualised through a program set to monitor the accretion (like grains of sand becoming attached to an underwater magnet) spin by spin. If you can imagine this, and in colour ( for coding), then you can perhaps build a model and test these short cycles within larger cycles, spiraling perhaps in cycles of 37 or less or more.

Given that you can model this, and test repeatedly through live result play data, initially in small samples, then later expanding, you can observe the 'clumping' characteristics, and possibly develop a suitable bet to take advantage of this ongoing phenomenon.

This could be a prototype for formation of a new bet type; one that is interactive and responsive to short cycles, and which consists of a series of short series coups linked together in the formation and eventual decay of a cluster of action energy.

My suggestion would be for the bet overview to consist of three coups with the opportunity to expand and extend if the cluster formation warranted the attention.

Observation is now required on samples using a trial and error methodology.

Will report soon.  XXVV

Coming out of this is Clumping Theory.

I want to thank Vic for drawing our attention to this. The discussion on the development of the clumping  and then the identification of the target clump ( lets call it cluster it's a bit prettier) through triggers and then filters is a fantastic zone of interest for me. Then combining that work with the cycles of 37 spins,or more or less, on a spin by spin review, reveals treasure I am certain.


Outstanding.

Vic


You have stated a wonderful and very helpful principle in the clustering of 37 spin data. Your practical insight into taking advantage of the short term groupings is fantastic and true. The cycles can be extended more than many might realize. Based on massive live spin analysis, I prefer to use individual inside numbers ( with a trap net support) because that can give higher returns, and maybe more efficient, smarter bets. But that can be discussed later.


To serve an apprenticeship for 25 years is no bad thing if the outcomes can change your world.

This is a very interesting and challenging thread - potentially.


There has even been some debate over just what is meant by the title*. Surely it is one of the toughest and most pivotal of all quests in roulette and the author of the thread title I am sure knew exactly what he was doing - so I do disagree with the remark from Sqzbox (lol).


Ironically, the term 'consistent' itself implies in logic a lack of contradiction and thus an establishment  of harmony, not one of division, ambiguity and confusion.


*is this the title of the thread where the question is asked, or the title of this thread requesting the bets to be listed?  lol.


Perhaps the author of the thread in which we are now writing may have intended a slight tongue-in -cheek quality to the title. It seems so simple, so innocent, to request further detail, once a voter has taken the side of the proposition 'yes' " - does a consistent flat bet already exist?


Just list them here then, says our host, those bets that could transform your world and potentially be worth a fortune. Lets have them then!  Come on! There must be at least 15 of them or more.....


Wait a moment. I don't think that those who voted "yes" are naive optimists, or gullible, easily persuaded victims of fraud,  or secretive agents of dark forces of a new world order, or just selfish individuals. They are simply reserving their right to retain the privacy and the value of their work.


Parallel with this is the spirit of working together in this Forum for a collective greater good. Now this is another matter. Given the true spirit of that being accepted, then it is likely that individuals will contribute  some research and some key principles and shape them in such a way as to help us all.


It is said the teacher learns most in any class, so in shaping and forming and ordering our thoughts, then progress can be made in more effective, more 'efficient' communication, working toward the goal of success in roulette.

Yes, yes, yes..... well ( with respect) we are awaiting your next step, Sqzbx.

...."can we find efficiencies from the Ecart?.....


Yes.

I voted yes, but it was a conditional yes.


The conditions are that the principles of accurate timing, smart bet selection, and super cool money management are applied at all times by the player in short cycle sequences, to enable an extremely efficient performance to sustain an average return ( say+5%) on investment sufficient to sustain compound growth of free money utilised exclusively for this purpose.