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albertojonas

To clarify what i am sugesting. This is how i get the string of wins and losses, a W L registry. I always compare present spin with the 10th last.
example:

2   
2   
1   
1   
2   
1   
1   
1   
2   
2   
1   L
1   L
2   L
2   L
2   W
2   L
2   L
2   L
2   W
1   L
1   W
1   W
2   W
1   L
1   L
2   W
2   W
2   W
2   W
2   L
1   W
2   L
1   L
1   W
1   W
2   W
1   L
2   W
2   W
2   W
2   L

albertojonas

and this is what i observe:

1   -   1   W      
2   -   2   L      
3   -   2   W      
4   -   1   L      
5   -   1   L      
6   -   2   L      
7   -   2   W      
8   -   1   W      
9   -   1   W      
10   -   1   W      
11   -   2   L      
12   -   1   L      
13   -   2   W      
14   -   2   L      
15   -   2   L      
16   -   1   L      
17   -   2   W      
18   -   2   L      
19   -   2   L      
20   -   2   L      
21   -   1   L      
22   -   2   L      
23   -   1   L      
24   -   2   W      
25   -   2   W      
26   -   1   W      
27   -   2   W      
28   -   2   W      
29   -   1   L      
30   -   2   W      
31   -   1   W      
32   -   1   L      
33   -   1   W      
34   -   2   W      
35   -   2   W      
36   -   1   W      
37   -   2   W      
38   -   1   L      
39   -   1   W      
40   -   2   W      
41   -   1   W      
42   -   1   W      
43   -   1   W      
44   -   2   W      
45   -   2   W      
46   -   1   W   window of 23 spins +3,54 ecart   bet 1 unit on loss
47   -   1   L      +1
48   -   1   W      
49   -   1   W   window of 26 spins +3,53 ecart   bet 1 unit on loss
50   -   2   W   window of 26 spins +3,53 ecart + window of 27 spins 3,66 ecart   -1 / bet 2 units on L
51   -   1   W   window of 26,27,28,29 spins with ecarts 3,53 | 3,66 | 3,78 | 3,53   -2 (-3 total) | bet 4 units on L
52   -   2   L   window of 29 spins +3,53 ecart   +4 (+1 total) | bet 1 unit on L
53   -   2   L      +1 (+2 total)
54   -   1   L      
55   -   2   W      
56   -   1   W      
57   -   1   W      
58   -   1   W   windows 35, 36, 37, 38 with exact same scenario as above ...   
59   -   1   W      
60   -   2   W      
61   -   2   L      
62   -   1   L      
63   -   1   L      
64   -   1   W      
65   -   2   W      

tdx

Might also apply to baccarat as player and banker as opposed to even chance roulette......assuming you can come up with a winning method.

Sputnik

Quote from: albertojonas on April 14, 2015, 10:55:49 PM
To clarify what i am sugesting. This is how i get the string of wins and losses, a W L registry. I always compare present spin with the 10th last.
example:

2   
2   
1   
1   
2   
1   
1   
1   
2   
2   
1   L
1   L
2   L
2   L
2   W
2   L
2   L
2   L
2   W
1   L
1   W
1   W
2   W
1   L
1   L
2   W
2   W
2   W
2   W
2   L
1   W
2   L
1   L
1   W
1   W
2   W
1   L
2   W
2   W
2   W
2   L

I don't understand why you bet same after 10 random events - it should be different.

"Regression toward the mean simply says that, following an extreme random event, the next random event is likely to be less extreme. In no sense does the future event "compensate for" or "even out" the previous event, though this is assumed in the gambler's fallacy (and variant law of averages). Similarly, the law of large numbers states that in the long term, the average will tend towards the expected value, but makes no statement about individual trials. For example, following a run of 10 heads on a flip of a fair coin (a rare, extreme event), regression to the mean states that the next run of heads will likely be less than 10, while the law of large numbers states that in the long term, this event will likely average out, and the average fraction of heads will tend to 1/2. By contrast, the gambler's fallacy incorrectly assumes that the coin is now "due" for a run of tails, to balance out."

ozon

Hello Sputnik. If we assume that 10 events  is the extreme  that we can assume that the mild progression like this
112233445566....    stop  lose  210 units     Profit  target  1 unit
after 10  same events for a trigger,  using next 10  bets  window , bring us a profit.


albertojonas

https://www.random.org/integers/?num=5000&min=1&max=2&col=1&base=10&format=plain&rnd=date.2015-04-15
---
spin 462 bet W
+1
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spin 963 bet w
-9
+7
-3
+5
+1
---
spin 972 bet w
+1
---
spin 3030 bet w
-1
+2
---
spin 4515 bet w
-1
-3
+7
+1
---
spin 4521 bet w
+1
---
spin 4968 bet w
-1
+2
---
+10

RouletteFan

hey alberto
can explain again the all process so i can make my oown test
thank
you wait ecart 3.5 to began to gamble

how you determine the cart with random number
you look 10 by 10?
do you make any progression or al the results are flat bet ?

RouletteFan

explain me how you play this one

1   -   1   W     
2   -   2   L     
3   -   2   W     
4   -   1   L     
5   -   1   L     
6   -   2   L     
7   -   2   W     
8   -   1   W     
9   -   1   W     
10   -   1   W     
11   -   2   L     
12   -   1   L     
13   -   2   W     
14   -   2   L     
15   -   2   L     
16   -   1   L     
17   -   2   W     
18   -   2   L     
19   -   2   L     
20   -   2   L     
21   -   1   L     
22   -   2   L     
23   -   1   L     
24   -   2   W     
25   -   2   W     
26   -   1   W     
27   -   2   W     
28   -   2   W     
29   -   1   L     
30   -   2   W     
31   -   1   W     
32   -   1   L     
33   -   1   W     
34   -   2   W     
35   -   2   W     
36   -   1   W     
37   -   2   W     
38   -   1   L     
39   -   1   W     
40   -   2   W     
41   -   1   W     
42   -   1   W     
43   -   1   W     
44   -   2   W     
45   -   2   W     
46   -   1   W   window of 23 spins +3,54 ecart   bet 1 unit on loss    HOW YOU FOUND 3.54   what is the trigger to began to gamble at spin 47?
47   -   1   L      +1

albertojonas

23 spins
20 wins
3 losses

20-3/sqrt23 <=> 17/4.79583 = 3.5447

As Win is the overreprsented event and Loss the underrepreseted.

albertojonas

Comparing 10vs10 is just a way of gettin a wl string. it works like an ec. And when you seek strong devitation as a trigger, 3 are not enough RB EO HL. this way you can speculate on the win/loss registry of as many ec's you want, making betting more frequent

Rolex-Watch

Quote from: Sputnik on April 15, 2015, 06:03:53 PM
"Regression toward the mean simply says that, following an extreme random event, the next random event is likely to be less extreme. In no sense does the future event "compensate for" or "even out" the previous event, though this is assumed in the gambler's fallacy (and variant law of averages). Similarly, the law of large numbers states that in the long term, the average will tend towards the expected value, but makes no statement about individual trials. For example, following a run of 10 heads on a flip of a fair coin (a rare, extreme event), regression to the mean states that the next run of heads will likely be less than 10, while the law of large numbers states that in the long term, this event will likely average out, and the average fraction of heads will tend to 1/2. By contrast, the gambler's fallacy incorrectly assumes that the coin is now "due" for a run of tails, to balance out."
Well stated.  I was discussing this with sqzbox earlier, soon afterwards I was walking past a Baccarat table and noticed an 8 Player streak, a rare / extreme event I would conclude, this was followed by a few chops, then a 16 P streak,

(only took me 20 mins to type that sentence due to lockups, hey Vic if you produce great software, why is the back engine of this site such a bag of sh1te?)

albertojonas

Quote from: Rolex-Watch on April 17, 2015, 09:14:09 AM
Well stated.  I was discussing this with sqzbox earlier, soon afterwards I was walking past a Baccarat table and noticed an 8 Player streak, a rare / extreme event I would conclude, this was followed by a few chops, then a 16 P streak,

(only took me 20 mins to type that sentence due to lockups, hey Vic if you produce great software, why is the back engine of this site such a bag of sh1te?)

Yes. And after those 16P streak, there were a few B's for sure, not another 16p streak for sure. And from those B's we are trying to take profit. =)