I have cut'n'pasted the following:
Units needed: 8
Numbers played: 20
Minimum profit: 1 unit
Maximum profit: 10 units
1 unit on 0-1-2-3 (corner, pays 1 unit profit)
2 units on 31-32-33-34-35-36 (double street, pays 4 units profit)
1 unit on each of the following 5 splits: 8-11, 13-14, 15-18, 17-20, 27-30 (each split gives profit of 10 units)
See how ingeniously chaotic this bet selection is, both on the table, but much more importantly on the (European) wheel.
It favors the Tiers a bit but is nonetheless very well balanced.
The point here is to be chaotic and not evenly distributed.
If you want even distribution just bet Red or Black.
This system is better played with negative type of progression.
[The source: http://www.roulette30.com/p/kavouras-bet.html (//http://)]
I wouldn't hold your breath over the last line on the home page: MORE TO COME
I've been patiently waiting over 2 years and it hasn't come yet!! (Another "Gunna"...I'm gunna do this; gunna do that...The world is full of 'em!!)
I have used it, and found a positive progession is working well. 1 up on a win. The winnings are very often in a row. It cover a bit much of the table, which is a cost during a losing streak, so I would not use negative progressions. One up on just the winning chip is to consider as well.
1 unit on 0-1-2-3 (corner, pays 1 unit profit)
2 units on 31-32-33-34-35-36 (double street, pays 4 units profit)
1 unit on each of the following 5 splits: 8-11, 13-14, 15-18, 17-20, 27-30 (each split gives profit of 10 units)
It means, we can play this trick, in a variety of ways. We are basically covering 20 numbers with different bets.
Hello,
Thank you Esoito for bringing this up.
KingsRoulette (http://betselection.cc/profile/kingsroulette/) is correct. The underlying idea (one of the underlying ideas anyway) is covering 20 numbers with different bets
I used this for a short time as well and like Ralph used a +1 progression on a win. Good results but it was costly at times when the numbers went against me.
It s normal to have a lot of wins when you bet 20 numbers.
:)
Quote from: Razor on March 18, 2013, 09:47:02 PM
It s normal to have a lot of wins when you bet 20 numbers.
:)
And normal to lose at rapid rate when it goes against, we never win enough on our streaks.
"""And normal to lose at rapid rate when it goes against, we never win enough on our streaks."""
Exactly.
This bet selection is no better than any other.
Wheel doesn t know the order of the pockets.
So if the bet is on pockets that are next to each other, or with 1 gap or with 2-3-4-5etc gaps or mixed, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.
It s all about how many pockets you cover and what the(unfair) payment on a win is...and this doesn t change.
Quote from: Razor on March 19, 2013, 09:23:01 AM
"""And normal to lose at rapid rate when it goes against, we never win enough on our streaks."""
Exactly.
This bet selection is no better than any other.
Wheel doesn t know the order of the pockets.
So if the bet is on pockets that are next to each other, or with 1 gap or with 2-3-4-5etc gaps or mixed, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.
It s all about how many pockets you cover and what the(unfair) payment on a win is...and this doesn t change.
Both works or not. Many methods are "good" because they are so even distributed on the wheel, other because they are a sector.
We know sectors on the wheel behave the same as the occur on the table.
In order to say that something is working, it mustn t have the part "sometimes it doesn t work"
If it s working it can t lose...
If it can lose, then it s not working.
Quote from: Razor on March 19, 2013, 11:24:25 AM
In order to say that something is working, it mustn t have the part "sometimes it doesn t work"
If it s working it can t lose...
If it can lose, then it s not working.
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All system lose, still there is gamblers who keep regular profits ...
There is no such thing that a system can not lose ...
Quote from: Sputnik on March 19, 2013, 11:26:56 AM
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All system lose, still there is gamblers who keep regular profits ...
There is no such thing that a system can not lose ...
If anything which can not lose could be found, the casino games would adopt changing the rules. It is game not free money.
I agree with Ralph.
""" still there is gamblers who keep regular profits ..."""
I don t agree
Quote from: Razor on March 19, 2013, 01:26:08 PM
I agree with Ralph.
""" still there is gamblers who keep regular profits ..."""
I don t agree
Its fine by me :zzz:
:thumbsup:
System + player :-X :-X :-X
Playing with a extremely simple progression I was able to produce the attached results from 360,000 real spins from Weisbaden.
The biggest drawdown was 1078.
Well that's a Smurfy blue chart there, pb. Are you going to share this progression? Please do!
Sam
Quote from: pb65 on January 11, 2014, 02:31:21 PM
The biggest drawdown was 1078.
Nice job mate. one point though, the biggest drawdown should always be calculated by your biggest drop from peak. Seeign the graph, i think it is around 2500units.
But very nice, as Sam says, please share the bet selection and progression if you can.
Yes you are right Pockets, it is much bigger than the excel figures show, excel only shows the negative. The biggest drawdown is around 2500.
The progression is just 1 2 3 4 etc with a cap set at whatever you like. You could also use a limited Marti or any other negative progression you want. I found a cap of 5 to be the best one. Then you need to bet in sets of whatever you find appropriate and if your BR is not increased after the set number of spins you apply the next step of the progression until you hit the ceiling then either keep betting the ceiling or revert back to 1. By setting your ceiling low your bet does not get very high. In this case 40U.
This is a grind, not a get rich quick bet. Katouras said that in his interviews, he said the problem with most players is they are looking for easy money and lose because they are in too much of a hurry. Winning requires work, losers don't like to have to work to win.
Winning requires work, losers don't like to have to work to win.
Fell right off my chair!! I've worked quite hard and lost. My wife always asks, "Isn't there an easier way to lose money?"
A new definition of insanity: "The biggest drawdown is around 2500."
Yes, yes. I know. Unit sizes are variable but even so...! Sam's wife is very astute.