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Hey Friends,
    Since my first stint of trying roulette online to my casino trips, there has been occasions where I made huge bets on 1 number to EC bets and also in baccarat. No, I was not playing Martingale. It was a hybrid progression that pushed in little tricky times of below average hits, betting least in the worst of times and pushing bets when it appears to be doing great. Many times, it rose to the table limits and it was pretty exciting in a real casino. I have once won max pay allowed on a single number and win was huge. I did it many times on dozens and EC bets too. Have you ever done this?
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Re: Ever tried betting till table limits specially if it is huge?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2021, 02:57:10 pm »
Good thoughts Alb

Yes, I always have my eye on the table limits, or Tmax. IMO one of main reasons cas(most) have such low tmax is to prevent a pospro player from scalping them, and potentially get scalped several times in close proximity.  No limit on the upside could be dangerous to the casino, unlikely, though still a small probability.
Especially the smaller family-owned casinos that are content to net 2-5 mil per annum.

I think pospro players should always design their progression to hit exactly @ tmax, or at least have that potential.
Then start reducing (never stand still), or even regress to base unit. Im not suggesting to never take profit--just suggesting we should be prepared should that rare streak present.

I do not believe casinos design tmax mainly in fear of the aggressive negpro(steep marty) player. Because the steep-marty negpro player is mostly receiving their own money back on that win. 

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Re: Ever tried betting till table limits specially if it is huge?
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2021, 04:19:49 am »
Dear KungFuBac,
              It is doable to win till max limits but still a strategy that could get you there is not easy. It was pretty exciting to do so on a single number of roulette in a long haul play of about 10 hours with the assistance of a friend. I used to play with a friend in real casinos for inside bets with my favorite method FMoDR ( It meant the finest method to defeat roulette, my own innovation, lol)wherein I used to bet the best doing numbers in a cycle of 185 spins. I mesmerized my friends and entire casino with huge winnings and it was pretty exciting too. The casino Palms Goa where I was playing, I was only one to get 16 withdrawals in 3 days of play.
          A well designed hybrid progression with safeguards for worst times (if they creep in) could achieve that many times.
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Re: Ever tried betting till table limits specially if it is huge?
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2021, 04:32:36 pm »
Hi Alb

re:"...FMoDR ( It meant the finest method to defeat roulette..."

Do you have a link to this FMoDR on the forum??

Your hitting of Tlimits above is impressive.

I think roulette does indeed lend itself to (lightening in a bottle) type hit because of the greater than even payouts (especially the 35-1, e.g., 1x35x35).

Though IMO tagging an even-chance wager say seven times spread across several different streaks  may prove more probable and doable. Just my quick thoughts as I haven't spent much time and research on this type of betting regime. 

If i did pursue this type of approach I would be in favor of starting a compound with the largest compound for the first leg. Then place a bet on depreciating compound % type wagers so the higher wagers and latter legs are approaching and on and  even-chance bet. For example, lets say a person placed a 1unit wager on the "hottest" number so far, lets say "0" in roulette and after 25 attempts it hits, so we now a have 10-1 compound on the first leg (35-24), keep 1, then   1000% compound or $10unit on the next leg, then wager on maybe a 2-1odds wager, and the final legs at 1-1,...etc.
Though we do see repeating numbers hit three times consec quite frequently(1x35x35).

Another approach is to utilize an even-chance wager to "feed" the higher payout wagers attempts continuously, so we are not depleting our Buyin on the higher-edge risky wagers. I do this sometimes in Bac.

I don't typically play like the above examples and not advocating such, just pondering the potential.

*I once saw a friend at a craps table wager a green on boxcars(12), it hits and he parlays(30-1), then parlays again($25x30, goes to 775, x30=23250), and all down.  The stickman realized after the second parlay they were well above table max allowed for bonus bet payouts and questioned if they should go ahead and payout. Boxman asks did he hear player say full press, stick man and several players said yes, boxman calls upstairs, and in about 15 seconds turns around and says "pay the man". This player mostly plays texas holdem ,seldom ever played craps, and probably didn't even know all the rules--just right place right time.


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Re: Ever tried betting till table limits specially if it is huge?
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2021, 07:03:46 am »
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It was on earlier forum of Victor which went to scammer jailbird Steve who could not face my popularity and removed my entire expert section. FMoDR was based upon my initial observation of what frustrates people in casino. I found that hot numbers could be rewarding as people usually chase slow hitting numbers considering them due. I made an analysis of all 37 numbers of European Roulette through a basic tracker and found that 1 to 5 numbers do great in the span of 5 cycles that is 185 spins and they may occur upto twice its expectancy easily. I created a basic safe MM for that and it was one of the my all time favorite bet. Although varying sizes of bets causes trouble in adjusting my bet on each number and was a big challenge to adjust. Variance was still there. I earned a lot with that but that wasn't conclusive either. Then I focused on money management side and found the real treasure there. Hot numbers shown there potential always but they are not the perfect way either. With a correct MM, even the worst could be beaten in the long run.

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            Compounding looks theoretically very promising. Lose least and earn Max but in real situations, guessing when you will get an opportunity to ride on your wins, is unrealistic. House edge ensures that either we get lesser wins than losses or they take away some portion of our wins or we are paid lesser than mathematical probability. Dreaming of 1 unit becoming 1000 with a dream compounding like reverse martingale etc. does not realistically work and even if they do, you will still be at loss. Further, the biggest evil of the game is variance that could goes as far as 15x from the break even point of any bet.

Any seasoned player would agree on them.
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