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#1681
I'm glad you liked it dear Sumit. There is a way to make it output each number on its own line.

When hovering your mouse over the separator box, you can see the hint:

Quote\n = new line. \t = tabulator.

So you only need to replace the comma by \n for the program to insert each number in a new line.

Enjoy!   :thumbsup:
#1682
Meta-selection / Production and Recovery
November 05, 2012, 02:21:25 AM

Production and Recovery is a two-layered strategy which many people use, even without realizing.

In the most purist mindset:

       
  • The production layer is the one making the units.
  • The recovery layer is the one that kicks-in when the production layer misses and its aim is to "patch" the balance to break even point.



This P&R combo can take many different forms, including combining VERY DIFFERENT approaches, that complement each other in the overall strategy.

Take for instance the combination:

Production: Last 5 lines.
Recovery: 36-unit parachute.

Last 5 lines is a flat bet covering 30 numbers with 5 chips. You can expect long sets of concatenated wins when the further-behind becomes a sleeper. It has a tendency to do that already.

The 36-unit parachute is a progression in risk. It has varied payout; at some levels netting more than +5.



If you may, a standard progression is also a P&R combo:

- First step of progression = Production. A hit on it nets/makes the units.

- All other steps = Recovery. The goal being to bring the balance back to even after missing production/first step.





There are many other combinations or schemes for Production and Recovey combos.

In this thread we can see several of them; perhaps one of them suits you.
#1683
Which online casino(s) have earned your personal choice?


Based on first-hand experience.

We want to know about the Good ones in your personal list  :thumbsup:  those which have delivered to you on time, and offer you the best playing conditions so you've recurred with them...


(the bad and the ugly can have their own dedicated threads!)
#1684
General Discussion / The trackers I owe
November 02, 2012, 05:34:49 AM
Fellows,

After the removal of the other forums there were some fine folks left with their trackers hanging.

Please feel free to contact me in order to ask for a release in here. Even if free, I owe them to you and I apologize. If you still need them I am still here to make it right.

Thanks.
#1685
"The best selection is the one that clumps the most: both in the positive, as well as the negative trams. "

Exploit the concentrations of hits, and never wager when seeing dispersion on your tracked bet.

Use bets as a part of a bigger strategy, activating and disabling them according to the CURRENT hit rate.

Always "dance the current tune" the game is playing, and place yourself in the right position to catch that hitting streak that makes you recoup faster or gets your game into big profit zone.
#1686
Regardless of the "long term" scheduled for them, those CURRENTLY "streaky" bet selections are the ones you should focus on in your strategy. Your work is to identify the "batches of success".

Having several of these clumping selections where positive and negative times are usually defined is KEY to making the best assessments:

- Bet for the continuation of good times.

- Disable it when in the middle of bad times.





Determining "Good" and "Bad" times is a no-brainer. You do it like this:

First you must know the cycle length of your selection. When dealing with determining current "clump effect", the considered cycle length matches the raw payout, since you yourself are working under such boundaries.

I.e. a straight-up cycle is 36 spins;  not 37 (European) or 38 (American) spins.

A double-street cycle is 6.
#1687
So now you are determined to use the lesser coverage ones, you must place their hits and misses it in a timeline, on which you will read the signals of possible upcoming concentration of hits, as well as clear current "dry runs", that are to be avoided at all times.
#1688
The reverse, plenty of covered numbers, tend to force the game towards the extremes to compensate too.

But the large numeric coverage ones aren't too kind on the units, so it's better to focus on the lesser ones.
#1689
Imagine an even chance bet selection that -just like any other- has scheduled a rate of 50/50 "in the long run", but in the short term has runs of 50 spins of dominance and 50 spins of barely showing (yes, that's the ultimate streaky one).

This 50/50 represents a balanced spot, but do notice the lesser numbers you cover, the more extreme things tend to be in regards to clumps.
#1690
They say all bet selections are equal... long term.

While it is true all bet selections are scheduled to even out "in the long run". Let's shift the focus to the short run, using bet selections as part of a STRATEGY, not sticking to them like a robot while they are losing the lot, only when they are presenting a good (measurable) strike rate.
#1691
Quote from: esoito on October 31, 2012, 04:29:50 AM
There's always something worth learning -- even if it's learning what NOT to do.


The most important part is learning without costing you a very HIGH-PRICED lesson at the actual gaming table.


Perhaps this is the most important part of testing. SAVING people money.
#1692
Quote from: albalaha on October 31, 2012, 03:57:50 AM
If we want to get something positive and constructive, joint and constructive efforts are required from various topic starters, testers and programmers.

Agreed.

Ideally, the cycle being: ways to bet are posted, methods are tested, conclusions are made.

One barrier I see is the amount of effort required to make proper tests. Manual testing is time-consuming, automated testing requires programming efforts, which either cost money or time to somebody, and since it involves costs the resulting program isn't likely to be given away to the general public (that's not the way it should be, but that's the way it is in real life. The case of someone hiring a programmer for giving the resulting program away are RARE... very rare).

Having said that, a way to solve this scenario is to have one main programmer creating and maintaining a framework, with several programmers creating tiny extensions/modules, consisting of only the pertinent parts to be test: namely only the extact code of the bet selection and/or the progression.

This way the main burden is centralized so the other programmers don't have to re-invent the wheel for things like data input/output, charts, optical number recognition, clicker, and the like. Focusing instead on the nitty-gritty of the method at hand.

This is what I aim to achieve with this site here. A centralized lab for testing, and ultimately betting via bots.

Would it succeed? Who knows. It's a paid project, funded by the subscriptions of this very site. It's still unclear whether or not would it have acceptance among the programming-able folks, but it should once the learning curve is taken. It's the difference between working with bare metal versus having an operative system.




Posters elaborating on their ideas, programmers relieved and focused on only working-out the very minimum of the posted bets and the users enjoying the conclusions.
#1693
Multiple locations / Re: Delayed parachute
October 29, 2012, 03:52:44 AM
Quote from: Wally Gator on October 29, 2012, 03:20:16 AM
I thought a loss at any level regresses to the next level, not back to the even chance.

The order from previous to next location is this:

PREVIOUS

Even chance.
Dozen/Column.
Double-street.
Quad/Corner.
Street.
Split.

NEXT

From previous (lower-paying) to next (higher-paying), we say we progress.

From higher-paying location to lower-paying, we say we regress.

Remember: The progression we are are talking about being "Progression in risk". The higher-paying location covers less numbers and hence the RISK rises/progresses.




Quote from: Wally Gator on October 29, 2012, 03:20:16 AM

Am I missing something here?  If we miss 3 spins and go back to the even chance level, how would we ever get to the splits level?

This is a *delayed* parachute, with a "conscious twist".

We're always hoping we wouldn't need to get to the splits level and all the bets resolve previous to it.





There are two things going at once: the unit size and the current location's payout.

You are positively mixing a progression in unit size with a progression in risk.

-Yes- The math is kinda fuzzy since it's not an straightforward progression; your unit size changes as well as your current bet location's payout.

In this scenario it's all about the bankroll balance and checking if the bet was a profit or a break even in order to stop/reset.
#1694
Multiple locations / Re: Delayed parachute
October 28, 2012, 11:30:13 PM
One last thing. You can reduce your betting unit, but you'll soon notice the higher units on the higher-paying locations during hits are the ones that make the best "upward spikes" for an exit point in the cycle  :nod:
#1695
Multiple locations / Re: Delayed parachute
October 28, 2012, 11:26:33 PM
The rationale of the delayed parachute:

If it goes poorly, you will be covering locations with more numbers, giving yourself a better chance to getting some hits and "fluctuating" until the tide turns so you can maximize the chances to "be there". i.e. bankroll preservation.

On the other hand, you will catch the good streaks naturally covering higher-paying locations to increase your chances of a recovery and a successful session-end or reset point.