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Title: Four phases
Post by: Dane on June 09, 2014, 05:42:33 PM
We need a pen and a piece of paper with 6x6 squares reserved for 1-36.
Upper line: 1-6. 2ND line: 7-12. Etc.. Simply fill in the squares as the numbers come.
I have learned the hard way that
SEVEN NUMBERS CAN [smiley]aes/sleep.png[/smiley] TOO LONG.
SO IF ONLY SEVEN NUMBERS ARE MISSING, WE END THE SESSION.

Certain patterns use to appear in a certain order.
In phase A we concentrate on DIAGONALS :whistle:
If any diagonal can be completed with the NEXT spin, be bet on it:
If 2 has come, we bet 7 (flat bet that is).
If 24 and 34 have come, we wager 29. Etc..

Phase B: If at least five NEXT to each other
ON THE HORIZONTAL OR VERTICAL LEVEL
may come with the NEXT spin, we´ll leave A
and bet on this pattern. Easy examples:
1, 2, 4, 5 have come. We bet 3.
6, 12, 18, 24 have come. We bet 30.

Phase C: When 2x4 squares may be filled in with the NEXT spin,
we only concentrate on this and bet on this.
Phase C ENDS as soon as the pattern is a reality. Examples:11 12
                                                                                       17 18
                                                                                       23 24
                                                                                       29 30
25 26 27 28
31 32 33 34.

Phase D: Have 3x3 squares been filled in? No? So it´s time for D.
If this pattern may come with the NEXT spin, be bet on it.
And after winning we end the session.
But we still remember to stop[smiley]aes/stop.png[/smiley]
if only SEVEN blank spaces are left.
                                                        Good luck!
                                                           Dane
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: Dane on July 13, 2014, 08:29:39 AM
DON´T HESITATE TO LOOK CLOSER  :)

Right after 90 sessions at home
with Spielbank Wiesbaden Permanenzen: 1022 units.
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: Wildcard on July 13, 2014, 05:52:37 PM
Dane, I love the way you think !

Furthermore, I absolutely enjoy that guys like you focus on simple rules, well explained, easy to follow AND CARE ENOUGH to give us reports and reminders of the possible profits.

Your results after 90 sessions are great !
Are you flat betting ? What is your unit size, if you don't mind telling (Feel free to impress me)

I am about to start testing another idea, but I will definitely keep this one on my pocket.

Keep up the good work, you deserve what you are getting.
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: esoito on July 13, 2014, 11:39:06 PM
"Keep up the good work, you deserve what you are getting."

Yes, Dane certainly does!
You beat me to giving him a well deserved pat-on-the-back.
:nod:
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: Dane on July 14, 2014, 07:57:47 AM
Thanks!
Flat betting, yes!
Our unit size ought to be in accordance with
what we can afford to lose. We should be prepared to lose more than just a few hundred units.
Later I present one short session. [smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley]
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: Dane on July 14, 2014, 11:35:40 AM

As promised I´ll present one short session
(from table 3,
24.04.2011, Spielbank Wiesbaden)
[smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley]
21
28
11
25..Phase A has begun. See DIAGONAL 25-32. Start betting 32
18..See diagonal 4-11-18 and add 4 to betting.
20
30..See diagonal 30-35 and add 35 to betting.
30
27
20
14
19
5...See diagonal 5-12 and add 12 to betting.
12..Hit! Leave 12.
26..Leave all wagered numbers and prepare yourself for a new phase.
      At first  you might think that it´s phase B, as at least five NEXT to each other might come with the NEXT spin.
      But 2X4 Spaces might be filled with the NEXT spin too. So PHASE C has begun. We start betting 22.
19
12
22..Hit! See 19-22 and 25-28. After ONE hit in phase C we leave 22. We  are prepared for phase D.
      Aiming for 3x3 filled Spaces.
32
28
13..Start betting 15.
14
25
33..Add 31 and 34 to betting.
30
20
14
34..Final hit! End of session.
[smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley]

     
   
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: Dane on July 15, 2014, 03:13:29 PM
In Greek Mythology SISYPHUS was condemned to an eternity
of rolling a rock uphill then watching it roull back again.
From time to time in test series we might similarly be going nowhere fast.
And in the end we might lose it all.
But it is interesting to see how far we can go [smiley]aes/smile.png[/smiley]

My test series continues.

Right after 119 sessions: 1017 units.
  -       -     129     -      : 1236    -   .
  -       -     133     -      : 1239    -   .
  -       -     139     -      : 1579    -   .
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: VLS on July 16, 2014, 02:28:30 AM
[smiley]skype/yes.gif[/smiley] Thanks for sharing this one Dane.
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: Dane on July 16, 2014, 06:25:21 AM
Quote from: VLS on July 16, 2014, 02:28:30 AM
[smiley]skype/yes.gif[/smiley] Thanks for sharing this one Dane.

Always glad to share!
And I am on vacation [smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley]
so I´m taking my time to test.
Right after 140 sessions: 1581 units.
  -       -    155     -       : 1183   -    .

A small math challenge:
How many spins (from area 1-36) should we expect per session?
Remember to stop when just seven blank spaces are left.

((35/36)^58) X 36 = 7.0259.
So one session ought to take approx. 58 spins.
Some of my longest sessions so far required approx. 80 spins.
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: TwoCatSam on April 02, 2015, 12:33:11 PM
Why no interest in this after around 7 months?
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: TwoCatSam on April 02, 2015, 03:10:49 PM
Has anyone figured out whether we use a 36 square matrix with blank spaces or are the number 1-36 filled in and we mark them as they come?

Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: sqzbox on April 03, 2015, 12:38:10 AM
I think I'd use blank and fill them in as they come. Makes it easier to see the un-hit numbers.

But I was wondering - is Dane still around? I see that there was a big down turn of around 400 units between games 140 and 155. I was wondering if he was still playing this, or perhaps had moved on.
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: TwoCatSam on April 03, 2015, 07:07:21 AM
Then would you explain the diagonals?
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: Bayes on April 03, 2015, 08:28:01 AM
Quote from: sqzbox on April 03, 2015, 12:38:10 AM
But I was wondering - is Dane still around?

Last post here was in December, but he does post at the Roulette30 forum more regularly.

Nice to see you here again, Sam. I thought you'd given up on Roulette.  ;)
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: sqzbox on April 03, 2015, 10:46:53 AM
Just work through his example in #5 and you'll get it.
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: TwoCatSam on April 03, 2015, 10:26:30 PM
Squeeze

I'll try as you said, but I don't think that will get me there.

Bayes

Thanks for the nice compliment.  I have not given up on roulette; went to Riverwind today and won around 400 units.

Attached is my other life, both the tulips and the dog.

Sam
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: sqzbox on April 03, 2015, 10:53:57 PM
Hey no worries Sam - I'll do a snip with some explanations for you.
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: sqzbox on April 03, 2015, 11:17:36 PM
Hope this is clear.
Well, I tried to insert an image rather than an attachment but couldn't figure out how to do it. See attachment.
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: TwoCatSam on April 04, 2015, 03:48:48 AM
OK, when a number comes, you place it in the box where it would be if you had written them in like:

1 2 3   4   5   6
7 8 9 10 11 12                 

So I could have a matrix with the numbers in and simply X them out as they come.  I see..

Thanks a ton.

Dane's ideas are good; he just doesn't explain well.

Sam
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: sqzbox on April 04, 2015, 09:44:31 AM
That's just the way I'd do it. For me I think I would see the spaces for the diagonals and 2x4 and so on more clearly if the squares are blank.  There's absolutely no mathematical reason why this should work, and I am dubious, especially given the large drawdown that Dane reported - and then disappeared! But as far as   a system for selection is concerned, it is as good as any and does at least force some structure on your play. That by itself is a good thing.
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: TwoCatSam on April 04, 2015, 01:45:27 PM
Mr. Box

That is his way.  He posts and goes away.  I think he is a concert pianist or some kind of pianist.  Maybe he plays downstairs in a whorehouse!!  "Don't shoot me; I'm just the piano player."  He'll be back as brash as ever.

His ideas do not make logical or mathematical sense, but I play his "XOXOX" a lot and it has a great track record--for me.  Some of his other things--not so good.

I like the one about the two becoming three on the carpet as I see that all the time.  Like 6 9 becoming 6 9 12 or 3 6 9. The 6-9 encourages the 3 or the 12 to come.  (That will shake a few trees!)

Thanks for your help.  I'll make me a chart and learn the thing.

Sam
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: horus on April 04, 2015, 02:23:25 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on April 04, 2015, 01:45:27 PM

I like the one about the two becoming three on the carpet as I see that all the time.  Like 6 9 becoming 6 9 12 or 3 6 9. The 6-9 encourages the 3 or the 12 to come.  (That will shake a few trees!)


Tesla did speak about the magnificence of the 3,6,9.

I look out for it when I am playing roulette.

If I see street 3 (7,8,9) go to street 6, (16,17,18) then I am on the streets 3,6,9 and keep riding them as long as they appear. Any of the two from three triggers me to bet.

Same for the splits 3/6, 9/12, 15/18.

It may be luck, maybe voodoo, but it has dug me out of a few holes in my time. [smiley]aes/beer.png[/smiley]

p.s. here is a days play.

-12 on the splits...
+33 on the streets...

Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: TwoCatSam on April 04, 2015, 04:23:07 PM
OK, there must be a distance.

If street 3 hits, how many spins max until one of the other two hit.  We all know they will eventually hit, but is it within three spins or six or 12 or what?

Sam
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: horus on April 04, 2015, 04:34:44 PM
Sam, I haven't really looked at Dane's work....so sorry for interrupting your thread. It's just when I saw the 3-6-9 mentioned, I thought I would chime in and say what I have noticed works for me quite a lot of times.

I was making some charts for something I was working on and I stumbled upon this 3-6-9 'voodoo' thing. I noticed they seemed to a hit a lot of times consecutively like getting stuck in a groove. So I don't look for any gaps/skips. If they are coming, I play them. I stop after the first loss and wait for another two to qualify.

That's my way....but I will take a look at Dane's ideas. Thanks.
Title: Re: Four phases
Post by: TwoCatSam on April 04, 2015, 10:30:15 PM
Sorry, horus, I can't get there from here.

If the 3 street hits, it could be twenty spins before the 6 or 9 hits.  We know it will hit sooner or later.

To be viable for me, it must read:  If 3 and 6 hit within 10 spins, bet th 3,6, and 9 until one hits.

I'll look into this.  I made a grid for Dane's "Four Phases", if anyone wants it.

Sam